Yet another mass shooting

[kallend 2,146]

Kennedy

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Pretty much ANY anticholinergic drug has the potential to cause delirium and confusion. Those are great traits for a responsible gun owner, no?

And if you think a drug should remove a citizens right to own a firearm.... Wild you also use that same reason to remove their right to drive or skydive?

Or pilot an airliner?

Ah ah ah, professor. Commercial operators carrying people or cargo are subjected to more stringent controls, whether you're talking wings or wheels. We're talking about citizens and private activities. (private as in not public or commercial; not implying for out of public view). If you want to use private pilots in their own planes, your analogy might have some bearing.

OK, which anticholinergic drugs are FAA approved for ANY pilot?

(Here's a hint - the list is the same as for airline pilots)

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Kennedy 0]

So do you want to put FAA type restrictions on all these other aspects of everybody's life? I doubt it, considering how much you complain about them. So what's your big point? Are you suggesting the limits on pilots are right and should be put on everyone for other activities?

Tie this into the OP. Can you define nutter better than current law? Do you have a suggestion HOW the law should change, rather than just saying it should change?

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[kallend 2,146]

Kennedy

So do you want to put FAA type restrictions on all these other aspects of everybody's life? I doubt it, considering how much you complain about them. So what's your big point? Are you suggesting the limits on pilots are right and should be put on everyone for other activities?

Tie this into the OP. Can you define nutter better than current law? Do you have a suggestion HOW the law should change, rather than just saying it should change?

1. Where did I write that? I thought you were above making strawman arguments.

2. Point is clear to anyone who isn't blinded by love of guns.

If a drug makes you a danger to others as a trained pilot, then it makes you a danger to others with any potentially deadly device, especially if you've had almost no training at all.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DaVinci 0]

kallend

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Pretty much ANY anticholinergic drug has the potential to cause delirium and confusion. Those are great traits for a responsible gun owner, no?

And if you think a drug should remove a citizens right to own a firearm.... Wild you also use that same reason to remove their right to drive or skydive?

Or pilot an airliner?

Care to answer the question I asked?

[kallend 2,146]

DaVinci

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Pretty much ANY anticholinergic drug has the potential to cause delirium and confusion. Those are great traits for a responsible gun owner, no?

And if you think a drug should remove a citizens right to own a firearm.... Wild you also use that same reason to remove their right to drive or skydive?

Or pilot an airliner?

Care to answer the question I asked?

Surely it's for yoink to answer a question you asked of him.

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=4518337;so=ASC;sb=post_latest_reply;#4518079

Is your memory that bad you can't recall who you replied to?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Kennedy 0]

kallend

***So do you want to put FAA type restrictions on all these other aspects of everybody's life? I doubt it, considering how much you complain about them. So what's your big point? Are you suggesting the limits on pilots are right and should be put on everyone for other activities?

Tie this into the OP. Can you define nutter better than current law? Do you have a suggestion HOW the law should change, rather than just saying it should change?

1. Where did I write that? I thought you were above making strawman arguments.

2. Point is clear to anyone who isn't blinded by love of guns.

You didn't write it. I asked a question. I'm really trying to see what you're saying. Do you think FAA drug regs are appropriate for pilots? Do you think similar regs should apply to commercial drivers, anyone operating heavy machinery? Should they be applied to normal drivers licenses? To concealed carry permits?

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If a drug makes you a danger to others as a trained pilot, then it makes you a danger to others with any potentially deadly device, especially if you've had almost no training at all.

Is that a yes to all the questions above?

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[dmcoco84 5]

NorrinRadd

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But that does not mean we do not still exercise control at point of purchase and licensing. There is no right to own here.

And we don't care about your country; Mind Your Business!

This is my business. This is an international forum. And I know for a fact you do not speak for all Americans when you say this. I know there are plenty of people on both sides of the border who think our neighbours are just great! And we all tend to ignore the feeble rants of xenophobes like yourself. Why... I have celebrated July 1st (Canada Day) AND July 4th (your independence day) one right after the other, on both sides of the border, with the same people, both Canadian and American.



Mind Your Business... is a, "Concept": See Benjamin Franklin.

Xenophobe...

I was directly addressing your statement. You don't have a right to own, and that's fine, we don't care.

Our nation is based on the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God. We, do, have a right to self defense; a self evident truth, but further protected by the Second.

But, I'm a xenophobe. Ha!

[dmcoco84 5]

This post is killin' me... I swear.

However, you were wrong... I read every word the first time, and again right now.

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I actually do have a degree in neuroscience

Care to elaborate? You aren't using medical terminology at all... so, curious what you actually studied.

[dmcoco84 5]

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Before I end, I want to point out that your initial statement is completely wrong too. You're the one being emotional and judgmental. I'm advocating measurable and quantifiable metrics... no emotion there.

I am speaking about legislative decisions based on emotion, illogical overreactions... the Constitution is framed specifically to prevent that.

[DaVinci 0]

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Surely it's for yoink to answer a question you asked of him.

http://www.dropzone.com/...atest_reply;#4518079

Is your memory that bad you can't recall who you replied to?

Nope still talking to you about your hypocritical stance on demanding answers.


For example: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4293787#4293787

You have a LONG history of not answering a question that someone asks you. So finding humor in you demanding an answer is off the chart ironic.

I didn't see an answer to any of THESE either:
http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2705694#2705694

So you ever going to answer them?

[kallend 2,146]

www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57597525/4-dead-4-hurt-in-2-shootings-in-dallas-area/

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DaVinci 0]

"he tossed what police believe may be some type of explosive device into the home"

We should make those illegal..... Maybe anything that could be used to make explosives should be illegal as well. Like sugar, ammonium perchlorate, aluminum powder, and potassium nitrate.

Or at the VERY least, require an extensive background check for anything that could be used to make an explosive.

[kallend 2,146]

DaVinci

"he tossed what police believe may be some type of explosive device into the home"

We should make those illegal..... Maybe anything that could be used to make explosives should be illegal as well. Like sugar, ammonium perchlorate, aluminum powder, and potassium nitrate.

Or at the VERY least, require an extensive background check for anything that could be used to make an explosive.

Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I'm OK with non felons and non loonies possessing whatever they want. Including guns and potassium nitrate.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Kennedy 0]

kallend

Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I'm OK with non felons and non loonies possessing whatever they want. Including guns and potassium nitrate.

And as soon as you can define "loonies", we might start giving a damn about your right-to-own opinions again. Until then, give it a rest.

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[kallend 2,146]

Kennedy

***Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I'm OK with non felons and non loonies possessing whatever they want. Including guns and potassium nitrate.

And as soon as you can define "loonies", we might start giving a damn about your right-to-own opinions again. Until then, give it a rest.

I leave such definitions to the appropriately qualified medical professionals, just like I leave defining "felons" to appropriately constituted law courts.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Kennedy 0]

kallend

******Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I'm OK with non felons and non loonies possessing whatever they want. Including guns and potassium nitrate.

And as soon as you can define "loonies", we might start giving a damn about your right-to-own opinions again. Until then, give it a rest.

I leave such definitions to the appropriately qualified medical professionals, just like I leave defining "felons" to appropriately constituted law courts.

Well that's a change for you. That would appear to say you don't want any changes whatsoever, because that's exactly what we have in place today. We are talking about a legal right, so things are subject to legal definitions.

Or are you saying you want to give legal powers to medical personnel (that they emphatically do not want)?

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[kallend 2,146]

Kennedy

*********Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I'm OK with non felons and non loonies possessing whatever they want. Including guns and potassium nitrate.

And as soon as you can define "loonies", we might start giving a damn about your right-to-own opinions again. Until then, give it a rest.

I leave such definitions to the appropriately qualified medical professionals, just like I leave defining "felons" to appropriately constituted law courts.

Well that's a change for you. That would appear to say you don't want any changes whatsoever, because that's exactly what we have in place today. We are talking about a legal right, so things are subject to legal definitions.

Or are you saying you want to give legal powers to medical personnel (that they emphatically do not want)?

I meant exactly what I wrote. Trying to misrepresent what I wrote suggests you have no real argument.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

kallend

************Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I'm OK with non felons and non loonies possessing whatever they want. Including guns and potassium nitrate.

And as soon as you can define "loonies", we might start giving a damn about your right-to-own opinions again. Until then, give it a rest.

I leave such definitions to the appropriately qualified medical professionals, just like I leave defining "felons" to appropriately constituted law courts.

Well that's a change for you. That would appear to say you don't want any changes whatsoever, because that's exactly what we have in place today. We are talking about a legal right, so things are subject to legal definitions.

Or are you saying you want to give legal powers to medical personnel (that they emphatically do not want)?

I meant exactly what I wrote. Trying to misrepresent what I wrote suggests you have no real argument.

Someday
You might be clear about what you say

But then, you would have to identify what you stand for
I don't see that happening anytime soon
You are too chicken to do that or take a stand

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[DaVinci 0]

kallend

***"he tossed what police believe may be some type of explosive device into the home"

We should make those illegal..... Maybe anything that could be used to make explosives should be illegal as well. Like sugar, ammonium perchlorate, aluminum powder, and potassium nitrate.

Or at the VERY least, require an extensive background check for anything that could be used to make an explosive.

Whatever floats your boat.

Personally I'm OK with non felons and non loonies possessing whatever they want. Including guns and potassium nitrate.

I leave such definitions to the appropriately qualified medical professionals, just like I leave defining "felons" to appropriately constituted law courts.

Great, just as I am fine with citizens not being considered criminals till they are proven to be criminals.

Which means they are not treated like criminals or insane till they are PROVEN to be criminals or insane. By the same justice system and medical system you think is the only people qualified to make that judgment.

So basically, you are innocent till PROVEN guilty.

[kallend 2,146]

DaVinci

So basically, you are innocent till PROVEN guilty.

You are a quick learner!

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[DaVinci 0]

kallend

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So basically, you are innocent till PROVEN guilty.

You are a quick learner!

Ah. More playing the ball, not the player.

Regrettably, you do not seem to support that concept considering you want honest citizens to jump through hoops to be able to exercise only one Constitutional right.

[Kennedy 0]

He thinks innocent until proven guilty is fine. He has issues with sane until proven "nutters". Apparently he's more a fan of crazy (if anyone anywhere says so) until proven normal.

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