twatterpilot 0 #301 July 3, 2013 kallend Isn't this a great thread. It has revealed clearly who the BIGOTS are. Can't debate with sound reason, so resorts to name calling. I wouldn't expect anything less.Airline Transport Pilot, Multi-Engine Land, DHC-8 Commercial Multi-Engine Sea, Single Engine Land Private Glider Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #302 July 3, 2013 billvon>Nope, it makes you celibate. It also does not make you gay. Being gay or straight is not a decision you make on who to sleep with; it is programming you come with to make you want to do one of those two things. In other words, there are not three orientations (gay, straight or celibate) there are two orientation axes (gay to straight) and two decision axes (celibate to promiscuous.) You could also add "asexual" to that I guess - someone who is not attracted to anyone. Wait a minute here, you fail to mention Bisexuals. Which I believe hurts your polygamy argument. How can we deny the rights of Bisexuals to "Marry" the loves of their lives? Fred (Gay) loves Shaggy (Bi) who also loves both Fred (Gay) and Thelma (Bi). So Shaggy should be, in the opinion of the Gay rights proponents, able to Marry both Thelma and Fred. ETA: Here is a way to fix that: Thelma Marries Shaggy, and Shaggy enters into a Civil Union with Fred. Problem Solved.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #303 July 3, 2013 Quote Someone said earlier, [paraphrase]It doesn't matter what rights you give them, it will never be enough until they can say the word "Married". THAT is a social issue, not legal, and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with benefits and rights. I think I would agree with you, except that legally that is still separate yet equal if you are not allowing them the use of the legal definition of their relationship like everybody else. So, it technically does deal with rights still Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #304 July 3, 2013 There are two kinds of sex. One is moral sex as ordained by God. The other is immoral sex as initiated by Satan. Moral sex is between a male husband and a female wife. Immoral sex includes many varieties such as those below. Fornication either heterosexual or homosexual. Adultery either heterosexual or homosexual. Of these types heterosexual is natural and homosexual is perverted. Perverted meaning it is contrary to the natural behavior of procreation. Perverted sex takes in other classifications such as pedophilia, necromancy and bestiality to name a few. With SCOTUS overturning DOMA, immoral perverted sex, as a general classification, is given equal status to moral sex. This decision came about due to social pressure from growing unrest within our society. About a year ago I stated I would no longer argue the right or wrong of homosexuality because I realized the trend cannot be reversed. Our culture is sliding further into the spiral of decadence. It is this trending throughout the world that will continue and usher in the fulfillment of the end time Biblical prophecy. War in the Mideast is another major indicator as well. As Billy Graham stated, you can hear the sound of the approaching hoof beats.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #305 July 3, 2013 QuoteSomeone said earlier, [paraphrase]It doesn't matter what rights you give them, it will never be enough until they can say the word "Married". THAT is a social issue, not legal, and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with benefits and rights. Let's assume you live about 30 miles from the DZ. You can get there by driving the most direct route (about 30 miles), but you could also get there (eventually) by heading in the opposite direction and traveling roughly 24,000 miles, across mountains, over oceans, etc. Suppose a law was passed that said that green skinned people with shells could not go directly to the DZ. The law doesn't ban them from the DZ, it only says they have to take the 24,000 mile route to get there. They can still skydive any time they want, the law doesn't restrict that, it just says they have to travel the long way around to get there. How likely do you think it is that they will ever be able to skydive? Over 1,000 laws, rules, and regulations refer to "marriage". Every one would have to be amended, voted on by Congress, and passed in order for "civil unions" to have the same effect as "marriage". This is the 24,000 mile route. Recognizing same-sex unions as a "marriage" involves one law in each State, the 30-mile route. I suspect you would be quite unhappy if you were singled out to have to travel 24,000 miles to get to the DZ. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 379 #306 July 3, 2013 Speaking of Biblical mythology, I hope you don't get flooded out in your North Georgia Mountains enclave. We're supposed to get up to 4 inching of rain in the next day or so. Keep yourself safe. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #307 July 3, 2013 RonD1120***It has nothing to do with opinion. You're wrong. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6519#.UdO1Sr4o7IU http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20050128/is-there-gay-gene http://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/3641 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17904267%2C16143171%2C12836730%2C10763427%2C9549243?dopt=DocSum Makes a good case for pro-choice, does it not? Wow. I've been around dz.com a while, is this is one of the most disgusting thing I've read here.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #308 July 3, 2013 GeorgiaDonSpeaking of Biblical mythology, I hope you don't get flooded out in your North Georgia Mountains enclave. We're supposed to get up to 4 inching of rain in the next day or so. Keep yourself safe. Don Thanks, I'm on the high ground.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #309 July 3, 2013 RonD1120***Speaking of Biblical mythology, I hope you don't get flooded out in your North Georgia Mountains enclave. We're supposed to get up to 4 inching of rain in the next day or so. Keep yourself safe. Don Thanks, I'm on the high ground. Yeah, about that: no.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #310 July 3, 2013 RonD1120 Perverted sex takes in other classifications such as pedophilia, necromancy and bestiality to name a few. I hope that's an open list; I've never had any of those kinds of sex, but I've definately had perverted sex! Quote With SCOTUS overturning DOMA, immoral perverted sex, as a general classification, is given equal status to moral sex. The case has nothing to do with sex. It only addresses whether or not same sex couples get the same tax break as heterosexual couples. No one actually has to get buttfucked (unless they want to - lube presumably is optional though I'm given to understand that provides significant assistance). In keeping with equality, any buttfucking, if said buttfucking were to take place, is without reference generally to the gender and/or sexuality of either buttfucker or buttfuckee. IE, "moral sex" between man and wife can, under the law at least, include buttfucking if the parties mutually consent to the same, (though I understand He has something to say about that also). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #311 July 3, 2013 Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #312 July 3, 2013 QuoteMarriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. I hope he gives me a 10, but I doubt that I'll rate. I'm a lot less flexible that I was when I was young.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #313 July 3, 2013 QuoteThe only people who won in this were the lawyers. Every cloud has a silver lining. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #314 July 3, 2013 RonD1120Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. What's the big deal? You can have all the kinky man on man sex you want, as long as you just say at the end "oh i'm sorry jesus please forgive me!" Didn't you spend years being a drug addict? You've also said that you were attracted to men as a kid. And now look at you, you're the role model christian! That's how it works right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #315 July 3, 2013 skinnay***Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. What's the big deal? You can have all the kinky man on man sex you want, as long as you just say at the end "oh i'm sorry jesus please forgive me!" Repentance means to change your mind and reverse your direction. It does not mean saying I'm sorry. Didn't you spend years being a drug addict? alcoholic mostly You've also said that you were attracted to men as a kid. Where did you get that notion? And now look at you, you're the role model christian! That's how it works right? Oh, I am far from being a role model Christian. I am just a sinner saved by grace. I hope and pray no one emulates my life.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #316 July 3, 2013 twatterpilot*** Isn't this a great thread. It has revealed clearly who the BIGOTS are. Can't debate with sound reason, so resorts to name calling. I wouldn't expect anything less. I didn't name you. Why so defensive? does the shoe fit?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #317 July 3, 2013 RonD1120 ******Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. What's the big deal? You can have all the kinky man on man sex you want, as long as you just say at the end "oh i'm sorry jesus please forgive me!" Repentance means to change your mind and reverse your direction. It does not mean saying I'm sorry. Didn't you spend years being a drug addict? alcoholic mostly You've also said that you were attracted to men as a kid. Where did you get that notion? And now look at you, you're the role model christian! That's how it works right? Oh, I am far from being a role model Christian. I am just a sinner saved by grace. I hope and pray no one emulates my life. It takes two seconds to repent... you have worse sins and I'm sure have caused more harm than most people here. I know it makes you feel better to think the rest of the normal world is scum because they stick their dick in a tighter hole, but you should really just worry about yourself.. but that's probably too difficult to own up to your own fuck ups Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #318 July 3, 2013 GeorgiaDonI suspect you would be quite unhappy if you were singled out to have to travel 24,000 miles to get to the DZ. I didn't read the rest of the post - or much of the thread any more. But I caught this sentence and am wondering if the 24,000 mile route is by SPACE ROCKET. COOOOOOL ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #319 July 3, 2013 Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #320 July 3, 2013 >The point I am trying to make is that persecution goes both ways. Some experience it >with outright actions, others experience it from ideals, beliefs and stereotypes. Sure it does. But if you think that not being able to curse people out in Wal-Mart makes you more persecuted than people who have been arrested, imprisoned, tortured and killed - you're simply not living in the real world. >Just like you are attacking me for having a ever so slightly different view from yours, >that is a form of persecution. Again, if you feel that having someone disagree with you on the Internet makes you more persecuted than people who have been arrested, imprisoned, tortured and killed - you're simply not living in the real world. >And honestly, when was the last time a black man simply went for a walk and got >killed for it? Really? ======================= Another white man pleads guilty in death of black man run over by pickup NBC News JACKSON, Miss. -- Another white man has pleaded guilty to a hate crime charge in the death of a black man who was run over by a pickup truck in Mississippi. Three other white men have already pleaded guilty to hate crime charges in the death of James Craig Anderson, who was beaten and then run over in Jackson on June 26, 2011. None of the men have been sentenced. William Montgomery pleaded guilty Tuesday during a hearing in U.S. District Court in Jackson to two hate crime counts -- one involving the fatal rundown of Anderson and the other involving the assault of another black man, who was not identified in court documents. In addition, Jonathan Gaskamp pleaded guilty to two hate crime counts in the assault of the unidentified black man. ============================ >I will repeat, why is it okay for a black person to publicly threaten a white person, or >wear a trevon shirt at the BET awards, and nothing gets said or done, yet if a white >person publicly threatens a black person or wore a Zimmerman shirt, that person >would be crucified in the court of public opinion. It's not OK to threaten anyone. It's OK to wear T-shirts. Next question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #321 July 3, 2013 billvonMatthew 7:1 Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. Amen! And as I have said to you many times over the past four years, judge the sin not the sinner.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JerryBaumchen 1,446 #322 July 3, 2013 Hi John, Quote Isn't this a great thread. It has revealed clearly who the BIGOTS are. Yup, JerryBaumchen PS) Best of luck to you & your ladyfriend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #323 July 3, 2013 >There are two kinds of sex. One is moral sex as ordained by God. The other is immoral >sex as initiated by Satan. As translated by the religious right: Moral sex is the kind I have. Immoral sex is the kind other people have. I am reminded of a sign that a very fat guy was carrying around the park one day, listing all the deadly sins that would result in the US going to hell: Lust Greed Sloth Wrath Envy Pride Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,112 #324 July 3, 2013 From Wikipedia: Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". This meaning still survives in Italian, in the cognate word bigotto. The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and Gott, or the English by God. And don't we just see that here!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #325 July 3, 2013 kallendFrom Wikipedia: Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics. Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract." The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". This meaning still survives in Italian, in the cognate word bigotto. The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and Gott, or the English by God. And don't we just see that here! Glad you can finally admit it, John. Wow, we seem to be agreeing more and more.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
