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[Reply]In many states there are Nobel prizewinners on their state university faculty. Don't you think it would be appropriate for them to be paid as much as the football coach?



Not necessarily, since a professor's job is to teach.



Don't be daft, a Professor's job is not just to teach. Honestly, why would you employ a Nobel prizewinner and restrict them to the lecture theatre?

You know better than that, and your argument will have more merit if you stop ignoring large chunks of reality.
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"Public universities may be suffering disinvestment from state governments, but their presidents are still taking home hefty salaries. According to a newly released survey by the Chronicle of Higher Education, the median total compensation for public university chancellors and presidents rose 3 percent from $409,483 in FY 2010 to $421,395 in FY 2011."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/29/highest-paid-public-college-presidents_n_1552720.html

No wonder college tuition is so high.

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lawrocket

[Reply]In many states there are Nobel prizewinners on their state university faculty. Don't you think it would be appropriate for them to be paid as much as the football coach?



Not necessarily, since a professor's job is to teach.



What about "Research Professors"?
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TI'm not ignoring reality. In the event that you are unaware, "professor" is a far broader term in the US than in Britain. It can include "lecturer" - for most of the populace here, we call our lecturers "professor." Some professors have no teaching responsibilities (research professors) and most of those are funded by grants in addition to university wages. Then there are clinical professors.

So the reality is that the Nobel Prize winner may be making plenty of dough with consulting, grants, etc. Why would a university bring a Nobel Prize winner? For the glory, right? Mathematicians are considered like athletes - over the hill at 35 and not expected to make huge breakthroughs in late life.

It's not being daft. It's a redlection of what I value for educators - the ability to education. Jeez, in a couple of sentences kallend helped me immenselh with something I was struggling with - he can teach.


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In the event that you are unaware, "professor" is a far broader term in the US than in Britain.



I fail to see how you are unaware that this further torpedoes your own argument.

You did not specify a professor who's duties are limited to teaching - in fact, by specifying Nobel prize winners you all but guaranteed that you were not talking about professors who's duties are limited to teaching.

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It's not being daft. It's a reflection of what I value for educators



What you value in an educator is not the only thing a university values in a professor. Neither is it the only thing (or maybe even any part of it) that a university values in its football coach, so any attempt to narrow down the discussion to teaching only is intellectually dishonest on your part. I do hope you can see that.


(BTW, there's no Nobel for Maths alone. Just FYI.)
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