kallend 2,180 #1 June 17, 2013 www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-usa-court-voters-idUSBRE95G0K720130617... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #2 June 17, 2013 kallend www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-usa-court-voters-idUSBRE95G0K720130617 That's wonderful. Who really needs legal residents to vote in an election when you can get the illegal ones to vote themselves some more benefits at no cost to them.. This is stupid.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #3 June 17, 2013 As a European, what do I need to do to be able to vote in the next U.S. election, since citizenship isn't a requirement? Valid U.S. drivers license? USPA license?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #4 June 17, 2013 o noes! How will the GOP disenfranchise voters now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #5 June 17, 2013 billvono noes! How will the GOP disenfranchise voters now? What voters are you talking about? -The illegals who aren't even supposed to be here in the first place? -The illegals who have had, in many cases, years and years to use the processes already in place to become legal participants and/or citizens? -The illegals who have good reason not to put themselves in front of goobermint representatives for any reason? Oh...all of the above.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #6 June 17, 2013 Arvoitus As a European, what do I need to do to be able to vote in the next U.S. election, since citizenship isn't a requirement? Valid U.S. drivers license? USPA license? If yer be votin' fer Bamarama and his gang, I ain't a-gonna tell ya'. Otherwise, just sneak in the back door and a pre-paid pot o' gold awaits you.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,180 #7 June 17, 2013 popsjumper***o noes! How will the GOP disenfranchise voters now? What voters are you talking about? -The illegals who aren't even supposed to be here in the first place? -The illegals who have had, in many cases, years and years to use the processes already in place to become legal participants and/or citizens? -The illegals who have good reason not to put themselves in front of goobermint representatives for any reason? Oh...all of the above. More likely people like this: thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/05/336392/96-year-old-tennessee-woman-denied-voter-id-because-she-didnt-have-her-marriage-license/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #8 June 17, 2013 >What voters are you talking about? The voters who don't have easy proof of citizenship. Native Americans, say. (Which is why the Intertribal Council was the one filing suit.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #9 June 17, 2013 billvon>What voters are you talking about? The voters who don't have easy proof of citizenship. Native Americans, say. (Which is why the Intertribal Council was the one filing suit.) Key word "easy". They misspelled 'lazy'. I have yet to see anything from then that says that getting an ID is hard and/or why. Maybe these types of things? - born at a time or place that didn't issue birth certificates or affidavits of live birth? - birth records destroyed in local/state building fire - too far to walk - nobody to take them - picture taking steals the soul What documentation do you think is reasonable to get one more identification paper.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #10 June 17, 2013 turtlespeed ***www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/17/us-usa-court-voters-idUSBRE95G0K720130617 That's wonderful. Who really needs legal residents to vote in an election when you can get the illegal ones to vote themselves some more benefits at no cost to them.. This is stupid.Politics as usual. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote The state's Republican leadership had said the law was meant to fight voter fraud, but Democrats countered that Republicans who championed the measures aimed to make it harder for minority voters who tend to vote Democratic to cast ballots. Fraud is OK as long as it's favorable to Dems.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 905 #11 June 17, 2013 How cool! You don't even have to be an American citizen to vote on who will lead America! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #12 June 17, 2013 >Key word "easy". They misspelled 'lazy'. OK. Then the GOP doesn't get to disenfrancise people they think are lazy. C'est la vie. (Would you be OK with the democrats denying the vote to people they considered stupid? Say, people who did not understand evolution or climate change?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #13 June 17, 2013 kallend More likely people like this: thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/05/336392/96-year-old-tennessee-woman-denied-voter-id-because-she-didnt-have-her-marriage-license/ Nope. They get to vote.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #14 June 17, 2013 >Nope. They get to vote. They get to vote now. Fortunately. Even if you think she's too lazy to deserve to vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #15 June 17, 2013 What's makes voting in Arizona so hard? http://www.azsos.gov/election/prop_200/poll_identification.htmMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #16 June 17, 2013 billvon>Nope. They get to vote. They get to vote now. Fortunately. Even if you think she's too lazy to deserve to vote. I saw what you did there. You're learning to twist even better. The Arizona people were complaining about "too hard" not Tennessee. Do try to stay on trackMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #17 June 17, 2013 billvon >Key word "easy". They misspelled 'lazy'. OK. Then the GOP doesn't get to disenfrancise people they think are lazy. C'est la vie. (Would you be OK with the democrats denying the vote to people they considered stupid? Say, people who did not understand evolution or climate change?) Where do you get that? GOP thinks people are lazy? Dems think people are stupid? You're talking fiction. Some in Arizona claimed it was too hard.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 June 17, 2013 Are you, by chance, arguing for no voting requirements at all?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #19 June 17, 2013 popsjumper What documentation do you think is reasonable to get one more identification paper. If you don't have ANY, then it is hard to get any."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #20 June 17, 2013 >Where do you get that? Your own post, when you called the people unable to get voter ID "lazy." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #21 June 17, 2013 >Are you, by chance, arguing for no voting requirements at all? Not at all. The way it's done right now (voter registration followed by one of several methods of IDing the person voting) seems to work quite well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #22 June 18, 2013 billvon>Where do you get that? Your own post, when you called the people unable to get voter ID "lazy." Wrong. Not even a commendable attempt. You said, "Then the GOP doesn't get to disenfrancise people they think are lazy. " Show where anybody said anything close to your statement. You tied all your fiction to my one word, "lazy". It's getting harder and harder to get a straight answer out of you.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #23 June 18, 2013 billvon>Are you, by chance, arguing for no voting requirements at all? Not at all. The way it's done right now (voter registration followed by one of several methods of IDing the person voting) seems to work quite well. ...and in Arizona's case?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #24 June 18, 2013 Southern_Man*** What documentation do you think is reasonable to get one more identification paper. If you don't have ANY, then it is hard to get any. Some come here illegally with no U.S.-valid ID and manage to get driver's license and more...apparently fairly easily. Pretty easy to get a birth certificate...no ID needed...just information. From there it's almost a straight shot.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #25 June 18, 2013 >You tied all your fiction to my one word, "lazy". Me: "The voters who don't have easy proof of citizenship. Native Americans, say. (Which is why the Intertribal Council was the one filing suit.)" You: "Key word "easy". They misspelled 'lazy'." Let's see you weasel out of this one . . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
