Egypt

[kelpdiver 2]

Glitch

Really? Did they change the number of terms the POTUS can serve recently?

midterm elections do matter, especially when the GOP continues to look weak. The House is vulnerable. Though traditionally midterm elections do not favor the party in the White House.

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jclalor

Congress could very easily take up the issue of Egyptian military aid, but they would rather not get involved, it's easier too sling dirt at the President. There are times when the least of two evils are the only options, and continuing military aid seems to be the least of the two options at this time. An argument could also be made that the coup was a popular uprising, supported by the military, perhaps not a good one, but an argument none the less.

So perhaps jclalor is one of those paid social media participants we keep hearing about. We can count on him to defend the Administration no matter how stupid it sounds, be it the hilarious NSA is only collecting metadata story line to this defense of ignoring law when inconvenient.

The whole point of this law was to get the US out of the business of selectively supporting democracy or picking military coups when we liked getting rid of the previous rulers. If you really want to support that, the actions here are pretty clear.

Respect for America is lowered when we ignore our own law.

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kelpdiver

***Congress could very easily take up the issue of Egyptian military aid, but they would rather not get involved, it's easier too sling dirt at the President. There are times when the least of two evils are the only options, and continuing military aid seems to be the least of the two options at this time. An argument could also be made that the coup was a popular uprising, supported by the military, perhaps not a good one, but an argument none the less.

So perhaps jclalor is one of those paid social media participants we keep hearing about. We can count on him to defend the Administration no matter how stupid it sounds, be it the hilarious NSA is only collecting metadata story line to this defense of ignoring law when inconvenient.

The whole point of this law was to get the US out of the business of selectively supporting democracy or picking military coups when we liked getting rid of the previous rulers. If you really want to support that, the actions here are pretty clear.

Respect for America is lowered when we ignore our own law.

You mean we look bad when we take unilateral actions like Morsi?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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Kennedy

Side note: McCain and a few others are really saying some stupid shit.

McCain is currently demanding the aid be stopped.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/08/18/obama-john-mccain-egypt-cnn/2668685/

This makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than the administrations tap-dancing around the obvious fact there was a military coup.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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ryoder

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Side note: McCain and a few others are really saying some stupid shit.

McCain is currently demanding the aid be stopped.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/08/18/obama-john-mccain-egypt-cnn/2668685/

This makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than the administrations tap-dancing around the obvious fact there was a military coup.

But you can't have an incident free administration if you call it a Coup. You can't continue funding the Muslim Brotherhood if it's a Coup.

Don't you get that?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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[DanG 1]

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You can't continue funding the Muslim Brotherhood if it's a Coup.

Don't you get that?

The Muslim Brotherhood isn't getting the funding. The military which performed the coup would be getting it.

Don't you get that?

- Dan G

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DanG

The Muslim Brotherhood isn't getting the funding. The military which performed the coup would be getting it.

Don't you get that?

And there's another aspect involved: corporate welfare.

Much of the aid given to Egypt is in the form of a gift of military equipment built by US companies. Stop the aid and some US military companies don't get their share of the pie.

Obama's original decision to continue aid right after the parsed coup/not-a-coup was in all likelihood due to this. And it made sense to do the parsing and keep the money flowing to the US companies to give the equipment to Egypt right up to the point they started being jackasses and killing their own people.

I'm fairly certain this is why Obama is reconsidering the aid issue, but it was never -just- about it being a coup/not-a-coup.

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[jclalor 12]

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But you can't have an incident free administration if you call it a Coup. You can't continue funding the Muslim Brotherhood if it's a Coup.

Don't you get that

If you can't keep up, perhaps its better if you sit this one out.

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quade

***The Muslim Brotherhood isn't getting the funding. The military which performed the coup would be getting it.

Don't you get that?

And there's another aspect involved: corporate welfare.

Much of the aid given to Egypt is in the form of a gift of military equipment built by US companies. Stop the aid and some US military companies don't get their share of the pie.

Obama's original decision to continue aid right after the parsed coup/not-a-coup was in all likelihood due to this. And it made sense to do the parsing and keep the money flowing to the US companies to give the equipment to Egypt right up to the point they started being jackasses and killing their own people.

I'm fairly certain this is why Obama is reconsidering the aid issue, but it was never -just- about it being a coup/not-a-coup.

Corporate welfare shouldn't be the driving force for US foreign policy.

When fracking eliminates the need middle eastern oil we should cut off all aid and let them figure out their own destinies and whether they really want to be our friends.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Corporate welfare shouldn't be the driving force for US foreign policy.

Of course it shouldn't. That said, it frequently does.

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