Obama admits Obamacare sux.

[airdvr 210]

Administration delays key ObamaCare insurance mandate

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/02/administration-delays-key-obamacare-insurance-mandate/

I believe the following statement is at the crux of the decision....

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It's also a cynical political ploy to delay the coming train wreck associated with ObamaCare until after the 2014 elections

Please don't dent the planet.

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[kelpdiver 2]

airdvr

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It's also a cynical political ploy to delay the coming train wreck associated with ObamaCare until after the 2014 elections

The fault in this analysis is that the 2016 election is much more critical than the 2014 one. The delay pretty much sets up the mandate as the #1 issue when the GOP candidates are living in Iowa.

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kelpdiver

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It's also a cynical political ploy to delay the coming train wreck associated with ObamaCare until after the 2014 elections

The fault in this analysis is that the 2016 election is much more critical than the 2014 one. The delay pretty much sets up the mandate as the #1 issue when the GOP candidates are living in Iowa.

Don't you love how they like to play games with our lives?

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[kallend 2,146]

Obamacare does suck, but not as much as what we had before.

What we really need is a single payer system.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Bertt 0]

Not if it's delayed again. One step at a time, young Jedi.

edited to add: Every post in this thread ( with the possible exception of this one) is spot on.
Y'all should get an award.

You don't have to outrun the bear.

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If the law reads 2014 then only the congress should be able to change the date with an admendment to the law. But I understand what the meaning of is is.

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wayneflorida

If the law reads 2014 then only the congress should be able to change the date with an admendment to the law. But I understand what the meaning of is is.

But its Obama . .. he has the almighty on his side.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

***If the law reads 2014 then only the congress should be able to change the date with an admendment to the law. But I understand what the meaning of is is.

But its Obama . .. he has the almighty on his side.

I would comment on the almighty thing but they are watching me.

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wayneflorida

If the law reads 2014 then only the congress should be able to change the date with an admendment to the law. But I understand what the meaning of is is.

I picked up on that as well. The article says congress is out of session and the 'Administration' has delayed implementation of the provision of the law. Not sure how that works unless congress placed all power into the hands of an agency under the President.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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turtlespeed

***If the law reads 2014 then only the congress should be able to change the date with an admendment to the law. But I understand what the meaning of is is.

But its Obama . .. he has the almighty on his side.

Chuck Norris?

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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davjohns

******If the law reads 2014 then only the congress should be able to change the date with an admendment to the law. But I understand what the meaning of is is.

But its Obama . .. he has the almighty on his side.

Chuck Norris?

Michael Jackson.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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kallend

Obamacare does suck, but not as much as what we had before.

It sucks less for people ineligible for group plans where one or more of the following applies:

1. They have pre-existing conditions

2. They're poor but not poor enough for Medicaid

3. They're old but not old enough for Medicare

It might suck less for the low wage job workers moving into the job openings which result when employers replace 3 40 hour/week positions with 4 30 hour/week positions.

It sucks more for

1. 40 hour per week employees whose hours are cut below 30 so their employer doesn't need to pay a $2000 penalty.

2. Young people who must be charged at least 1/3 of what old people pay.

3. People who'd otherwise opt for low cost plans with routine maintenance paid out of pocket

4. People who will pay more where the insurance companies (who are exempt from Federal anti-trust laws and have contractually neutered state laws on that matter) must increase expenditures to increase profits (they're allowed at most a 25% markup).

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What we really need is a single payer system.

The other OECD governments all spend less on heath care than ours does although usually that implies universal insurance for everybody not just the 25% of the population which is too poor or old to be profitable for private industry.

[airdvr 210]

Union Bosses: 'ObamaCare Will Destroy Health of Americans'

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/07/13/union-bosses-say-obamacare-will-destroy-health-americans#ixzz2Ywk3PKbk

Even the unions think it sucks. Bizarro Hoffa.

Please don't dent the planet.

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Some of us have called this the cluster fuck what it is from the beginning. Glad to see the Unions are starting to wise ip . I wonder how long it will take for some of our resident Hopium advocates to wake the fuck up?

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kallend

Obamacare does suck, but not as much as what we had before.

What we really need is a single payer system.

Because before we had less costly insurance, more doctors, and more jobs. I totally see your point.

You stop breathing for a few minutes and everyone jumps to conclusions.