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But wait . . . they SAID It was a couple of rogue agents in Cincinnati!

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You can't tell me that they were lying.

***WASHINGTON – A Washington-based IRS supervisor acknowledged she was personally involved in reviewing Tea Party applications for tax-exempt status as far back as 2010, Fox News confirms -- a detail that further challenges the agency's initial claim that the practice of singling out those groups was limited to a handful of employees in Ohio.

Congressional sources confirmed to Fox News that Holly Paz, who until recently was a top deputy in the division that handles applications for tax-exempt status, told congressional investigators she reviewed 20 to 30 applications. Some requests languished for more than a year without action.

The account undercuts the narrative that senior officials only learned of the practice after it had already started in the Cincinnati office.
Details of Paz's role were first reported by The Associated Press. Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

I wonder who all you will hear this story from.

1) ABC?
2) NBC?
3) MSNBC?
4) CNN?
5) CBS?
6) AP - - - - - Check
7) Fox News - Check

Lets sit back and see who acknowledges the info and tells the public.
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Huffpost - - - - Check:P

Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Bit of a non-story, rather like your "Spiteful liberal" thread.

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Huffpost - - - - Check:P

Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Bit of a non-story, rather like your "Spiteful liberal" thread.



Show us one, just one, non conservative group that got the same treatment

Oh wait, you cant
Even IRS people cant

Go figure



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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Huffpost - - - - Check:P

Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Bit of a non-story, rather like your "Spiteful liberal" thread.



Show us one, just one, non conservative group that got the same treatment

Oh wait, you cant
Even IRS people cant

Go figure




NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.

The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of the liberal All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

FACTS can be so inconvenient.
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Huffpost - - - - Check:P

Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Bit of a non-story, rather like your "Spiteful liberal" thread.



Show us one, just one, non conservative group that got the same treatment

Oh wait, you cant
Even IRS people cant

Go figure




NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.

The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of the liberal All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

FACTS can be so inconvenient.

Actually
The IRS was asked during the hearing, for any since Obama has become president

Now, I may have mis posted as I will not claim that it has never happened

However, even while not knowing the issues with those audits, if they were done for political punishment, I would feel the same as I do today

Something you would not understand
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Huffpost - - - - Check:P

Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Bit of a non-story, rather like your "Spiteful liberal" thread.



Show us one, just one, non conservative group that got the same treatment

Oh wait, you cant
Even IRS people cant

Go figure




NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.

The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of the liberal All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

FACTS can be so inconvenient.

Actually
The IRS was asked during the hearing, for any since Obama has become president



But that wasn't a constraint in rushmc's question.:)
Anyhow, It seems to me that investigating groups that suggest taxes are theft is a pretty legit thing for the IRS to do.
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Huffpost - - - - Check:P

Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Bit of a non-story, rather like your "Spiteful liberal" thread.



Show us one, just one, non conservative group that got the same treatment

Oh wait, you cant
Even IRS people cant

Go figure




NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.

The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of the liberal All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

FACTS can be so inconvenient.

Actually
The IRS was asked during the hearing, for any since Obama has become president



But that wasn't a constraint in rushmc's question.:)
Anyhow, It seems to me that investigating groups that suggest taxes are theft is a pretty legit thing for the IRS to do.

Ya
Well what makes sense to you seems to revolves more around political ideology rather than the rule of law and what is constitutional
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Huffpost - - - - Check:P

Still, Paz provided no evidence that senior IRS officials ordered agents to target conservative groups or that anyone in the Obama administration outside the IRS was involved.

Bit of a non-story, rather like your "Spiteful liberal" thread.



Show us one, just one, non conservative group that got the same treatment

Oh wait, you cant
Even IRS people cant

Go figure




NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.

The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of the liberal All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

FACTS can be so inconvenient.

Actually
The IRS was asked during the hearing, for any since Obama has become president



But that wasn't a constraint in rushmc's question.:)
Anyhow, It seems to me that investigating groups that suggest taxes are theft is a pretty legit thing for the IRS to do.

Ya
Well what makes sense to you seems to revolves more around political ideology rather than the rule of law and what is constitutional

Incorrect.

As I have written previously (several times) what makes sense to me is NO tax exempt status for any of them, regardless of ideology.

See, for example, www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4487456;search_string=tax%20exempt;#4487456

www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4489217;search_string=tax%20exempt;#4489217



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[Reply]NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.

The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of the liberal All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

FACTS can be so inconvenient.



So we're into the 4th term of the Bush Presidency is what you're saying...


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[Reply]NAACP, Greenpeace and a liberal Episcopal church in California. In 2004, the IRS audited the NAACP after its chairman said President George W. Bush was the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover who declined to speak before the group.

The same year, the IRS moved to revoke the tax-exempt status of the liberal All Saints Episcopal in Pasadena.

FACTS can be so inconvenient.



So we're into the 4th term of the Bush Presidency is what you're saying...



Just answering the question as asked, Counselor.

You remember that thing about "the WHOLE truth"?
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Yeah. One side has a problem with giving "nothing but the truth" because it might make the other side look not-quite-so-bad-in-comparison.

The other side is out to get "leakers" and "whistleblowers" who would give the "whole truth." So whatever the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is becomes lost in the sea of one side giving falsehoods and the other side not giving truths


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Yeah. One side has a problem with giving "nothing but the truth" because it might make the other side look not-quite-so-bad-in-comparison.

The other side is out to get "leakers" and "whistleblowers" who would give the "whole truth." So whatever the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is becomes lost in the sea of one side giving falsehoods and the other side not giving truths



Good. We have established that being rogues and liars is not restricted to one side, and that the IRS has indeed targeted both conservative and liberal groups, and that rushmc is very bad at researching the facts..

NEXT!
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Given the testimony heard this week, this appears to be the latest attempt to throw shit at the wall and see if it will stick

Cause the under oath testimony paints a different picture

But, I know the truth is irrelevant to you
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Given the testimony heard this week, this appears to be the latest attempt to throw shit at the wall and see if it will stick

Cause the under oath testimony paints a different picture

But, I know the truth is irrelevant to you

No, the WHOLE truth is irrelevant to Issa.
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Given the testimony heard this week, this appears to be the latest attempt to throw shit at the wall and see if it will stick

Cause the under oath testimony paints a different picture

But, I know the truth is irrelevant to you

No, the WHOLE truth is irrelevant to Issa.

No
It is irrelevant to you
I dont give fuck about Issa
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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No, the WHOLE truth is irrelevant to Issa.



I agree with this. Issa is a politician. The truth Issa wants out is the opposite of what the Admin wants out. Between the two, we can get the whole picture.

And neither side wants that.


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