wmw999 2,589 #1 June 13, 2013 Interestingly enough, while I was waiting for someone to come by the house, I was watching a rerun of Castle. Why interestingly? Because they had the CIA using masses of cell phone data to help solve the case. QuoteSophia uses her CIA computer wizardry to just list all the calls from the right time period and location, and starts narrowing down from there. She ends up with a video from a surveillance camera of a man making the call from a payphone, using a scrambler. Facial recognition shows that it's a man with CIA ties.I don't know if the writers knew this was reality, but I sure don't remember an uproar about the possibility when this episode aired. It's just interesting how different things are in different contexts. I still am distressed by the whole thing; I'm really not interested in that much trackability. But this sure was a timely insertion of this episode. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #2 June 13, 2013 Nobody, but nobody, who read Orwell's 1984 and Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451, especially before the existence of the modern Internet (like me), should be surprised by any of this. I've been waiting for it for 40 years. It's never been a question of "Could it happen? Will it happen?"; it's always just been a matter of time, place and method. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #3 June 14, 2013 I just read something about a guy that made a movie in 2008 about nsa recording phone calls and the fbi advisor on the set told him they had been doing that for a while and played him a recording of one of his calls from two years before. It was supposed to be on a talk show or something, came from one of the news feeds I read, maybe boing boing._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #4 June 14, 2013 The genie is out of the bottle. This gentleman has his take on it, and at the conclusion even offers up possible solutions. http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/06/why-i-have-nothing-to-hide-is-the-wrong-way-to-think-about-surveillance/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #5 June 14, 2013 sfzombie13I just read something about a guy that made a movie in 2008 about nsa recording phone calls and the fbi advisor on the set told him they had been doing that for a while and played him a recording of one of his calls from two years before. It was supposed to be on a talk show or something, came from one of the news feeds I read, maybe boing boing. Enemy of the State (1998) Gene Hackman Will SmithNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #6 June 15, 2013 thanx. my laptop had a cup of coffee dumped on it, so getting a supporting link or even trying to figure out what i've been reading is a real pain. not to mention going from win 7 and 8 gb of ram and suse, to win xp with 500 mb ram is driving me nuts. like i can click on something and go grab a sandwich. one thing on this article, it said that the govt attempt to prosecute "whistleblowers" was inversely proportional to the rank of the person accused. snowden doesn't stand much of a chance._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #7 June 15, 2013 Or directly proportional to the government's embarrassment about pissing on the Constitution.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #8 June 15, 2013 no, i would have to agree. i have heard of the same things being said by higher ranking individuals with no mention of being a traitor or prosecution. the thing that really outrages me is that nobody is calling for accountability or making them stop. the madness needs to stop now. it's high time the american people take the country back._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites