Why did Obama call the fort hood shooting workplace violence?

[rushmc 23]

Another example of work place violenc

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/british-soldier-beheaded/2013/05/22/id/505841

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[jclalor 12]

Perhaps we could all settle on "workplace jihad"

[billvon 3,090]

>Another example of work place violence

Was that in his workplace?

[jakee 1,571]

billvon

>Maybe that's why he's still being paid his salary.

He's still being paid a salary because he's a soldier, and thus his pay cannot be suspended until he has been proven guilt per the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Obama should totally override the UCMJ.

But he should never make a Marine carry an umbrella.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[jakee 1,571]

Gravitymaster

***>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Kennedy 0]

What's next, are we going to call the killing of bin Laden "workplace violence"?

Would you prefer a Newspeak reference, or are you partial to doublespeak?

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jakee

******>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.

[GeorgiaDon 379]

Gravitymaster

*********>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.I agree with him. A serial killer is someone who commits multiple murders separated by a substantial time interval (days to sometimes years). Someone who kills a bunch of people in a single incident is a mass murderer.

Don

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GeorgiaDon

************>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.I agree with him. A serial killer is someone who commits multiple murders separated by a substantial time interval (days to sometimes years). Someone who kills a bunch of people in a single incident is a mass murderer. Don

Promise5, for example, has implied that she is a serial killer.

My 20-something kid can chow her way thru a box of Cocoa Krispies in a day. She's a cereal killer.

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GeorgiaDon

************>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.I agree with him. A serial killer is someone who commits multiple murders separated by a substantial time interval (days to sometimes years). Someone who kills a bunch of people in a single incident is a mass murderer.

Don

You are thinking of a spree killer.

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Andy9o8

***************>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.I agree with him. A serial killer is someone who commits multiple murders separated by a substantial time interval (days to sometimes years). Someone who kills a bunch of people in a single incident is a mass murderer. Don

Promise5, for example, has implied that she is a serial killer.

My 20-something kid can chow her way thru a box of Cocoa Krispies in a day. She's a cereal killer.

Fox has a history of cancelling really promising new tv shows after only a season or so. Does that make them serial serial killers?

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[billvon 3,090]

>What's next, are we going to call the killing of bin Laden "workplace violence"?

I'd call that an military operation. I don't think he was killed in his place of work by a coworker. Instead he was killed where he lived by soldiers who were under orders to kill him.

Or you could call it an assassination if you want. Whatever floats your boat.

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Gravitymaster

***************>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.I agree with him. A serial killer is someone who commits multiple murders separated by a substantial time interval (days to sometimes years). Someone who kills a bunch of people in a single incident is a mass murderer.

Don

You are thinking of a spree killer.

"A serial killer is one who commits a number of murders over a long period of time, with the killings separated by often long periods of apparent normalcy. A mass murderer, on the other hand, is an individual who kills several people in a single event. A spree killer kills in a series of closely connected events." Source

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billvon

>Or you could call it an assassination if you want. Whatever floats your boat.

I think you mean a ship. A boat is liftable whereas a ship can't really be transported by a ship. But "watercraft" tends to make one think of tinier vessels.

not that I think "vessel" is a very clear term in and of itself

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Gravitymaster

*********>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.

I agree with him. You are wrong (as usual).

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rehmwa

***>Or you could call it an assassination if you want. Whatever floats your boat.

I think you mean a ship. A boat is liftable whereas a ship can't really be transported by a ship. But "watercraft" tends to make one think of tinier vessels.

not that I think "vessel" is a very clear term in and of itself

Does that make a U-Boat a ship and not a boat?

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kallend

Does that make a U-Boat a ship and not a boat?

I think it depends on who is proposing the funding....

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[normiss 871]

While some will call it an illegal military entry into another nation.

[jakee 1,571]

Gravitymaster

*********>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.

You're funny Since I had only just written it, what the fuck did you expect?

And hey look, since some time has now passed, everyone who has commented has agreed with me and nobody has agreed with you. Perfect

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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jakee

************>If he was screaming Allah Akbar as he murdered people we certainly would.

Agreed; that would be a workplace killing too.

Yeah, and he would also be a serial killer.

He's not a serial killer, he's a mass murderer. If you're going to participate a thread quibbling over what he's being called then you should try and get it right.

Nobody has agreed with you on this.

You're funny Since I had only just written it, what the fuck did you expect?

And hey look, since some time has now passed, everyone who has commented has agreed with me and nobody has agreed with you. Perfect

Wrong again. Read the thread cupcake. Might want to try reading Bonfire also. See if you can dope it out. Get back to me when you figure it out.

[jakee 1,571]

You're just too cute

Get back to me when you're man enough to admit a mistake.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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billvon

>He was not just another pissed off postal worker,he was a professional soldier.

Correct. His workplace was a military base.

>He knew what he was doing when he attacked his fellow servicemen and women.

Most workplace killers do.

>He should be treated as an islamic terrorist

Except he's in the military, which means they - not you - get to decide. (Given that he will probably get the death penalty, not too much difference in any case.)

I wonder when it was that the last postal employee screamed something about Allah, and Jihad, as they were blasting people.

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Andy9o8

***The wounded and the families of those killed will have their day.

Indeed they will. They will testify at the defendant's trial.
If you meant more than that, then I have a generic "foil hat" comment to offer you. Sure, they will testify, but they will get purple hearts because this was not workplace violence.

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[davjohns 1]

1. There are two sides to this. Some people want to play down the Islamic element and therefore do not call it terrorism. But it is. I also note that the British did not prosecute IRA for terrorism when that battle was ongoing. They treated them purely as criminals. It kept their cause from taking on legitimacy. Perhaps it is more insulting to this guy to just treat him as a criminal. Worse, suggest that his jihadist perspective is the result of mental defect. Hmmmm.... Personally, I just want to refer to it all as, 'the circumstances precipitating his execution' as soon as possible.

2. I'm still trying to figure out why it took the administration so long to call the Boston Marathon bombing 'terrorism'. Surely nobody thought it was a pick pocketing gone horribly wrong?

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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davjohns

1. There are two sides to this. Some people want to play down the Islamic element and therefore do not call it terrorism. But it is. I also note that the British did not prosecute IRA for terrorism when that battle was ongoing. They treated them purely as criminals. It kept their cause from taking on legitimacy. Perhaps it is more insulting to this guy to just treat him as a criminal. Worse, suggest that his jihadist perspective is the result of mental defect. Hmmmm.... Personally, I just want to refer to it all as, 'the circumstances precipitating his execution' as soon as possible.

2. I'm still trying to figure out why it took the administration so long to call the Boston Marathon bombing 'terrorism'. Surely nobody thought it was a pick pocketing gone horribly wrong?

I believe that "playing down the Islamic element" in this is a mistake. The war against terrorism is far from over. The enemy has simply brought the battlefield directly to the homeland of we infidels, and the sooner this administration admits this, the better. I believe this simple minded shooter collaborated with the enemy on the internet and became an overnight jihadist. In essence, he betrayed his country and became a enemy participant on the battlefield willfully killing and wounding American soldiers right here on American soil. These deaths and injuries should be treated no less than the result of hostile action. Having received a Purple Heart myself, I see little difference in what happened to these soldiers and me (except I was able to shoot back at the bastards who were trying to kill me).

" why it took the administration so long to call the Boston Marathon bombing 'terrorism".....? That's the question every American citizen should be asking themselves. Could it be another internet movie against islam?

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