livendive 8 #51 June 27, 2013 turtlespeed*********Rapidly multiplying tissue inside a woman's body doesn't become a human life till it resembles and/or is recognized as such by the host. Neither you nor I have any standing to tell her exactly how many such cells will cost her the liberty of deciding what to do with her own body. Blues, Dave Again, the death penalty is cheap. I disagree with your assertion. So do many others. I do not believe you have a right to force others to act in accordance with your beliefs on the matter (and vice versa). Blues, Dave Death is murder when done by another's hand. And that's why Texas is currently pursuing charges on the many faces of "the Orkin man". Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #52 June 27, 2013 self defense is murder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #53 June 27, 2013 livendive****** Life without parole is cheaper Is this true in Texas? Not that the debate over the death penalty morality should be of cost savings (see China), but if it's still costing more to execute in Texas where 500 have been so punished, then it's never going to be cheaper than just jailing them on Alcatraz 3000. According to this article, the trial costs alone far outweigh the costs of life imprisonment, and that doesn't include the costs associated with imprisonment during the often lengthy appeals process, or the execution itself. Blues, Dave Yes, and it is extraordinarily likely that any steps you take to reduce the cost will increase the rate of erroneous convictions. That is not an acceptable trade-off to me."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #54 June 27, 2013 kelpdiverself defense is murder? Yes. Justifiable homicide still has to be proven.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #55 June 28, 2013 QuoteFor example, the Innocence Project, part of Northwestern's School of Journalism, exonerated more people on death row than were executed in Illinois during the time between the SC allowing the death penalty and the Governor commuting Thought we were talking about Texas... Specifics Bob...I mean the death penalty is quite a bit cheaper than Life in prison ~ In Iran. But I don't use that to bolster a Texas sentencing argument. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #56 June 30, 2013 What are you supposed to do if someone is trying to 'murder' you... let him do it? Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #57 July 1, 2013 masterrigWhat are you supposed to do if someone is trying to 'murder' you... let him do it? Chuck NO. Don't be ridiculous. FIRST, it's your fault for being in the situation. SECOND, you yell 'Help' and wait for those qualified to carry weapons to run to your aid, even though they are not required to, THIRD, be nice, say 'Please', you know they are less fortunate than you and you should have already done something to correct that, after all, if you had, they wouldn't try to harm you..I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #58 July 1, 2013 turtlespeed ***What are you supposed to do if someone is trying to 'murder' you... let him do it? Chuck NO. Don't be ridiculous. FIRST, it's your fault for being in the situation. SECOND, you yell 'Help' and wait for those qualified to carry weapons to run to your aid, even though they are not required to, THIRD, be nice, say 'Please', you know they are less fortunate than you and you should have already done something to correct that, after all, if you had, they wouldn't try to harm you.. I see what you're saying. If, all else fails, I still have a CHL. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #59 July 1, 2013 masterrig ******What are you supposed to do if someone is trying to 'murder' you... let him do it? Chuck NO. Don't be ridiculous. FIRST, it's your fault for being in the situation. SECOND, you yell 'Help' and wait for those qualified to carry weapons to run to your aid, even though they are not required to, THIRD, be nice, say 'Please', you know they are less fortunate than you and you should have already done something to correct that, after all, if you had, they wouldn't try to harm you.. I see what you're saying. If, all else fails, I still have a CHL. Chuck Thank all the gods for that!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #60 July 1, 2013 turtlespeed *********What are you supposed to do if someone is trying to 'murder' you... let him do it? Chuck NO. Don't be ridiculous. FIRST, it's your fault for being in the situation. SECOND, you yell 'Help' and wait for those qualified to carry weapons to run to your aid, even though they are not required to, THIRD, be nice, say 'Please', you know they are less fortunate than you and you should have already done something to correct that, after all, if you had, they wouldn't try to harm you.. I see what you're saying. If, all else fails, I still have a CHL. Chuck Thank all the gods for that! Well, I don't make a habit of getting into 'situations'. sometimes, situations arise in the most un-likely of places. I also respect the feelings of anti-gunners but we do have the freedom of choice and I choose to have a CHL and I thank the Texas DPS for making it available. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
