champu 1 #51 May 25, 2013 quadeYou really don't have a clue what this thread is about; do you? ...it's a pretty good [example] because most Americans have never heard of the word and never had a way to describe the idea it stands for, yet the minute they know the word, suddenly the concept opens up for them and they instantly recognize the meaning. The opposite of that, removing words, has the opposite effect. Remove words and you remove the ability to communicate as effectively. It's funny (to me, anyway) that you would start your post with such scorn about someone's ability to follow a thread, and then display a terrible lack of empathy for what the original post was complaining about, regardless of whether you agree with the idea of wishing words away. You truly think too highly of yourself. His complaint was about words that have come to do a terrible job at communicating information about a person's viewpoint. He's sick of people using certain words as a crutch, using words in a dismissive way when they don't wish to approach a topic in an engaging manner, and people overloading words as pejoratives and sucking all the usefulness they may have once had out of them. It has nothing to do with burying any ideas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #52 May 25, 2013 Who ever said I had to have "empathy" for people who want to control speech? Ya know the old saying about "there's two sides to every story"? Well, it's one of those great lies society tells us. Sometimes, there actually isn't another side, sometimes it's just wrong.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #53 May 25, 2013 Post: Has anybody (other than you) in speakers corner ever used that phrase? Pre-emptive ban. I have a liberal friend that uses it."Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #54 May 25, 2013 quadeWho ever said I had to have "empathy" for people who want to control speech? Ya know the old saying about "there's two sides to every story"? Well, it's one of those great lies society tells us. Sometimes, there actually isn't another side, sometimes it's just wrong. It is possible to disagree with someone's "solution" to a problem without denying there might be a problem. Further, it's possible to disagree with someone stating that a condition is a problem without denying that the condition exists. If you go non-linear about the "solution" and refuse to take a couple steps backwards, you end up arguing out in left field. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #55 May 25, 2013 Left field hell. He's in candlestick while we're talking Wrigley. Did you notice that his last post restated my interpretation - that he argued against - as his own?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #56 May 25, 2013 Kennedy Left field hell. He's in candlestick while we're talking Wrigley. Did you notice that his last post restated my interpretation - that he argued against - as his own? Perhaps rather than banning words, we should ban hyperbole? quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #57 May 25, 2013 quade ***Left field hell. He's in candlestick while we're talking Wrigley. Did you notice that his last post restated my interpretation - that he argued against - as his own? Perhaps rather than banning words, we should ban hyperbole? Dang, Quade...don't do that! We'd miss you! Ban some phrases such as, "You're wrong."My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #58 May 26, 2013 champu***Who ever said I had to have "empathy" for people who want to control speech? Ya know the old saying about "there's two sides to every story"? Well, it's one of those great lies society tells us. Sometimes, there actually isn't another side, sometimes it's just wrong. It is possible to disagree with someone's "solution" to a problem without denying there might be a problem. I'm not denying there is a problem. I'm denying the proposal is a solution. Again, I do not have to feel "empathy" for people who want to control speech in much the same way I don't have to feel "empathy" for people who wish to own slaves. There are not two sides to that issue; it's simply wrong.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #59 May 26, 2013 I put the word "solution" in quotes because I don't think banning words solves anything either. I'm not clear on why you keep putting "empathy" in quotes though, that's kinda odd. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #60 May 26, 2013 Because I'm quoting your word from post #51 of this thread.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #61 May 26, 2013 I didn't mean it in any weird or sarcastic sense, so you don't have to keep doing that if you don't want. It's just a word I used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #62 May 27, 2013 Croc I'd ban "gun lust." People who use that term know nothing about guns; and if that is their idea of lust... I remember twice taking a new firearm into my boss to show it off and seeing him rub it on his crotch. I have been known to lay a new firearm in the bed next to me and sleep with it. I think gunlust is a prefectly good term. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
