Right wing acceptance of climate change

[kallend 2,180]

Gravitymaster

************Actually, you are a willing participant in one the biggest scams ever to befall college students or anyone else in this country. Worse than a Wall Street Banker.

Let alone its those of your ilk that have been responsible for creating destructive technologies that have resulted in the deaths of tens of millions.

So, climb down off that high horse.

Codswallop.

Engineering majors have the highest ROI of pretty much any investment their parents can possibly make on their behalf.

The scam is perpetrated by the banks that make the college loans, and the rules that the Congress the banks have bought has made on their behalf.

It's also perpetrated by the colleges who continue to raise the cost of an education because they know the Govt. will continue to make the loans and the students will continue to be saddled with massive debt. Nice little system you are a part of. Bernie Madoff would be proud.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-class-of-13-youve-been-scammed-2013-05-17

Big education gets a pass
Cause they support the Dems
and it is becoming one of the biggest gov/college scams of all time
And kallend is sucking that tit

Cause it benefits himWell, they have to come up with the money somehow so their professors can afford their own private planes and antique British Sports Cars.

Your ignorance IS curable.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

***************Actually, you are a willing participant in one the biggest scams ever to befall college students or anyone else in this country. Worse than a Wall Street Banker.

Let alone its those of your ilk that have been responsible for creating destructive technologies that have resulted in the deaths of tens of millions.

So, climb down off that high horse.

Codswallop.

Engineering majors have the highest ROI of pretty much any investment their parents can possibly make on their behalf.

The scam is perpetrated by the banks that make the college loans, and the rules that the Congress the banks have bought has made on their behalf.

It's also perpetrated by the colleges who continue to raise the cost of an education because they know the Govt. will continue to make the loans and the students will continue to be saddled with massive debt. Nice little system you are a part of. Bernie Madoff would be proud.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-class-of-13-youve-been-scammed-2013-05-17

Big education gets a pass
Cause they support the Dems
and it is becoming one of the biggest gov/college scams of all time
And kallend is sucking that tit

Cause it benefits himWell, they have to come up with the money somehow so their professors can afford their own private planes and antique British Sports Cars.

Your ignorance IS curable.

Not by you

Getting help from you would be the same as using aspirin to help with gout pain

But, since you seem more linked to the ignorance than the cure, your statement here is understandable

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,180]

rushmc

*********Actually, you are a willing participant in one the biggest scams ever to befall college students or anyone else in this country. Worse than a Wall Street Banker.

Let alone its those of your ilk that have been responsible for creating destructive technologies that have resulted in the deaths of tens of millions.

So, climb down off that high horse.

Codswallop.

Engineering majors have the highest ROI of pretty much any investment their parents can possibly make on their behalf.

The scam is perpetrated by the banks that make the college loans, and the rules that the Congress the banks have bought has made on their behalf.

It's also perpetrated by the colleges who continue to raise the cost of an education because they know the Govt. will continue to make the loans and the students will continue to be saddled with massive debt. Nice little system you are a part of. Bernie Madoff would be proud.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-class-of-13-youve-been-scammed-2013-05-17

Big education gets a pass
Cause they support the Dems
and it is becoming one of the biggest gov/college scams of all time
And kallend is sucking that tit

Cause it benefits him

It clearly frosts you that so many people are willing to pay a lot of money to have people like me prepare their children for good, well paying jobs in engineering and science that also benefit the economy of this country.

No-one is forced to send their kids to an expensive liberal arts school to prepare them for a career serving Big Macs. That is an option in a free country.

In fact, no one is forced to send their kids to any expensive school - there are lots of fine community colleges around that are very inexpensive.

Your jealousy and anti-science attitude are obvious.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,180]

rushmc

******************Actually, you are a willing participant in one the biggest scams ever to befall college students or anyone else in this country. Worse than a Wall Street Banker.

Let alone its those of your ilk that have been responsible for creating destructive technologies that have resulted in the deaths of tens of millions.

So, climb down off that high horse.

Codswallop.

Engineering majors have the highest ROI of pretty much any investment their parents can possibly make on their behalf.

The scam is perpetrated by the banks that make the college loans, and the rules that the Congress the banks have bought has made on their behalf.

It's also perpetrated by the colleges who continue to raise the cost of an education because they know the Govt. will continue to make the loans and the students will continue to be saddled with massive debt. Nice little system you are a part of. Bernie Madoff would be proud.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-class-of-13-youve-been-scammed-2013-05-17

Big education gets a pass
Cause they support the Dems
and it is becoming one of the biggest gov/college scams of all time
And kallend is sucking that tit

Cause it benefits himWell, they have to come up with the money somehow so their professors can afford their own private planes and antique British Sports Cars.

Your ignorance IS curable.

Not by you

Getting help from you would be the same as using aspirin to help with gout pain



Would you like me to post pictures of my 5 Excellence in Teaching Awards? (More than any other faculty member in the 120 year history of my school).

Your jealousy and anti-science attitude is obvious.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Gravitymaster 0]

Scammers and their minions always have justifications.

[kallend 2,180]

Gravitymaster

Scammers and their minions always have justifications.

Indeed, the banks and the GOP have made numerous excuses for the student loan situation.

I just teach young people the material they need to attain well paying careers and be very productive and useful members of society.

How do you like that computer you're typing on, car you drive, plane you skydive from, clean water from your faucets, bridges you drive over, electrical power from your wall sockets, LED flashlights, etc..., all brought to you courtesy of well educated engineers?

And BTW, my antique car and private plane were not bought with any funds from my academic salary.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Boomerdog 0]

So...you teach engineering and physics to high school students. I've taught College Chemistry to University Students. Add up all my academic and professional lab time and it's about 45 years. If you want to compare resumes, I'll be more than happy. I can splatter equations all over this board ranging from classical to atomic physics, quantum and statistical mechanics but that would serve no purpose, only insult the readership and make me out to be some egotistical egghead which I am far from but the bona fides you you use to justify your credibility just does not seem to be cutting here with some and definitely not me. So speaking as one of those "right wing anti science guys" who just happens to be a scientist, the proposed mechanism of global warming is certainly worth a good look and scientific investigation. There's some data there that does concern me. On a personal level, I don't want to free fall in polluted air or SCUBA dive in polluted oceans. I would, however, like to see good science done and let the data do the speaking. We've already seen "the books cooked" by left wing scientists over in the UK. Their data sets did not fit the political narrative and they got caught. For the record, I'd like to see fossil fuels go the way of the dinosaur (pun intended) but not at the expense of economic catastrophe. At some point, both sides are going to have to get to the table, face one another and get off this "my way or the highway" mentality. You teach kids, the leaders of tomorrow, don't you think you have the ethical and moral obligation to present both compelling sides of the argument for somewhere in the mix could be the solutions that they will need. Get the "political" out of the "science," and perhaps we'll solve this problem. Until then, your argument rings hollow. OBTW, my graduate work was in digital IR analysis of all plus a few more compounds noted by others in this thread.

[kallend 2,180]

Boomerdog

So...you teach engineering and physics to high school students.

No.

Rest of your post ignored on account of consequent lack of relevance.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Boomerdog 0]

You are so full of $#!t, you plop instead of squeak.

[quade 4]

Boomerdog

You are so full of $#!t, you plop instead of squeak.

Only warning. Continuing along this line will not go well for you.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[Gravitymaster 0]

kallend

***Scammers and their minions always have justifications.

Indeed, the banks and the GOP have made numerous excuses for the student loan situation.

I just teach young people the material they need to attain well paying careers and be very productive and useful members of society.

How do you like that computer you're typing on, car you drive, plane you skydive from, clean water from your faucets, bridges you drive over, electrical power from your wall sockets, LED flashlights, etc..., all brought to you courtesy of well educated engineers?

And BTW, my antique car and private plane were not bought with any funds from my academic salary.

Still makes you a part of a corrupt system. You still derive income from a system that fleeces young people and leaves them horrendously in debt after graduation. How can you justify a 4 fold increase in a College education even after adjusting foe inflation?

[kallend 2,180]

Gravitymaster

******Scammers and their minions always have justifications.

Indeed, the banks and the GOP have made numerous excuses for the student loan situation.

I just teach young people the material they need to attain well paying careers and be very productive and useful members of society.

How do you like that computer you're typing on, car you drive, plane you skydive from, clean water from your faucets, bridges you drive over, electrical power from your wall sockets, LED flashlights, etc..., all brought to you courtesy of well educated engineers?

And BTW, my antique car and private plane were not bought with any funds from my academic salary.

Still makes you a part of a corrupt system. You still derive income from a system that fleeces young people and leaves them horrendously in debt after graduation. How can you justify a 4 fold increase in a College education even after adjusting foe inflation?

Engineering majors have a ROI that compares very favorably with any other investment they could make.

Your argument is based on false premises and is absurd, and you know it. Take it up with the bankers and their cronies in the GOP.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[kallend 2,180]

Boomerdog

You are so full of $#!t, you plop instead of squeak.

Hardly my fault if your research skills are inadequate.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Boomerdog 0]

I've forgotten more about the subject than you'll ever know.

[brenthutch 444]

kallend

***So...you teach engineering and physics to high school students.

No.

Rest of your post ignored on account of consequent lack of relevance.

More like lack of agreement.

[quade 4]

Boomerdog

I've forgotten more about the subject than you'll ever know.

Frank, maybe you can link us some of your research into the subject so we can make that determination for ourselves.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[rushmc 23]

frosts me??


Nah
Just funny watching you refuse to acknowledge the fact your business it highly government subsidized.

That is why you pollute the young persons minds
To keep you money boat floating

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,180]

rushmc

frosts me??


Nah
Just funny watching you refuse to acknowledge the fact your business it highly government subsidized.

That is why you pollute the young persons minds
To keep you money boat floating

Next time an engineering dean position becomes vacant, you and Gravitymaster should apply. You will dazzle the search committee with your superior knowledge of how engineering education can be done on the cheap. Go back to pencils instead of CAD systems, go back to hacksaws instead of rapid prototype machines and CAD/CAM systems. Slide rules instead of graphics workstations. Test tubes instead of IR spectroscopy and NMR machines.

Then you can propose no high speed internet in the dorms, no cable TV, no accommodations for disabled veterans, no exercise rooms.

Do it in Texas. I bet students will come flocking to Sam Houston Institute of Technology (S.H.I.T.).

PS my university is private and doesn't get government subsidies.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

***frosts me??


Nah
Just funny watching you refuse to acknowledge the fact your business it highly government subsidized.

That is why you pollute the young persons minds
To keep you money boat floating

Next time an engineering dean position becomes vacant, you and Gravitymaster should apply. You will dazzle the search committee with your superior knowledge of how engineering education can be done on the cheap. Go back to pencils instead of CAD systems, go back to hacksaws instead of rapid prototype machines and CAD/CAM systems. Slide rules instead of graphics workstations. Test tubes instead of IR spectroscopy and NMR machines.

Then you can propose no high speed internet in the dorms, no cable TV, no accommodations for disabled veterans, no exercise rooms.

I bet students will come flocking to El-Cheapo Institute of Technology.

Must have edited the original comment.

Are you denying that at least SOME if not all of your salary comes from the government?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,180]

turtlespeed

******frosts me??


Nah
Just funny watching you refuse to acknowledge the fact your business it highly government subsidized.

That is why you pollute the young persons minds
To keep you money boat floating

Next time an engineering dean position becomes vacant, you and Gravitymaster should apply. You will dazzle the search committee with your superior knowledge of how engineering education can be done on the cheap. Go back to pencils instead of CAD systems, go back to hacksaws instead of rapid prototype machines and CAD/CAM systems. Slide rules instead of graphics workstations. Test tubes instead of IR spectroscopy and NMR machines.

Then you can propose no high speed internet in the dorms, no cable TV, no accommodations for disabled veterans, no exercise rooms.

I bet students will come flocking to El-Cheapo Institute of Technology.

Must have edited the original comment.

Are you denying that at least SOME if not all of your salary comes from the government?

None of my salary comes from the government. Not that it's any of your business.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

*********frosts me??


Nah
Just funny watching you refuse to acknowledge the fact your business it highly government subsidized.

That is why you pollute the young persons minds
To keep you money boat floating

Next time an engineering dean position becomes vacant, you and Gravitymaster should apply. You will dazzle the search committee with your superior knowledge of how engineering education can be done on the cheap. Go back to pencils instead of CAD systems, go back to hacksaws instead of rapid prototype machines and CAD/CAM systems. Slide rules instead of graphics workstations. Test tubes instead of IR spectroscopy and NMR machines.

Then you can propose no high speed internet in the dorms, no cable TV, no accommodations for disabled veterans, no exercise rooms.

I bet students will come flocking to El-Cheapo Institute of Technology.

Must have edited the original comment.

Are you denying that at least SOME if not all of your salary comes from the government?

None of my salary comes from the government. Not that it's any of your business.

So the government does not subsidise the university you work for? At all?

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,180]

turtlespeed

************frosts me??


Nah
Just funny watching you refuse to acknowledge the fact your business it highly government subsidized.

That is why you pollute the young persons minds
To keep you money boat floating

Next time an engineering dean position becomes vacant, you and Gravitymaster should apply. You will dazzle the search committee with your superior knowledge of how engineering education can be done on the cheap. Go back to pencils instead of CAD systems, go back to hacksaws instead of rapid prototype machines and CAD/CAM systems. Slide rules instead of graphics workstations. Test tubes instead of IR spectroscopy and NMR machines.

Then you can propose no high speed internet in the dorms, no cable TV, no accommodations for disabled veterans, no exercise rooms.

I bet students will come flocking to El-Cheapo Institute of Technology.

Must have edited the original comment.

Are you denying that at least SOME if not all of your salary comes from the government?

None of my salary comes from the government. Not that it's any of your business.

So the government does not subsidise the university you work for? At all?

Nope. We are private. NOT THAT IT'S ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

***************frosts me??


Nah
Just funny watching you refuse to acknowledge the fact your business it highly government subsidized.

That is why you pollute the young persons minds
To keep you money boat floating

Next time an engineering dean position becomes vacant, you and Gravitymaster should apply. You will dazzle the search committee with your superior knowledge of how engineering education can be done on the cheap. Go back to pencils instead of CAD systems, go back to hacksaws instead of rapid prototype machines and CAD/CAM systems. Slide rules instead of graphics workstations. Test tubes instead of IR spectroscopy and NMR machines.

Then you can propose no high speed internet in the dorms, no cable TV, no accommodations for disabled veterans, no exercise rooms.

I bet students will come flocking to El-Cheapo Institute of Technology.

Must have edited the original comment.

Are you denying that at least SOME if not all of your salary comes from the government?

None of my salary comes from the government. Not that it's any of your business.

So the government does not subsidise the university you work for? At all?

Nope. We are private. NOT THAT IT'S ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS.

My bad.
I guess I just assumed that you worked for a state university.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,180]

turtlespeed

I guess I just assumed that you worked for a state university.

WRONG, as usual.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

***
I guess I just assumed that you worked for a state university.

WRONG, as usual.

It just makes sense . . . that was the only way you could legitimately acquire those awards.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun