Kennedy 0 #1 July 7, 2013 QuoteJalisco Police chief killed with rifle "lost" in Project Gunwalker Luis Lucio Rosales Astorga, the police chief in the city of Hostotipaquillo, was shot to death Jan. 29 when gunmen intercepted his patrol car and opened fire. Also killed was one of his bodyguards. His wife and a second bodyguard were wounded. Local authorities said eight suspects in their 20s and 30s were arrested after police seized them nearby with a cache of weapons — rifles, grenades, handguns, helmets, bulletproof vests, uniforms and special communications equipment. The area is a hot zone for rival drug gangs, with members of three cartels fighting over turf in the region. A semi-automatic WASR rifle, the firearm that killed the chief, was traced back to the Lone Wolf Trading Company, a gun store in Glendale, Ariz. The notation on the Department of Justice trace records said the WASR was used in a “HOMICIDE – WILLFUL – KILL –PUB OFF –GUN” –ATF code for “Homicide, Willful Killing of a Public Official, Gun.” Hundreds of firearms were lost in the Fast and Furious operation. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed illegal purchasers to buy the firearms at the Lone Wolf store in the Phoenix suburb and other gun shops in hopes of tracing them to Mexican cartel leaders. The WASR used in Jalisco was purchased on Feb. 22, 2010, about three months into the Fast and Furious operation, by 26-year-old Jacob A. Montelongo of Phoenix. He later pleaded guilty to conspiracy, making false statements and smuggling goods from the United States and was sentenced to 41 months in prison. snip Well, I guess project gun runner worked out just how BATFE wanted. Let known scum buy pistols and rifles, don't track them, let the rifles cross the border without surveillance, and then watch where they turn up in crimes. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #2 July 7, 2013 Clearly the problem is too few guns. If Fast and Furious had just supplied more guns this problem could have been avoided. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #3 July 7, 2013 billvonClearly the problem is too few guns. If Fast and Furious had just supplied more guns this problem could have been avoided. Moderators aren't supposed to Troll.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #4 July 7, 2013 PiLFy ***Clearly the problem is too few guns. If Fast and Furious had just supplied more guns this problem could have been avoided. Moderators aren't supposed to Troll.... You're new here aren't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #5 July 7, 2013 billvonClearly the problem is too few guns. If Fast and Furious had just supplied more guns this problem could have been avoided. Mexico should just require background checks. That will solve the problem. If that doesn't work, they should just ban all guns. Just look at how well making drugs illegal has worked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #6 July 7, 2013 Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #7 July 7, 2013 [I]"You're new here aren't you? " The rules are the rules. To be followed by most, & flagrantly ignored by others.... Good thing we've got Mods to keep everyone honest, huh?? No, nothing new here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 July 7, 2013 PiLFy [I]"You're new here aren't you? " The rules are the rules. To be followed by most, & flagrantly ignored by others.... Good thing we've got Mods to keep everyone honest, huh?? No, nothing new here. Oh, if you only knew!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #9 July 7, 2013 [I]"Oh, if you only knew!! " I do. That's why I rarely bother checking in, anymore.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #10 July 7, 2013 QuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 July 7, 2013 jakeeQuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Why do you care? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #12 July 7, 2013 I really don't see a down side here, a cop and a beaner.blues jerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #13 July 7, 2013 jakeeQuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Not that I care, and never mind that such an open-ended interpretation of this rule would result in tons of people getting warned/banned because it basically prohibits scathing sarcasm, but here's the language in the rules... QuoteNo Personal attacks, Flaming and Trolling. Personal attacks and hate posts will not be tolerated in any forum. Personal attacks on another user are a great way to earn some time off, as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling). He's mocking people that have argued in other situations that more people with concealed carry permits carrying firearms would help reduce gun violence. Whether it's specifically to provoke a negative response or just incidentally to provoke a negative response is always debatable though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #14 July 7, 2013 b1jercat I really don't see a down side here, a cop and a beaner.blues jerry You want to clarify that before I tell you what it sounds like? If its a joke it isn't funny. If its not, it's worse.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #15 July 7, 2013 Yet it's generally accepted for cops to have this very attitude towards others. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #16 July 7, 2013 Gravitymaster***QuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Why do you care? What fuck do you give why I care? You replied to the same comment, why do you care?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #17 July 8, 2013 jakee******QuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Why do you care? What fuck do you give why I care? You replied to the same comment, why do you care? I don't. Why should I? He's a Mod, he can do whatever he wants with no repercussions. So again, why do you care? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #18 July 8, 2013 Gravitymaster*********QuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Why do you care? What fuck do you give why I care? You replied to the same comment, why do you care? I don't. Why should I? He's a Mod, he can do whatever he wants with no repercussions. So again, why do you care? Why do you care if or why I care? Why don't you care why the guy that brought it up in the first place cares? Why did you care enough to reply to him if you don't care about the subject of his post? You're a man of mystery.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 July 8, 2013 jakee************QuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Why do you care? What fuck do you give why I care? You replied to the same comment, why do you care? I don't. Why should I? He's a Mod, he can do whatever he wants with no repercussions. So again, why do you care? Why do you care if or why I care? Why don't you care why the guy that brought it up in the first place cares? Why did you care enough to reply to him if you don't care about the subject of his post? You're a man of mystery. You can't accept that Mods can do whatever they want? How long have you been posting here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 3 #20 July 8, 2013 jakeeQuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Try to pay attention, Jakee. It's right there in the original post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #21 July 8, 2013 Gravitymaster***************QuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Why do you care? What fuck do you give why I care? ... why do you care? I don't. Why should I? ... So again, why do you care? Why do you care if or why I care? How long have you been posting here? Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #22 July 8, 2013 PiLFy *** Quote The rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Try to pay attention, Jakee. It's right there in the original post. He's a little slow sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #23 July 8, 2013 normiss ******I really don't see a down side here, a cop and a beaner.blues jerry You want to clarify that before I tell you what it sounds like? If its a joke it isn't funny. If its not, it's worse. Yet it's generally accepted for cops to have this very attitude towards others. It's not acceptable for a cop or anyone else to be a racist. Being happy that someone has been killed by criminals is also generally considered a fucked up perspective regardless of employment.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #24 July 8, 2013 PiLFy***QuoteThe rules are the rules. Which one did he break? Try to pay attention, Jakee. It's right there in the original post. No, it really wasn't. Would his comment have been acceptable from someone that wasn't a mod? If yes, what rule prevents a mod from saying it, if no, what rule prevents normal poster's from saying it?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #25 July 8, 2013 QuoteYou can't accept that Mods can do whatever they want? Non-sequitur, I didn't reply to any such comment. It's a little early in the thread for you to lose the plot (but only a little). I replied to Pilfy. Why do you care what I have to say to him? You can't accept that anyone can reply to a comment on a public forum?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
