Obama Pledges Greater Surveillance Transparency

[masterblaster72 0]

WTF?

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He has been defending the programmes since they were leaked in June.

At Friday's news conference, Mr Obama said: "It's not enough for me as president to have confidence in these programmes; the American people need to have confidence as well."

"Surveillance" and "tranparency" in the same pledge sounds like a load of BS and/or a major fail in the making. If anything I think this is an act to save a bit of face after his snub of Putin.

It's hard to imagine there's anyone who is not at least a little disappointed in this president.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[kelpdiver 2]

bit of a hollow promise after insisting none of it was going on in the first place. Promise specific changes, not a generic promise to be better.

[masterrig 1]

More BS out of the guy. Seems like all he does is try to cover-up and crawfish out of one thing or another.


Chuck

[normiss 892]

I thought this was the guy with all the "government transparency".
What a load of shit.
Like ALL politicians.

[mpohl 1]

The people get the government they deserve.
The US, and its voting populace, does not deserve any better!

P.S.: The people want to be lied at. "US is #1, leader in the world, the beacon of democracy." Bullshit...

normiss

I thought this was the guy with all the "government transparency".
What a load of shit.
Like ALL politicians.

[masterrig 1]

You got that right! Like other politicians, they think they are so much smarter than the average American. Meanwhile, they have lost sight of why they are there and have their own agendas. Their main concern is getting wealthy.


Chuck

[lawrocket 3]

And those people who hate Republicans (really. It's what it's about. The people who defend him now hatesd Bush for doing the same thing. Just like those who loved when Bush did it hate it now) will talk about how swell the awesome and amazing Constitutional scholar who cares so much about us. You really have to love your people to protect us the way he is. Obama's a Peace Prize winner and can be trusted.

Obama is telling us that he doesn't want to snoop on you. It's everybody else, and, by golly by gee, isn't it worth just a little bit of inconvenience or lack of privacy if they prevent just one terrorist act? Just one? People, be afraid or terrorists. Not the government.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[masterrig 1]

I have forgotten... why did Obama receive a Nobel Peace prize?


Chuck

[champu 1]

masterrig

I have forgotten... why did Obama receive a Nobel Peace prize?

From the horse's mouth: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

Really the prize should have been given to "people who voted for what he said during his campaign" rather than given to him. But that would have been too abstract and ridiculous a thing to award a Nobel Prize to, and the Nobel committee was still three years away from jumping the shark.

[masterrig 1]

champu

***I have forgotten... why did Obama receive a Nobel Peace prize?

From the horse's mouth: http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html

Really the prize should have been given to "people who voted for what he said during his campaign" rather than given to him. But that would have been too abstract and ridiculous a thing to award a Nobel Prize to, and the Nobel committee was still three years away from jumping the shark.

I thought they jumped the shark at the time. He was barely in office. Very convincing isn't he.


Chuck

[ryoder 1,590]

masterrig

I thought they jumped the shark at the time. He was barely in office. Very convincing isn't he.


Chuck

I think they gave him the award just for not being Dubya.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[masterrig 1]

ryoder

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I thought they jumped the shark at the time. He was barely in office. Very convincing isn't he.


Chuck

I think they gave him the award just for not being Dubya.

Whatever their reasons they weren't very good. The guy hadn't done anything. The committee lost credibility on that one. But he's got it and we don't.


Chuck


Chuck

[ryoder 1,590]

masterrig

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I thought they jumped the shark at the time. He was barely in office. Very convincing isn't he.


Chuck

I think they gave him the award just for not being Dubya.

Whatever their reasons they weren't very good. The guy hadn't done anything. The committee lost credibility on that one. But he's got it and we don't.


I totally agree.
It was just silly.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[winsor 236]

masterrig

I have forgotten... why did Obama receive a Nobel Peace prize?


Chuck

I think this rather covers it.

[ryoder 1,590]

winsor

***I have forgotten... why did Obama receive a Nobel Peace prize?


Chuck

I think this rather covers it.

Oh, yes!
I miss Hitch.

At 6:10: "...we just like him for not being George Bush..."
So I wasn't the only one thinking that.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[kallend 2,146]

ryoder

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I thought they jumped the shark at the time. He was barely in office. Very convincing isn't he.


Chuck

I think they gave him the award just for not being Dubya.

Seems like a pretty good reason, since Dubya started 2 wars.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[lawrocket 3]

[Reply]Seems like a pretty good reason, since Dubya started 2 wars.

[Gravitymaster 0]

But..but.. Obama hasn't STARTED any wars. That's a big difference in the minds of some. It's the declaration that's important, not the acts.

[masterrig 1]

winsor

***I have forgotten... why did Obama receive a Nobel Peace prize?


Chuck

I think this rather covers it.


That about sums it up!


Chuck

[lawrocket 3]

Gravitymaster

But..but.. Obama hasn't STARTED any wars. That's a big difference in the minds of some. It's the declaration that's important, not the acts.

Right. Libya. Yemen. The syria situation. Etc. If you just do it and say, "We didn't start it. We were asked to help" then it's a civil war that you are monitoring and providing "humanitarian assistance."

No. War is only war if a Republican starts it. Republicans start wars. Democrats merely "reset the peace process."

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[jclalor 12]

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Gravitymaster

But..but.. Obama hasn't STARTED any wars. That's a big difference in the minds of some. It's the declaration that's important, not the acts.

No matter what Obama does, he just can't win with some people. If he stopped the drone attacks and taking the offensive on extremist, he would be considered weak and a Muslim appeaser, and if he does what he is currently doing, he's now a reckless war monger.

Nobody on the right saw this coming while he was running for his first term.

[Kennedy 0]

lawrocket

And those people who hate Republicans (really. It's what it's about. The people who defend him now hatesd Bush for doing the same thing. Just like those who loved when Bush did it hate it now) will talk about how swell the awesome and amazing Constitutional scholar who cares so much about us. You really have to love your people to protect us the way he is. Obama's a Peace Prize winner and can be trusted.

Obama is telling us that he doesn't want to snoop on you. It's everybody else, and, by golly by gee, isn't it worth just a little bit of inconvenience or lack of privacy if they prevent just one terrorist act? Just one? People, be afraid or terrorists. Not the government.

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I really can't understand people who trust "their guy" to use things responsibly and so think there is no problem with government assuming new, extra legal powers. Are they that short sighted? What do you expect will happen when some guy who is not "your guy" takes office again?

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[jclalor 12]

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Bush dropped bombs on Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Somalia. Obama has done all of those and added Yemen and Libya to it that I know of.

According to Ann Coulter, Obama has also bombed Egypt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1523WCarLf8