quade 4 #1 June 10, 2013 QuoteU.S. considers taking in Syrian refugees WASHINGTON — Two years into a civil war that shows no signs of ending, the Obama administration is considering resettling refugees who have fled Syria, part of an international effort that could bring thousands of Syrians to American cities and towns. Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-refugees-20130610,0,6484601.story Even I, liberal commie pinko bastard that I am, think we need to be pretty damn careful with this one.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #2 June 10, 2013 How would they even know who is a genuine refugee and who is an Al-Qaeda sympathizer with the intention of doing stupid shit inside US?Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 June 10, 2013 I don't know. Certainly there is something to be said for some compassion and outreach to mothers and children, but holy cow I just don't know how it's possible to do this and be 100 percent sure we won't regret it later. Then again, do nothing . . . and we're going to regret that too. I dunno. I think this is a pretty f'ed up situation.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #4 June 10, 2013 I was surprised several years ago when I met an Afghan/American working to train people for Afghanistan. He was acting as an interpreter in simulated situations. He was a young, personable guy. I was a trainer there for the intel guys. He was from North Carolina. Turns out there are a few communities created by the US during the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. We gave them citizenship and they still live here. The young man said when he decided to get married, he would probably have his parents pick someone for him. The community stayed tight enough that a guy in his early 20s that was raised in the US since he was a small still wanted to follow the old ways. Seemed like a relevant story.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winsor 236 #5 June 10, 2013 quadeQuoteU.S. considers taking in Syrian refugees WASHINGTON — Two years into a civil war that shows no signs of ending, the Obama administration is considering resettling refugees who have fled Syria, part of an international effort that could bring thousands of Syrians to American cities and towns. Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-refugees-20130610,0,6484601.story Even I, liberal commie pinko bastard that I am, think we need to be pretty damn careful with this one. One of the lessons we perennially flunk is that the oppressed are often every bit as bad as the oppressors. There are countless cases of peoples who elicit sympathy when subject to abuse by those in power, but are then more abusive by far when they come into power. The saw that people get the government they deserve (in which case we must truly suck out loud) suggests paying close attention to the merits of the oppressed before bringing them into the fold. I can think of a number of ethnicities where the social outcasts were the intelligentsia, dynamic and insightful, who were opposed by the unwashed masses who were powered largely by superstition and stupidity. The oppressed in this case would be an asset to any society that chose to welcome them. There are other populations, however, where the oppressed are at the extreme of superstition and stupidity, whose capacity for unfairness and brutality outstrips anything their oppressors might bring to bear. These folks might warrant a sympathy card at best, and attempting to add them to the melting pot can only increase the quantity and decrease the quality of the slag therein. In Syria we are faced with a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Neither the powers that be nor those they oppose like us for beans, and it would be hard to guess at this point which group is more virulent toward us. One thing we sure as hell do not want to do is to make their problems our problems. We have enough problems of our own, thank you very much. BSBD, Winsor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 June 10, 2013 “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” This quote comes from Emma Lazarus'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #7 June 10, 2013 quadeQuoteU.S. considers taking in Syrian refugees WASHINGTON — Two years into a civil war that shows no signs of ending, the Obama administration is considering resettling refugees who have fled Syria, part of an international effort that could bring thousands of Syrians to American cities and towns. Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-fg-syria-refugees-20130610,0,6484601.story Even I, liberal commie pinko bastard that I am, think we need to be pretty damn careful with this one. Yes. Carefully. But Yes, they should be allowed to apply and go through the citizenship process as it is written in law now. Maybe we can get the IRS to investigate them.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #8 June 10, 2013 Will they get free Obamacare? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #9 June 10, 2013 Our options are limited, due to the 1951 Refugee Convention.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #10 June 10, 2013 GravitymasterWill they get free Obamacare? Yes. With 2 obamaphones.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #11 June 10, 2013 GravitymasterWill they get free Obamacare? Lets rephrase that. Will they get free (to them) Obama Care? Answer is yes.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #12 June 10, 2013 Remster***Will they get free Obamacare? Yes. With 2 obamaphones. I suspect they will get more than just a mere 2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites