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Thank god! I allways thought, pressing chemicals in the ground will lead to chemicals in the ground



HOLY FUCK!

Even where nobody is doing Fracking - It appears that there are chemicals showing up.:o

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Chemical composition
See also: Abundance of elements on Earth
The mass of the Earth is approximately 5.98×1024 kg. It is composed mostly of iron (32.1%), oxygen (30.1%), silicon (15.1%), magnesium (13.9%), sulfur (2.9%), nickel (1.8%), calcium (1.5%), and aluminium (1.4%); with the remaining 1.2% consisting of trace amounts of other elements. Due to mass segregation, the core region is believed to be primarily composed of iron (88.8%), with smaller amounts of nickel (5.8%), sulfur (4.5%), and less than 1% trace elements.[77]
The geochemist F. W. Clarke calculated that a little more than 47% of the Earth's crust consists of oxygen. The more common rock constituents of the Earth's crust are nearly all oxides; chlorine, sulfur and fluorine are the only important exceptions to this and their total amount in any rock is usually much less than 1%. The principal oxides are silica, alumina, iron oxides, lime, magnesia, potash and soda. The silica functions principally as an acid, forming silicates, and all the commonest minerals of igneous rocks are of this nature. From a computation based on 1,672 analyses of all kinds of rocks, Clarke deduced that 99.22% were composed of 11 oxides (see the table at right), with the other constituents occurring in minute quantities.[78]


I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
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quade

***FACT = Fracking has been going on for 40 years
Tech developments have just made it better recently



Which means approximately nothing.

Your "tech developments" and the word "better" are bullshit. "Better" for whom? Okay the oil companies' profits maybe, but certainly not the victims of their pollution.
Naturalgas.org. Has studies from EPA showing we are the only nation reducing our Green house gas Emissions.
WHY? US nat. gas, hydraulic fracking,3d seismic imaging,and Horizontal Drilling.
Now, granted them trade secrets (scrary chemicals), will ensure the US has the Tech Development/Advantage.To grow stronger and cleaner in the future.
THE THIRD CARBON Era, from coal, to Oil to nat gas not only ensures our security.
IT HAS REVOLUTIONIZE THE USA,as a world leader/ supplier of the worlds, BRIDGE FUEL.
Because its clean ,cheap,abundant and Domestic.
The opportunity for a manufacturing renaissance is alive and well.Most chemicals,and oil derived materials will be replaced by Nat gas liquids, Again Cleaner, cheaper, domestic.High energy demand manufacturing will soon belong to the USA.

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billvon

>Naturalgas.org. Has studies from EPA showing we are the only nation reducing our Green house gas Emissions.

CO2 is not the only greenhouse gas.



CO2 is not a polutant either
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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billvon

>CO2 is not a polutant either

Hmm. Let's put you in a room with a tiny amount of it (say, only 5%) and see if you agree after a few minutes . . . .

5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? I don't think so
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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rushmc

***>CO2 is not a polutant either
Hmm. Let's put you in a room with a tiny amount of it (say, only 5%) and see if you agree after a few minutes . . . .

5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way? I don't think so

I dunno. You might want to ask the boys from Apollo 13 about it or anyone else ever trapped in an enclosed space.
quade -
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>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way?

Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.)



Not talking a closed room
and you know it
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Not talking a closed room

So you wouldn't want to be in a room with even a tiny concentration of CO2? That safe, nontoxic, nonpolluting substance? Even if you had oxygen? Hmm.



You know it is very obvious you cant make the argument so you go off on a strange tangent like this

CO2 is not a polutant

HHHmmm all you want
We are taking the environment
That was the context of your post
Never will there be 5% CO2 in the atmosphere

but I do call you mr twister all the time
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Not talking a closed room

So you wouldn't want to be in a room with even a tiny concentration of CO2? That safe, nontoxic, nonpolluting substance? Even if you had oxygen? Hmm.



how about a room with 100% 'safe' stuff?

like oxygen, or even water, or bacon

ok, not bacon

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>ok, not bacon

Why not? Only thing that's better than bacon is more bacon.



I'm not giving you a room full of bacon.
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my bacon

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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***>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way?
Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.)


Not talking a closed room and you know it

So, you don't think the planet is a closed system?

Let me assure you, it's a more closed system than most enclosed spaces you can name. My guess is it's a far better closed system than any spaceship we've ever launched.
quade -
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******>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way?
Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.)


Not talking a closed room and you know it

So, you don't think the planet is a closed system?

Let me assure you, it's a more closed system than most enclosed spaces you can name. My guess is it's a far better closed system than any spaceship we've ever launched.

I didnt say that
But is sure hell not a static closed system
And as proven by the lack of the alarmists predictions coming true, how it works is far from known/understood
A bit differnt than a closed room, I think anyway

Oh
and anymore, you cant assure me of anything. I know better
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>I didnt say that
>But is sure hell not a static closed system

Neither is a sealed room with you inside.



Ya
And it is alot like the environment:S

Come on Bill
This is stretching even for you
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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quade

******>5% any chance of that happening naturaly OR any other way?
Sure. Just put you in a sealed room. (We'd give you oxygen of course.)


Not talking a closed room and you know it

So, you don't think the planet is a closed system?

Let me assure you, it's a more closed system than most enclosed spaces you can name. My guess is it's a far better closed system than any spaceship we've ever launched.

Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar environmentaly, to our planet. I can understand why you buy into AGW alarmism

Now it make sense
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar
>environmentaly, to our planet. I can understand why you buy into AGW alarmism

Excellent way to twist and squirm out of answering that question. (I assumed you wouldn't be able to answer it.)

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>Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar
>environmentaly, to our planet. I can understand why you buy into AGW alarmism

Excellent way to twist and squirm out of answering that question. (I assumed you wouldn't be able to answer it.)



:D
Squirmed out of nothing
:D

but I learned a bit about you and quade today
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar environmentaly, to our planet.



Well, to a certain extent, it is.

People have tried to build enclosed environments taking every consideration they can think of into account. Some might call that a model. What virtually all of them eventually find out is the balancing act to keep everything in stasis and as healthy as when things started is incredibly difficult. Just the smallest of things can eventually break the entire scheme of things.

Try it yourself!
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quade

***Now that I know you believe that a closed room with a person in it, is similar environmentaly, to our planet.



Well, to a certain extent, it is.

People have tried to build enclosed environments taking every consideration they can think of into account. Some might call that a model. What virtually all of them eventually find out is the balancing act to keep everything in stasis and as healthy as when things started is incredibly difficult. Just the smallest of things can eventually break the entire scheme of things.

Try it yourself!

Yep they have
Now the argument moves again

But thanks
I learn more about how you get your views on this every time you post in this thread

Why
Cause you equate a man made eco system (enclosed room) to the climate of this planet
Nonsense Paul
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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