Trayvon Martin case and double standards

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Anyone hear of Roderick Scott?

NOPE. Didn't think so.


http://www.decodedscience.com/roderick-scott-the-black-george-zimmerman-acquitted-of-murder/33569

FUCK DOUBLE STANDARDS

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OHCHUTE

Liberals will become conservative quick upon walking East Capital Street alone after dark. You up there calling people racist, have never felt the fist of an African American thug. I have. And was put in the hospital by one.

I've been in violent physical confrontations with plenty if folks from plenty of races, including an urban black youth and a recent African immigrant. One was trying to inflict great bodily harm, and I would've been justified in killing him. I managed to avoid sending anybody to the hospital or morgue, but I had help. In my experience, race has nothing to do with it.

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Our streets are not safe as a result of hooded, young black men. The stats prove this. It's even more dangerous for young black hooded men.

Horseshit. Our streets are generally safe, and when they're not its due to criminals, not people of any given race. Shitty neighborhoods, like shitty people, come in all creeds and colors.

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Now why not help further the data and come to Washington DC and take a stroll. I'll watch from the armored vehicle.

I went to school inside the beltway and spent several years after that working PG, DC, and Nova. I strolled some the worst neighborhoods. I never had an armored vehicle. What's your point? Awareness and reasonable precautions go along way towards keeping you safe. At lot further than racism.

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Kennedy

***Liberals will become conservative quick upon walking East Capital Street alone after dark. You up there calling people racist, have never felt the fist of an African American thug. I have. And was put in the hospital by one.

I've been in violent physical confrontations with plenty if folks from plenty of races, including an urban black youth and a recent African immigrant. One was trying to inflict great bodily harm, and I would've been justified in killing him. I managed to avoid sending anybody to the hospital or morgue, but I had help. In my experience, race has nothing to do with it.

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Our streets are not safe as a result of hooded, young black men. The stats prove this. It's even more dangerous for young black hooded men.

Horseshit. Our streets are generally safe, and when they're not its due to criminals, not people of any given race. Shitty neighborhoods, like shitty people, come in all creeds and colors.

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Now why not help further the data and come to Washington DC and take a stroll. I'll watch from the armored vehicle.

I went to school inside the beltway and spent several years after that working PG, DC, and Nova. I strolled some the worst neighborhoods. I never had an armored vehicle. What's your point? Awareness and reasonable precautions go along way towards keeping you safe. At lot further than racism.

You said it: "reasonable precautions and awareness"

Why?

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You said it: "reasonable precautions and awareness"

Why?

Because shitty people exist. Notice how I managed to say that without referencing race? It's because I know one has nothing to do with the other. Hopefully someday you'll learn that.

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Kennedy

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You said it: "reasonable precautions and awareness"

Why?

Because shitty people exist. Notice how I managed to say that without referencing race? It's because I know one has nothing to do with the other. Hopefully someday you'll learn that.

If the majority of murders in our major cities are perpetrated by young African American men, which they are, according to verifiable reliable sources, then it is only natural, for people who know these statistics to "take reasonable precautions and have awareness." If those measures are taken, that does not mean you are racist.

Nova is not L street SE.

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Pretty sure taking reasonable measures includes locking doors when hoodrats walk by, countering obamas bullshit statement earlier this week

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OHCHUTE

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Because shitty people exist. Notice how I managed to say that without referencing race? It's because I know one has nothing to do with the other. Hopefully someday you'll learn that.

If the majority of murders in our major cities are perpetrated by young African American men, which they are, according to verifiable reliable sources, then it is only natural, for people who know these statistics to "take reasonable precautions and have awareness." If those measures are taken, that does not mean you are racist.

Changing your story much?
You're post up thread:

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Liberals will become conservative quick upon walking East Capital Street alone after dark. You up there calling people racist, have never felt the fist of an African American thug. I have. And was put in the hospital by one.

Our streets are not safe as a result of hooded, young black men.

Paying attention and being safe are good. Being aware bad people exist is good. Thinking black people make our streets unsafe is racist. Racist is bad. Are you worried about criminals or blacks? Or are you so racist thy you think they're one and the same?

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Nova is not L street SE.

Did you miss that I mentioned PG and DC as well as Nova? And are you ignorant if the fact that parts of Nova are more dangerous than SE? MS13 likes to play on 95 in VA a lot more than in DC.

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Kennedy

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Because shitty people exist. Notice how I managed to say that without referencing race? It's because I know one has nothing to do with the other. Hopefully someday you'll learn that.

If the majority of murders in our major cities are perpetrated by young African American men, which they are, according to verifiable reliable sources, then it is only natural, for people who know these statistics to "take reasonable precautions and have awareness." If those measures are taken, that does not mean you are racist.

Changing your story much?
You're post up thread:

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Liberals will become conservative quick upon walking East Capital Street alone after dark. You up there calling people racist, have never felt the fist of an African American thug. I have. And was put in the hospital by one.

Our streets are not safe as a result of hooded, young black men.

Paying attention and being safe are good. Being aware bad people exist is good. Thinking black people make our streets unsafe is racist. Racist is bad. Are you worried about criminals or blacks? Or are you so racist thy you think they're one and the same?

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Nova is not L street SE.

Did you miss that I mentioned PG and DC as well as Nova? And are you ignorant if the fact that parts of Nova are more dangerous than SE? MS13 likes to play on 95 in VA a lot more than in DC.

So since much of the violence is between black on black crime, you say it is racist to avoid areas where there are blacks in the event that bullets, and bullets do spray around, via drive by's and what have you, as blacks are shooting at each other is racist?

By your reasoning, of paying attention, and watching over your shoulder, to stay out of crossfire, one is racist. Hardly.


I don't have to look over my shoulder in my neighborhood as it lacks the type of people you refer to as: shitty people.

Also, the study of race and crime go back nearly 100 years and is discussed quite a bit so your idea that talking about who commits crimes as racist is a tad naive.

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Pretty sure taking reasonable measures includes locking doors when hoodrats walk by, countering obamas bullshit statement earlier this week

Why do you drive around with your doors unlocked until you see a potential threat? I lock my doors as soon as I get in. You won't always see them coming. Also, the only guy who ever tried to open my door while I was in the vehicle was a crazy tweaker looking to jack my phone for a next hit. A knife pointed at him from behind the closed window deterred him. Didn't even have to reach for anything else. Fucker did scratch my paint though. Local PD never charged him with anything related to my car, but did pick him up on an absconder warrant and send him up for long enough that I never saw him again.

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OHCHUTE

So since much of the violence is between black on black crime, you say it is racist to avoid areas where there are blacks in the event that bullets, and bullets do spray around, via drive by's and what have you, as blacks are shooting at each other is racist?

By your reasoning, of paying attention, and watching over your shoulder, to stay out of crossfire, one is racist. Hardly.

Try to keep up. Avoiding an area because of high crime rate or presence of dangerous characters is prudent. Avoiding an area because there are people of a certain race is racist. It's not difficult for most people to understand.

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I don't have to look over my shoulder in my neighborhood as it lacks the type of people you refer to as: shitty people.

If you want to walk around unaware and unprepared in certain areas that is your prerogative. Some people do it their whole life without ill effect.

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Also, the study of race and crime go back nearly 100 years and is discussed quite a bit so your idea that talking about who commits crimes as racist is a tad naive.

Seeing as my bachelors degree is in criminology and criminal justice, I'd wager I know more about the topic than you do. Nothing in this field of study supports hating or fearing an entire race.

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why do you people continue to feed the fucking troll?

It's mysterious enough why he's permitted to exist still, but regardless he should be given the same attention at the Klan or the Westboros - none.

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Kennedy

***So since much of the violence is between black on black crime, you say it is racist to avoid areas where there are blacks in the event that bullets, and bullets do spray around, via drive by's and what have you, as blacks are shooting at each other is racist?

By your reasoning, of paying attention, and watching over your shoulder, to stay out of crossfire, one is racist. Hardly.

Try to keep up. Avoiding an area because of high crime rate or presence of dangerous characters is prudent. Avoiding an area because there are people of a certain race is racist. It's not difficult for most people to understand.

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I don't have to look over my shoulder in my neighborhood as it lacks the type of people you refer to as: shitty people.

If you want to walk around unaware and unprepared in certain areas that is your prerogative. Some people do it their whole life without ill effect.

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Also, the study of race and crime go back nearly 100 years and is discussed quite a bit so your idea that talking about who commits crimes as racist is a tad naive.

Seeing as my bachelo,rs degree is in criminology and criminal justice, I'd wager I know more about the topic than you do. Nothing in this field of study supports hating or fearing an entire race.
I too have a degree in criminal justice. But I gather you might be an LEO, with a gun, as you say you frequent high crime areas. Having the ability to defend yourself may offset any apprehension you have about visiting a certain area.

Again, try to keep up. If a certain group of people are known to be violent, staying away from where those people might be, does not make you a racist. It makes you prudent.

Now if they allowed law abiding citizens the ability to defend themselves, with the same deadly force, as used by these individuals, would make this conversation moot. But that's not allowed. Hence, prudence rains the day.

Whether a prudent person is a racist is purely conjecture. I think not.

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Kennedy

***So since much of the violence is between black on black crime, you say it is racist to avoid areas where there are blacks in the event that bullets, and bullets do spray around, via drive by's and what have you, as blacks are shooting at each other is racist?

By your reasoning, of paying attention, and watching over your shoulder, to stay out of crossfire, one is racist. Hardly.

Try to keep up. Avoiding an area because of high crime rate or presence of dangerous characters is prudent. Avoiding an area because there are people of a certain race is racist. It's not difficult for most people to understand.

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I don't have to look over my shoulder in my neighborhood as it lacks the type of people you refer to as: shitty people.

If you want to walk around unaware and unprepared in certain areas that is your prerogative. Some people do it their whole life without ill effect.

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Also, the study of race and crime go back nearly 100 years and is discussed quite a bit so your idea that talking about who commits crimes as racist is a tad naive.

Seeing as my bachelors degree is in criminology and criminal justice, I'd wager I know more about the topic than you do. Nothing in this field of study supports hating or fearing an entire race.

Okay, I'm getting a bit sick of the one-dimensional treatment of "racism," among other things.

First off, while all people may have equal rights, they are by no means the same. There are genetic predispositions inherent in various human bloodlines - Tay-Sachs, sickle cell and what have you - and only an idiot would suppose otherwise. Differences among the human population are as significant as in any other species, in the same sense that a Collie and a Malamute are not interchangeable. If you dispute that, I am curious how much you would wager on a Clydesdale in the Kentucky Derby.

Second, to add nurture to nature, the effect of one's culture has a massive effect upon what might be expected of them. The difference between a kid born and raised in Scarsdale and his twin who was brought up in Tibet is prone to be massive. There will, of course, be genetic commonality, but the norms to which they are accustomed are vastly different.

I have studied and worked with people from Indonesia, Japan, Zaire, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc., as well as people of a broad spectrum of ethnicity who were born and raised in the US of A under a range of socioeconomic circumstances. My conclusion is that claiming that one might expect the same responses from any and all of them is nothing short of delusional.

This is not to apply any kind of value judgement to the differences between people, but to acknowledge their existence.

"Hispanic" includes Castillian, Chicano, Argentine and Peruvian - none of which are interchangeable. Similarly, you can get into a great deal of trouble by lumping together Kikuyu, Yoruba, Mandingo, Zulu and Maasai. Europeans include Albanians, Swedes, Dutch and Czech, whose languages, diet and culture differ greatly.

Does this make me a racist? According to some sources, yes. I have been called a "racist honky motherfucker," which still amuses me. I do consider race to be a factor in evaluating an individual, but not in the sense that it is overwhelmingly deterministic, or is good/bad per se. Whether I like it or not, it is a reality.

To discriminate is to be able to tell the difference. In some neighborhoods, failure to pick up on whether you are among Bloods or Crips (Trayvon's dad was a Crip, btw) can be career limiting, so discrimination can be a real life-saver at times.

The issue is stochastic, rather than binary. Applying fuzzy logic, one should be as leery of a clutch of black youngsters hanging out and sipping 'bird on a street corner as one would a group of white guys with bad teeth and swastika tattoos hanging out at a biker bar.

The bottom line is that there is a 92.6% likelihood that person screaming "RACISM!" the loudest is the most fully racist person you might wish to meet (Al Sharpton et al.).


BSBD,

Winsor

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Why is it than when a black person kills someone, a common response is that his enviroment being raised, his lack of economic ability due to poor education is brought up as a justified reason for why it really wasn't his fault.

If a white person says I'm scared of people that come from the lower economic scale, live in poor area's and commit a large percentage of crime - they are a racist?

The fact bare out that you should be careful.

If I lion was in your area and hungry would you be scared, of course. Would you be a racist for fearing the lion? Of course not.

Locking your doors (Mr. President) is a good idea when a precived threat is in the area (actually all the time) If that hurts the persons feelings than perhaps working to lower the legitmate numbers and facts that make people want to stay safe would be a good use of time.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

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skinnay

Hahahaha. I knew that arguing like a 10 year old would strike a nerve. I'm actually going to continue to call you out on your racism!

It will even be extra nice knowing that I am at peace with people of all races; and don't bottle up all this rage of how the liberal media unfairly represents my race

Just another wonderful day in the life of a non-racist....

haha...I dare you to walk down E105th street in Cleveland dressed like your avatar and see how quickly the brothers be pullin' a train on your ass.

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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regulator

I'm damn tired of reading in the news all day long...Trayvon this....Trayvon that. Boo fucking hoo.

Yet nobody remembers very recently about a 13 month old white baby murdered...shot in the FACE but a thug ass black dude...later quoted 'for the fun of it'...and of course he WONT GET THE DEATH PENALTY. Ironic.

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2013/07/white-baby-murdered-by-black-teens-who.html

What about the white woman shot and killed in broad daylight in houston and had her baby stolen by a black woman...

http://drinkyourkoolaid.com/black-woman-murders-white-woman-outside-pediatricians-office-then-steals-the-baby/

DONT HEAR SHIT ABOUT THAT EITHER DO WE?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

Knoxville double murders...carjacking...gangrape, draino poured down the white girls throat...anyone heard of this one?

But the second a black kid beats up a hispanic [that gets labeled white] and gets shot in the process of self defense its front page center news all day long. And of course obama has to chime in and make it even more of a race baiting issue with the liberal media sucking his left nut in the process.

FUCK DOUBLE STANDARDS.

That is all.

AMEN!

I am SOOOOOOOOO SICK of hearing about the new baby being born in England.

Why are we not hearing about 13 month old "white babies" killed by black men for the fun of it.

Fuckin liberal racist double standard media.

I counted 15 stories on CNN alone!!! Makes me SICK.

Preach it Reg. Preach it.

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***http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/domestic-extremism-terrorism/c/white-supremacists-use.html

Seems to describe you pretty well eh?

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Interesting you seem to know so much about me when you call me a racist. I lived in Dallas for 15 years. Around 10 of those years I was roommates with a black man. I suppose when you write my biography with all you know about me you forgot about that part.

Its whimsical how you are so quick to call someone else a racist but when black people murder whites its totally fine with you.


Im not sure.....but I dont think living with someone means you aren't racist....

Maybe the fact that you bring race into every conversation, and post racist statistics designed to inflame and incite, without taking into account the socio-economics, or any of another 40 factors that influence those numbers.....leads him to that conclusion.

again, I am not sure.

But I sure am sick of hearing about that damn WHITE baby being born in England. How many black babies are born every day in Africa? Where are my stories about them?!?

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Kennedy

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You said it: "reasonable precautions and awareness"

Why?

Because shitty people exist. Notice how I managed to say that without referencing race? It's because I know one has nothing to do with the other. Hopefully someday you'll learn that.

I believe this is the first time I have agreed 100% with a post by you.

Well said sir.

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haha...I dare you to walk down E105th street in Cleveland dressed like your avatar and see how quickly the brothers be pullin' a train on your ass.

I'm guessing about as quickly as the white rednecks would jump him on any street in a rural southern town.

Blacks don't have a monopoly on shittiness.

- Dan G

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haha...I dare you to walk down E105th street in Cleveland dressed like your avatar and see how quickly the brothers be pullin' a train on your ass.

I'm guessing about as quickly as the white rednecks would jump him on any street in a rural southern town.

Blacks don't have a monopoly on shittiness.

True. But they have a firm grip on the market. I was responding to this statement...

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It will even be extra nice knowing that I am at peace with people of all races;

Why do I picture Ned Beatty?...

Please don't dent the planet.

Destinations by Roxanne

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Bignugget

...post racist statistics designed to inflame and incite, without taking into account the socio-economics, or any of another 40 factors that influence those numbers...

The term "racist statistics" is completely absurd. Statistics can be collected in an unsound manner by someone with alterior motives (i.e. they can be wrong.) Statistics can be interpreted in an invalid fashion to promote bigoted or otherwise nefarious agendas (i.e. they can be irrelevant.) But statistics can not be racist.

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champu

***...post racist statistics designed to inflame and incite, without taking into account the socio-economics, or any of another 40 factors that influence those numbers...

The term "racist statistics" is completely absurd. Statistics can be collected in an unsound manner by someone with alterior motives (i.e. they can be wrong.) Statistics can be interpreted in an invalid fashion to promote bigoted or otherwise nefarious agendas (i.e. they can be irrelevant.) But statistics can not be racist.

Thanks.

Whichever one of those this is....

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""Major Findings
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Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
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Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit mur-
der, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
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When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
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Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
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The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
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Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involv-
ing blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
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Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-
five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are
black.
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Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
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Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
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Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
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Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely" "

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Seems to describe you pretty well eh?

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Interesting you seem to know so much about me when you call me a racist. I lived in Dallas for 15 years. Around 10 of those years I was roommates with a black man. I suppose when you write my biography with all you know about me you forgot about that part.

Its whimsical how you are so quick to call someone else a racist but when black people murder whites its totally fine with you.


Im not sure.....but I dont think living with someone means you aren't racist....

Maybe the fact that you bring race into every conversation, and post racist statistics designed to inflame and incite, without taking into account the socio-economics, or any of another 40 factors that influence those numbers.....leads him to that conclusion.

again, I am not sure.

But I sure am sick of hearing about that damn WHITE baby being born in England. How many black babies are born every day in Africa? Where are my stories about them?!?


Yet al sharpton and jesse jackson doing the exact same thing you say I do is totally fine cause theyre liberal.

Fuck double standards.

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Yet al sharpton and jesse jackson doing the exact same thing you say I do is totally fine cause theyre liberal.

Um, everyone with any sense thinks Sharpton and Jackson are racists, regardless of political leanings.

- Dan G

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I recently checked into Al Sharpton and found that he is being investigated for 'money laundering' along with some 'rappers'. That clown is supposed to be a Christian Preacher? Bwa-hahahahahahahaha... If anything, he's a damned racist rabble rouser. Just stirrin'-up shit. He and that counterfeit Jesse Jackson need to be locked-up some where.


Chuck