freddysdaddy 0 #176 August 26, 2013 dmcoco84Fracking is Safe... Thank god! I allways thought, pressing chemicals in the ground will lead to chemicals in the ground Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #177 August 26, 2013 freddysdaddy Thank god! I allways thought, pressing chemicals in the ground will lead to chemicals in the ground HOLY FUCK! Even where nobody is doing Fracking - It appears that there are chemicals showing up. Quote Chemical composition See also: Abundance of elements on Earth The mass of the Earth is approximately 5.98×1024 kg. It is composed mostly of iron (32.1%), oxygen (30.1%), silicon (15.1%), magnesium (13.9%), sulfur (2.9%), nickel (1.8%), calcium (1.5%), and aluminium (1.4%); with the remaining 1.2% consisting of trace amounts of other elements. Due to mass segregation, the core region is believed to be primarily composed of iron (88.8%), with smaller amounts of nickel (5.8%), sulfur (4.5%), and less than 1% trace elements.[77] The geochemist F. W. Clarke calculated that a little more than 47% of the Earth's crust consists of oxygen. The more common rock constituents of the Earth's crust are nearly all oxides; chlorine, sulfur and fluorine are the only important exceptions to this and their total amount in any rock is usually much less than 1%. The principal oxides are silica, alumina, iron oxides, lime, magnesia, potash and soda. The silica functions principally as an acid, forming silicates, and all the commonest minerals of igneous rocks are of this nature. From a computation based on 1,672 analyses of all kinds of rocks, Clarke deduced that 99.22% were composed of 11 oxides (see the table at right), with the other constituents occurring in minute quantities.[78] I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richravizza 28 #178 August 27, 2013 quade***FACT = Fracking has been going on for 40 years Tech developments have just made it better recently Which means approximately nothing. Your "tech developments" and the word "better" are bullshit. "Better" for whom? Okay the oil companies' profits maybe, but certainly not the victims of their pollution. Naturalgas.org. Has studies from EPA showing we are the only nation reducing our Green house gas Emissions. WHY? US nat. gas, hydraulic fracking,3d seismic imaging,and Horizontal Drilling. Now, granted them trade secrets (scrary chemicals), will ensure the US has the Tech Development/Advantage.To grow stronger and cleaner in the future. THE THIRD CARBON Era, from coal, to Oil to nat gas not only ensures our security. IT HAS REVOLUTIONIZE THE USA,as a world leader/ supplier of the worlds, BRIDGE FUEL. Because its clean ,cheap,abundant and Domestic. The opportunity for a manufacturing renaissance is alive and well.Most chemicals,and oil derived materials will be replaced by Nat gas liquids, Again Cleaner, cheaper, domestic.High energy demand manufacturing will soon belong to the USA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #179 August 27, 2013 >Naturalgas.org. Has studies from EPA showing we are the only nation reducing our Green house gas Emissions. CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #180 August 27, 2013 billvon>Naturalgas.org. Has studies from EPA showing we are the only nation reducing our Green house gas Emissions. CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas. CO2 is not a polutant either"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #181 August 27, 2013 >CO2 is not a polutant either Hmm. Let's put you in a room with a tiny amount of it (say, only 5%) and see if you agree after a few minutes . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #182 August 27, 2013 billvon>CO2 is not a polutant either Hmm. Let's put you in a room with a tiny amount of it (say, only 5%) and see if you agree after a few minutes . . . .5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? I don't think so"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #183 August 27, 2013 rushmc***>CO2 is not a polutant either Hmm. Let's put you in a room with a tiny amount of it (say, only 5%) and see if you agree after a few minutes . . . .5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? I don't think so I dunno. You might want to ask the boys from Apollo 13 about it or anyone else ever trapped in an enclosed space.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #184 August 27, 2013 >5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #185 August 27, 2013 billvon>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.) Not talking a closed room and you know it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #186 August 27, 2013 >Not talking a closed room So you wouldn't want to be in a room with even a tiny concentration of CO2? That safe, nontoxic, nonpolluting substance? Even if you had oxygen? Hmm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #187 August 27, 2013 billvon>Not talking a closed room So you wouldn't want to be in a room with even a tiny concentration of CO2? That safe, nontoxic, nonpolluting substance? Even if you had oxygen? Hmm. You know it is very obvious you cant make the argument so you go off on a strange tangent like this CO2 is not a polutant HHHmmm all you want We are taking the environment That was the context of your post Never will there be 5% CO2 in the atmosphere but I do call you mr twister all the time"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #188 August 27, 2013 billvon>Not talking a closed room So you wouldn't want to be in a room with even a tiny concentration of CO2? That safe, nontoxic, nonpolluting substance? Even if you had oxygen? Hmm. how about a room with 100% 'safe' stuff? like oxygen, or even water, or bacon ok, not bacon ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #189 August 27, 2013 >ok, not bacon Why not? Only thing that's better than bacon is more bacon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #190 August 27, 2013 billvon>ok, not bacon Why not? Only thing that's better than bacon is more bacon. I'm not giving you a room full of bacon. . . . . my bacon ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #191 August 27, 2013 rushmc***>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.) Not talking a closed room and you know it So, you don't think the planet is a closed system? Let me assure you, it's a more closed system than most enclosed spaces you can name. My guess is it's a far better closed system than any spaceship we've ever launched.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #192 August 27, 2013 quade******>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.) Not talking a closed room and you know it So, you don't think the planet is a closed system? Let me assure you, it's a more closed system than most enclosed spaces you can name. My guess is it's a far better closed system than any spaceship we've ever launched. I didnt say that But is sure hell not a static closed system And as proven by the lack of the alarmists predictions coming true, how it works is far from known/understood A bit differnt than a closed room, I think anyway Oh and anymore, you cant assure me of anything. I know better"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #193 August 27, 2013 >I didnt say that >But is sure hell not a static closed system Neither is a sealed room with you inside. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #194 August 27, 2013 >I'm not giving you a room full of bacon. 5%. All I'm asking for is 5% of the room be full of bacon. But not near the TV please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #195 August 27, 2013 billvon >I didnt say that >But is sure hell not a static closed system Neither is a sealed room with you inside. Ya And it is alot like the environmentCome on Bill This is stretching even for you"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #196 August 27, 2013 quade******>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.) Not talking a closed room and you know it So, you don't think the planet is a closed system? Let me assure you, it's a more closed system than most enclosed spaces you can name. My guess is it's a far better closed system than any spaceship we've ever launched. Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar environmentaly, to our planet. I can understand why you buy into AGW alarmism Now it make sense"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,084 #197 August 27, 2013 >Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar >environmentaly, to our planet. I can understand why you buy into AGW alarmism Excellent way to twist and squirm out of answering that question. (I assumed you wouldn't be able to answer it.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #198 August 27, 2013 billvon >Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar >environmentaly, to our planet. I can understand why you buy into AGW alarmism Excellent way to twist and squirm out of answering that question. (I assumed you wouldn't be able to answer it.) Squirmed out of nothing but I learned a bit about you and quade today"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #199 August 27, 2013 rushmcNow that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar environmentaly, to our planet. Well, to a certain extent, it is. People have tried to build enclosed environments taking every consideration they can think of into account. Some might call that a model. What virtually all of them eventually find out is the balancing act to keep everything in stasis and as healthy as when things started is incredibly difficult. Just the smallest of things can eventually break the entire scheme of things. Try it yourself!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #200 August 27, 2013 quade***Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar environmentaly, to our planet. Well, to a certain extent, it is. People have tried to build enclosed environments taking every consideration they can think of into account. Some might call that a model. What virtually all of them eventually find out is the balancing act to keep everything in stasis and as healthy as when things started is incredibly difficult. Just the smallest of things can eventually break the entire scheme of things. Try it yourself! Yep they have Now the argument moves again But thanks I learn more about how you get your views on this every time you post in this thread Why Cause you equate a man made eco system (enclosed room) to the climate of this planet Nonsense Paul"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites