skypuppy 1 #26 July 2, 2013 Stumpy*** Yeah? It's my country, he's just visiting to play a game. And investing millions of pounds - but then, if you don't need the economic activity, feel free to buy him out... I probably have an awful lot more invested in the US than most people here. Does that make my opinion more relevant? ETA - quoting functionality seems broken. That would depend on what your investment is, what you disagree with here, and whether you're willing to do anything about it. Ultimately you (and Trump in the original post) have the ability to walk away and take whatever money you can get for your investments out. And that is perfectly justified.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,577 #27 July 2, 2013 Quoteand the increased costs of power cause businesses to close or move to cheaper power jurisdictions. That's not how it works here. Given your logic, since you haven't invested here, don't live here and haven't learned anything about it... where does your right to have an opinion come from?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #28 July 2, 2013 turtlespeed*********They will be a mile and a half out to sea. Very little sympathy for trump for a couple of reasons. 1. He's an idiot. 2. as someone else said, he's basically just a nimby, which is especially ironic given he doesn't even live there. I have wind turbines about as far away from me as is being proposed here, and you basically don't even see them, let alone hear them. . . . and you are so much more intelligent and show that by your success that out shines the Don, right? They're measuring intelligence by money in the bank now? Seems pretty simple to me. If you were intelligent enough to ridicule him, it seems you would be intelligent enough to compete financially with him. Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie, Lindsay Lohan, the Kardashians, Justin Bieber, Larry the cable guy, and plenty of other idiots have a lot more money and toys than you or I. That doesn't necessarily make them smarter than you or I. However, take note that I called Trump an asshole and a blowhard. I did not call him an idiot. My point is the ability to leverage your assets into material gain is not an indicator of intelligence or quality if life.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #29 July 2, 2013 skypuppy Trumps resort would increase jobs in construction, maintenance and tourism for a much longer period than the supposed wind farm would. It would also cause a considerable level of pollution (golf course care requires lots of chemicals) for very low utilization. Meanwhile, the wind farm removes a small level of pollution. And of course, there's no reason why it's one or the other, save that Trump would like to force that choice, using reasons that are mostly bullshit (again, how the fuck are these blades going to kill marine mammals?). He's the kind of asshole you give an inch to, he'll demand a mile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #30 July 2, 2013 kelpdiver And of course, there's no reason why it's one or the other, save that Trump would like to force that choice, using reasons that are mostly bullshit (again, how the fuck are these blades going to kill marine mammals?). He's the kind of asshole you give an inch to, he'll take a mile, demand an AU, and say you should be grateful it isn't a light year. FIFYwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #31 July 3, 2013 jakee *** Yeah? It's my country, he's just visiting to play a game. And investing millions of pounds - but then, if you don't need the economic activity, feel free to buy him out... And that gives him more right to make him opinions heard than someone who doesn't have millions of pounds*? And what about the economic activity involved in the wind farm? The investment in Scottish energy companies isn't important? * In reality, yes. Money does buys influence. But the right, democratically and morally? Why don't you ask Ted Turner his opinion on that.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #32 July 3, 2013 jakeeQuoteand the increased costs of power cause businesses to close or move to cheaper power jurisdictions. That's not how it works here. Given your logic, since you haven't invested here, don't live here and haven't learned anything about it... where does your right to have an opinion come from? In actual fact, that's how it works everywhere. Look at the rock stars that moved their offices to the continent over taxes. Look at the economies in Spain and elsewhere. Look at the industries setting up in China and India. As for the opinion thing. That's the whole thing with you lefties - NOBODY has a right to an opinion except you - or maybe if someone else agrees with you, they can have one...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #33 July 3, 2013 >hat's the whole thing with you lefties - NOBODY has a right to an opinion except you . . . From before: "Yeah? It's my country, he's just visiting to play a game. " Looks like you've become a lefty! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #34 July 3, 2013 billvon>hat's the whole thing with you lefties - NOBODY has a right to an opinion except you . . . From before: "Yeah? It's my country, he's just visiting to play a game. " Looks like you've become a lefty! I never said Jakee didn't get to have an opinion on windmills. But so does Trump. And so do you. And so do I. If I'm not involved in britain, obviously the politicians there will probably not pay much attention to me, however, if I'm willing to invest a large amount of money there, they may. If I'm willing to invest and they don't consider my opinion, it is my right to withdraw my investment, subject to whatever penalty or escape clauses which may have been in the contract. I repeat, I never said Jakee didn't have a right to an opinion. But his is one of many.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,577 #35 July 3, 2013 QuoteAs for the opinion thing. That's the whole thing with you lefties - NOBODY has a right to an opinion except you - or maybe if someone else agrees with you, they can have one... No, you just made that up. You did make quite clear though that to you righties, no-one is allowed to have an opinion unless they can pay for it. Which is a pretty nasty way of thinking, really.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,577 #36 July 3, 2013 QuoteI repeat, I never said Jakee didn't have a right to an opinion. Oh I do apologise. You only said I had less right to an opinion than someone who has more money. Obviously that's totally hunky-dory.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #37 July 3, 2013 jakeeQuoteI repeat, I never said Jakee didn't have a right to an opinion. Oh I do apologise. You only said I had less right to an opinion than someone who has more money. Obviously that's totally hunky-dory. I didn't say that at all. I said Trump has the right to pull out his money if they don't listen to him. You also have the right to move if they don't listen to you. I guess we'll watch and see.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,577 #38 July 3, 2013 skypuppyI didn't say that at all. I said Trump has the right to pull out his money if they don't listen to him. You must be getting old. You did say that, but you didn't say only that. Look into my crystal ball..... "as far as I'm concerned he has as much if not more right to fight these wind turbines as anyone else has to support them."Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #39 July 4, 2013 jakeeQuoteI repeat, I never said Jakee didn't have a right to an opinion. Oh I do apologise. You only said I had less right to an opinion than someone who has more money. Obviously that's totally hunky-dory. Its not about opinions and the right to them, its more about critiquing one as an idiot. I would think that is akin to a homeless person in Uganda criticizing you as an idiot.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
