dmcoco84 5 #1 July 21, 2013 Fracking is Safe... ...yeah, no shit Sherlock. Landmark Federal Study Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #2 July 21, 2013 dmcoco84Fracking is Safe... ...yeah, no shit Sherlock. Landmark Federal Study It wouldn't matter if Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, Obama, AND AL Gore, the inventer of the internet, produced that study . . . It will never be good enough. The media doesn't want the controversy to go away.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 July 21, 2013 Just answer one question. If you can, then maybe we can settle this once and for all. What are all the chemicals are in fracking fluid?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #4 July 21, 2013 quadeJust answer one question. If you can, then maybe we can settle this once and for all. What are all the chemicals are in fracking fluid? 2% Skeet Skeet 98% Bull Shit; Climate Change Looking forward to the USA becoming the Saudi Arabia of Natural Gas... while laughing at all the climate change idiocy of wanting everything changed over to NG; when its still a hydrocarbon, and is in no way clean, nor "cleaner" to the point that it would make any difference if man made climate change were not utter bull shit; instead of what it is, a tool of power and control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 July 21, 2013 So, your answer is, you don't actually know what is in fracking fluid. So, how can you possibly say it's "safe"?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #6 July 21, 2013 dmcoco84***Just answer one question. If you can, then maybe we can settle this once and for all. What are all the chemicals are in fracking fluid? 2% Skeet Skeet 98% Bull Shit; Climate Change Looking forward to the USA becoming the Saudi Arabia of Natural Gas... while laughing at all the climate change idiocy of wanting everything changed over to NG; when its still a hydrocarbon, and is in no way clean, nor "cleaner" to the point that it would make any difference if man made climate change were not utter bull shit; instead of what it is, a tool of power and control. Meanwhile virtually every climate scientist will think you're an idiot. But I guess they're all just in on the scam. What's your scientific background again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #7 July 21, 2013 It's a little bit more than ironic that the Right is citing a federal study, I was under the impression that the whole federal government was no more than a bunch of lap dogs for their evil master Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #8 July 21, 2013 QuoteWhat's your scientific background again? I'm a Paramedic who takes people at their word... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bh3jWqiUw0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #9 July 21, 2013 quadeSo, your answer is, you don't actually know what is in fracking fluid. So, how can you possibly say it's "safe"? Such Arrogance... while you clearly didn't read what the study was even about. While continuing to edit every post you make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #10 July 21, 2013 jclalorIt's a little bit more than ironic that the Right is citing a federal study, I was under the impression that the whole federal government was no more than a bunch of lap dogs for their evil master Obama. First off... I'm not on the Right. However, nor does the "Right" even exist, as I've spoken about in depth in the past; we are not Europe; power, not party. Secondly... Bush and Obama are the same thing; one is just on speed and pcp. I've been very clear on that as well. Finally... if you actually read the story, this is the first time the federal government has been allowed to do what they did; where from the findings, it wouldn't matter if they were injecting HIV contaminated Skeet Skeet instead... it is no where near any water sources. I like this line as well... "That means the potentially dangerous substances stayed about a mile away from drinking water supplies." "The study done by the National Energy Technology Laboratory in Pittsburgh marked the first time that a drilling company let government scientists inject special tracers into the fracking fluid and then continue regular monitoring to see whether it spread toward drinking water sources." Soooooooooooo, arrogant questions like Quade has yet again tried to present, after editing every post he makes, is inconsequential. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #11 July 21, 2013 I never mentioned you, I was only referring to the fact that the blaze will post some of the craziest of crazy conspiracy theory's, always centered on how the government is never to be trusted and are the reasons behind every problem. Now when the federal Government miraculously supports one of their positions, they take off running and spike the football. BTW, I totally support fracking, the sooner we get natural gas up and running and the auto industry converts, we can tell OPEC to fuck off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #12 July 21, 2013 Quote BTW, I totally support fracking Well that's good. QuoteI was only referring to the fact that the blaze will post some of the craziest of crazy conspiracy theory's, always centered on how the government is never to be trusted and are the reasons behind every problem. But this is bull shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #13 July 21, 2013 Quote***I was only referring to the fact that the blaze will post some of the craziest of crazy conspiracy theory's, always centered on how the government is never to be trusted and are the reasons behind every problem. But this is bull shit. Two words; Glen Beck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #14 July 21, 2013 QuoteTwo words; Glen Beck. Two more words; Bull Shit. Make some threads, I call... Bull Shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #15 July 21, 2013 now, it sounds to me like you believe this study and that you support fracking. am i right? if so, you are already too far down the rabbit hole for me or anyone else to help you. have you any idea of the scale of geological time? it works in millenia, not years. and it doesn't really matter what the specific gravity of these chemical (which no one can even name here) is, geology will ensure that they continue to rise. when they rise to the water table, whoever is left around at the time depending on water is well and truly fucked. and they will probably attribute it to natural causes, since we will be long gone and fracking will be forgotten. and that is the "safe" assumption. it could happen in a hundred years or less, in which case our grandchildren will be the ones who are fucked. i prefer to stay on the safe side of things, you know, not dumping chemicals into the earth. there are too many alternatives right now to fossil fuels._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,486 #16 July 21, 2013 quadeJust answer one question. If you can, then maybe we can settle this once and for all. What are all the chemicals are in fracking fluid? Here's the list: http://fracfocus.org/chemical-use/what-chemicals-are-used Here's one of many EPA studies on the subject: http://www2.epa.gov/hfstudy/hydraulic-fracturing-water-cycle There is an on-going and continuing study of the "Plan to Study the Potential Impacts of Hydraulic Fracturing on Drinking Water Resources." And, while Oklahoma has been "Frac'ing" since the 1950's, we are just now starting to see some of the "other" effects such as earthquakes... http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/03/130329-wastewater-injection-likely-caused-quake/ Now, on top of "just" the chemical and groundwater issue; we have to take it a step further... If we look at the New Madrid Fault Line coupled with that of a fracking well location map, the question really becomes, "Is the New Madrid Mega Quake Being Engineered?" So, we are left with three equally disparate views; one of self-reliance, one of reliance on foreign resources and one of embarking on new energies. My position on the matter is that we have the ability to migrate towards new and sustainable energy, but in virtually all cases; the need for impact studies and a scientific methodology as we move towards self-reliance. Again, this is not a left or right issue.. this is a "We" issue. Oklahoma being one of the best areas for case studies on what "may" happen sixty years from now. We have the ability to look back and project forward... let's use that.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #17 July 21, 2013 Good to see you trusting the Federal government 100%. Never question them! They are always right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #18 July 21, 2013 billvonGood to see you trusting the Federal government 100%. Never question them! They are always right. What can I say Bill, I just Love Our Democracy, THAT, Much! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #19 July 21, 2013 Quotethere are too many alternatives right now to fossil fuels. Sure, if you are delusional. We'll be there one day; but that day is not today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #20 July 21, 2013 and why do you think we're not there today? maybe because they are expensive? tough shit. the reason it's expensive is the subsidies are in the wrong places. too much money getting thrown at oil companies. if they would tax them properly and use the resulting money to go into a r&d fund, we would be oil free soon. they're talking about new 2d materials making solar panels cheaper, all kinds of new stuff going on. just needs some more development. hell, if i ever get the time and money at the same time i'll build a prototype of my new vehicle and patent it. it will totally release the world from oil dependency._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #21 July 22, 2013 skinnay******Just answer one question. If you can, then maybe we can settle this once and for all. What are all the chemicals are in fracking fluid? 2% Skeet Skeet 98% Bull Shit; Climate Change Looking forward to the USA becoming the Saudi Arabia of Natural Gas... while laughing at all the climate change idiocy of wanting everything changed over to NG; when its still a hydrocarbon, and is in no way clean, nor "cleaner" to the point that it would make any difference if man made climate change were not utter bull shit; instead of what it is, a tool of power and control. Meanwhile virtually every climate scientist will think you're an idiot. But I guess they're all just in on the scam. What's your scientific background again? So exactly what is YOUR scientific background to disprove his claim? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #22 July 22, 2013 sfzombie13and why do you think we're not there today? maybe because they are expensive? tough shit. the reason it's expensive is the subsidies are in the wrong places. too much money getting thrown at oil companies. if they would tax them properly and use the resulting money to go into a r&d fund, we would be oil free soon. they're talking about new 2d materials making solar panels cheaper, all kinds of new stuff going on. just needs some more development. hell, if i ever get the time and money at the same time i'll build a prototype of my new vehicle and patent it. it will totally release the world from oil dependency. Thank you for these low information voter statements; further showing the need to repeal the 17th amendment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #23 July 22, 2013 wow. i feel for you dude._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #24 July 23, 2013 Quote***I was only referring to the fact that the blaze will post some of the craziest of crazy conspiracy theory's, But this is bull shit. You find any of the crazy conspiracy theory's yet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #25 July 23, 2013 billvon Good to see you trusting the Federal government 100%. Never question them! They are always right. Well duh.... Obama is in charge. I trust everything the government does..."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
