Yet one more example of Liberal Spitefulness

[turtlespeed 226]

What a bloody idiot.

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Joshua High School principal Mick Cochran threatened to write a letter to the U.S. Naval Academy disparaging the character of Remington Reimer.

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“It was intimidating having my high school principal threaten my future because I wanted to stand up for the Constitution and acknowledge my faith and not simply read a government approved speech, the teenager said.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,146]

Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

And that community sure looks like a bastion of liberalism, with 75% voting for Romney.

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[airdvr 210]

kallend

Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

That's right up there with 'you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything wrong'.

Please don't dent the planet.

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[kallend 2,146]

airdvr

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Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

That's right up there with 'you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything wrong'.

Wasn't aware that following orders was optional in the US Navy.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

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Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

That's right up there with 'you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything wrong'.

Wasn't aware that following orders was optional in the US Navy.

Look up "Lawful Orders"

The school didn't follow its own policies, and infringed on his constitutional rights.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kelpdiver 2]

airdvr

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Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

That's right up there with 'you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything wrong'.

The threat of retaliation was quite inappropriate, but that said, this sort of planned willful disobedience will not work out very well for the young man in his intended military career. Instead of losing the mike and a letter in his file, he may be expelled, demoted, or jailed for such an act.

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turtlespeed

The school didn't follow its own policies, and infringed on his constitutional rights.

Maybe, maybe not. The rights of high school students in school and at school functions are a proper subset of the rights of adults.

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[kallend 2,146]

turtlespeed

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Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

That's right up there with 'you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything wrong'.

Wasn't aware that following orders was optional in the US Navy.

Look up "Lawful Orders"

The school didn't follow its own policies, and infringed on his constitutional rights.

Prove it.

And you're full of shit over the "Liberal" label too. Small town Texas that went 75% for Romney last November.

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[Glitch 0]

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turtlespeed wrote:
The school didn't follow its own policies, and infringed on his constitutional rights.


Maybe, maybe not. The rights of high school students in school and at school functions are a proper subset of the rights of adults.

...so just when is it that you suppose our kids "get" their Constitutional rights?

Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born...

[kelpdiver 2]

Glitch

...so just when is it that you suppose our kids "get" their Constitutional rights?

many exist all along
some come along at 18 when they are deemed competent to sign contracts.
some inexplicably don't come for 3 more years (drinking, handguns)
and some don't exist within the high school scene regardless of age.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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...so just when is it that you suppose our kids "get" their Constitutional rights?

When you allow them to call their grandmother an old hag, since they have a constitutional right to free speech.

[rushmc 23]

turtlespeed

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Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

That's right up there with 'you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything wrong'.

Wasn't aware that following orders was optional in the US Navy.

Look up "Lawful Orders"

The school didn't follow its own policies, and infringed on his constitutional rights.

Liberals are ok with ignoring parts of the constitution if they agree with an outcome

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rehmwa 2]

rushmc

Liberals are ok with ignoring parts of the constitution if they agree with an outcome

How DARE You!!!

It's about the children.

That's it - you won't get your cancer treatment....
your tax exempt status is revoked
I'm taking your guns
and you're about to get audited, oh boy

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[rushmc 23]

rehmwa

***Liberals are ok with ignoring parts of the constitution if they agree with an outcome

How DARE You!!!

It's about the children.

That's it - you won't get your cancer treatment....
your tax exempt status is revoked
I'm taking your guns
and you're about to get audited, oh boy

AND

the epa is going to make me dig up and plug my brand new geothermal wells

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,146]

rushmc

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Maybe someone who won't follow instructions should not be joining the military at all.

That's right up there with 'you shouldn't be worried if you're not doing anything wrong'.

Wasn't aware that following orders was optional in the US Navy.

Look up "Lawful Orders"

The school didn't follow its own policies, and infringed on his constitutional rights.

Liberals are ok with ignoring parts of the constitution if they agree with an outcome

Story relates to a small town in Texas that went 75% for Romney last November. Clearly full of liberals.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[turtlespeed 226]

kallend

And you're full of shit over the "Liberal" label too. Small town Texas that went 75% for Romney last November.

Heh - Did I touch a nerve there cupcake?

Ever hear of the Napoleon Complex?

Little liberal in a conservative town, has an axe to grind?

Joshua Student Handbook Reference Page 36 (Graduation Speakers) wherein is referenced FNA(Local) [Attached Hereto] and quoted in part.

FNA(LOCAL) - Policy regarding student speaking

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The District shall treat a student's voluntary expression of a religious viewpoint, if any, on an otherwise permissible subject in the
same manner the District treats a student's voluntary expression of
a secular or other viewpoint on an otherwise permissible subject
and shall not discriminate against the student based on a religious
viewpoint expressed by the student on an otherwise permissible
subject.

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The District shall treat a student's voluntary expression of a religious viewpoint, if any, on an otherwise permissible subject in the
same manner the District treats a student's voluntary expression of
a secular or other viewpoint on an otherwise permissible subject
and shall not discriminate against the student based on a religious
viewpoint expressed by the student on an otherwise permissible
subject.

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A written disclaimer shall be printed in the graduation program that
states, "The students who shall be speaking at the graduation
ceremony were selected based on neutral criteria to deliver messages of the students' own choices. The content of each student
speaker's message is the private expression of the individual student and does not reflect the endorsement, sponsorship, position,
or expression of the District."

(They didn't do this)

There is your proof.
They violated and disregarded their own policies and adopted modus operandi.

Next.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

[kallend 2,146]

“Student speakers were told that if their speeches deviated from the prior-reviewed material, the microphone would be turned off, regardless of content. When one student’s speech deviated from the prior-reviewed speech, the microphone was turned off, pursuant to District policy and procedure.”

Do you have a comprehension problem today?

And why would an overwhelmingly CONSERVATIVE town in Texas appoint a "little liberal" to the post anyway? Apparently you are suggesting conservatives are stupid.

FACT is, you have no idea whatsoever of the politics of the individual and are making an assumption that is most likely incorrect.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 23]

turtlespeed

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And you're full of shit over the "Liberal" label too. Small town Texas that went 75% for Romney last November.

Heh - Did I touch a nerve there cupcake?

Ever hear of the Napoleon Complex?

Little liberal in a conservative town, has an axe to grind?

Joshua Student Handbook Reference Page 36 (Graduation Speakers) wherein is referenced FNA(Local) [Attached Hereto] and quoted in part.

FNA(LOCAL) - Policy regarding student speaking

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The District shall treat a student's voluntary expression of a religious viewpoint, if any, on an otherwise permissible subject in the
same manner the District treats a student's voluntary expression of
a secular or other viewpoint on an otherwise permissible subject
and shall not discriminate against the student based on a religious
viewpoint expressed by the student on an otherwise permissible
subject.

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The District shall treat a student's voluntary expression of a religious viewpoint, if any, on an otherwise permissible subject in the
same manner the District treats a student's voluntary expression of
a secular or other viewpoint on an otherwise permissible subject
and shall not discriminate against the student based on a religious
viewpoint expressed by the student on an otherwise permissible
subject.

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A written disclaimer shall be printed in the graduation program that
states, "The students who shall be speaking at the graduation
ceremony were selected based on neutral criteria to deliver messages of the students' own choices. The content of each student
speaker's message is the private expression of the individual student and does not reflect the endorsement, sponsorship, position,
or expression of the District."

(They didn't do this)

There is your proof.
They violated and disregarded their own policies and adopted modus operandi.

Next.



He keeps saying the town is not liberal so as to try and negate the fact that a liberal ass hat pulled this crap

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[yoink 321]

You guys are like children throwing terms 'Liberal' and 'Conservative' around as though they're insults...

You all need to grow the hell up.

95% of the threads in this forum degenerate into semantic bitching matches between the same 6 people to try and score some sort of imaginary points over each other.


For the mods - other forums have a 'foe' button that automatically hides posts from people that you tag with this. What are the chances of getting such a system here? It'd help clear up the signal to noise ratio.

[popsjumper 2]

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FACT is, you have no idea whatsoever of the politics of the individual and are making an assumption...

Kinda like calling them liberals.
*rolling eyes*

(correct or not has no bearing.)

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[wmw999 2,584]

What is the evidence that the guy is a liberal, and not just a petty tyrant?

Or is it just that someone called him liberal? He grew up in a sports-minded family in Kentucky, which normally isn't a bastion of liberal thought. He went to college in Oklahoma, which is also not exactly a liberal stronghold.

It's not impossible that he's a liberal, but it's at least as possible that he's just someone who has a rule that he thinks needs to be enforced a particular way. It was the deviation from the scripted speech that was the stated issue, according to the story.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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wmw999

What is the evidence that the guy is a liberal, and not just a petty tyrant?

Well, they are the same thing.

[billvon 3,107]

>For the mods - other forums have a 'foe' button that automatically hides posts from
>people that you tag with this. What are the chances of getting such a system here?

We've thought about that. (Also a karma system, where users can vote on the value of a post, and then allow users to exclude posts below a threshold.) For now it's pretty easy to just not read posts from users who add no value.

[rushmc 23]

yoink

You guys are like children throwing terms 'Liberal' and 'Conservative' around as though they're insults...

You all need to grow the hell up.

95% of the threads in this forum degenerate into semantic bitching matches between the same 6 people to try and score some sort of imaginary points over each other.


For the mods - other forums have a 'foe' button that automatically hides posts from people that you tag with this. What are the chances of getting such a system here? It'd help clear up the signal to noise ratio.

Wow
Then why are you posting this to me and not the childish liberals?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,146]

Marc, please explain to us why an overwhelmingly conservative Texas town would ELECT a school board that would then select a liberal principal for its high school.

Your conclusion is not just devoid of a factual basis, it also defies logic.

And the guy was correct. An official school function is not an appropriate venue for a religious diatribe, whether about Jesus, Allah, Jaweh, Zeus or Odin.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.