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It's a good thing we have your moral compass to guide into the light...

Leave it to the lefties to know and indeed, to tell us, how to think.



I'm not telling you how to think, thats impossible. However, if you or rushmc condone/agree with the quotes I posted, that says a lot about you.
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It's a good thing we have your moral compass to guide into the light...

Leave it to the lefties to know and indeed, to tell us, how to think.



I'm not telling you how to think, thats impossible. However, if you or rushmc condone/agree with the quotes I posted, that says a lot about you.

No, your take on them says everything about you and who gives you your opinions

I get it that you dont agree with him
That is fine
I dont care about that

But I call out lies when I see them

And you are being fed lies and you are buying into them

IF you listened to him, you would not be parroting the racist claim given to you
You couldn't cause you would no better

He is a lot of things
A racist is not even close

BTW, did you look into the Majic Negro issue/comment at all? Or are you not brave enough?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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It's a good thing we have your moral compass to guide into the light...

Leave it to the lefties to know and indeed, to tell us, how to think.



I'm not telling you how to think, thats impossible. However, if you or rushmc condone/agree with the quotes I posted, that says a lot about you.

No, your take on them says everything about you and who gives you your opinions

I get it that you dont agree with him
That is fine
I dont care about that

But I call out lies when I see them

And you are being fed lies and you are buying into them

IF you listened to him, you would not be parroting the racist claim given to you
You couldn't cause you would no better

He is a lot of things
A racist is not even close

BTW, did you look into the Majic Negro issue/comment at all? Or are you not brave enough?

I did - it was coined by someone else (black themselves) so fair enough I will concede in that case that he can just about get away with it in policy if not intent.

However with regards to everything else, Do you not believe he said those other things, or do you think they are appropriate? Do you think you need segregation? Do you think its OK to refer to chinese people like that?

I have listened to him when I am in country, and he makes my skin crawl as he is a racist and a bigot.
Just to be clear, those exist on both sides of the fence. Extremes are never good.
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I have listened to him when I am in country, and he makes my skin crawl as he is a racist and a bigot.
Just to be clear, those exist on both sides of the fence. Extremes are never good.
You dont agree with him
You looked up the magic negro comment
Both ok and good

I commend you on that
I reallydo


But
You do not listen to him enough

If you did
You would not make the comment he is a racist
If you did listen
You could not make that comment
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Would it help to say that he says a lot of stuff that is most likely to be interpreted as having racial bias?

Yeah, I Know -- that way you can blame the listener. But when a decent number of people seem to hear the same thing, it might be that it's inelegantly expressed as well.

Wendy P.
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Stumpy

So you are going to dodge the specific comments? Guess that gives me my answer.



:D

Dodged?

No
If you would take and look at the rest of the comments posted you would find them all very similar

Again
Listen
You dont have to agree
But you would not call him racist
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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wmw999

Would it help to say that he says a lot of stuff that is most likely to be interpreted as having racial bias?

Yeah, I Know -- that way you can blame the listener. But when a decent number of people seem to hear the same thing, it might be that it's inelegantly expressed as well.

Wendy P.



To correct

they are not hearing the same thing
They are being told the same thing
And they run with it
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Both Stumpy and Ian said they listened to him, and came to their conclusions.

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Both Stumpy and Ian said they listened to him, and came to their conclusions.

Wendy P.



They can say what ever they want
They may have had the radio on
but they didnt listen to him
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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They can say what ever they want
They may have had the radio on
but they didnt listen to him



Can you image what a left leaning poster would sound like to you if they insisted that you don't like Rachel Maddow because you haven't really listened to her? You'd think they were blinded by their biases.

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That's completely different! Rush Limbaugh is a smart guy with solid opinions who speaks the truth (or more accurately what RushMC wants to hear.) Anyone who thinks he is wrong, or a racist, or a clueless entertainer is just misinformed. Or they never listened to him. Or they listened to him, but don't listen intelligently like RushMC does.

On the other hand, Rachel Maddow is a fool with no valid opinions, which is why RushMC disagrees with everything she says. Anyone who thinks she is right is being fed lies and they are buying into them. People who support her have never listened to her. If they did listen, like RushMC does, they would know!

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They can say what ever they want
They may have had the radio on
but they didnt listen to him



Can you image what a left leaning poster would sound like to you if they insisted that you don't like Rachel Maddow because you haven't really listened to her? You'd think they were blinded by their biases.



I dont see anyone calling her a racists here

And since I dont listen to her I dont know if she is or not and I am certaianly not going to take any elses word on somthing like that

A few here should do that

On the other hand
Calling RL a racist or calling people here one is the same disgusting tactic use to try and silence the other side.

It has been tried on me
And this sight has cured me of giving a damn about whether someone wants to call me one or not
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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billvon

That's completely different! Rush Limbaugh is a smart guy with solid opinions who speaks the truth (or more accurately what RushMC wants to hear.) Anyone who thinks he is wrong, or a racist, or a clueless entertainer is just misinformed. Or they never listened to him. Or they listened to him, but don't listen intelligently like RushMC does.

On the other hand, Rachel Maddow is a fool with no valid opinions, which is why RushMC disagrees with everything she says. Anyone who thinks she is right is being fed lies and they are buying into them. People who support her have never listened to her. If they did listen, like RushMC does, they would know!



This is pretty bad coming from you

I have not said RL is smart
I have not said anyone needs to agree with them

But I know that if you or anyone listened to him, you would not call him a racist..You might call him an idot, fearmonger or something else, but not a racist

But that is not the agenda here
The agenda from you and others, is to first, try and shut him up, and next, try and do the same to those who defend him

You should, by now anyway, know that will fail with me. Because this type of shit does not bother me
So, you are more than welcome to go through life being wrong

It is your choice after all
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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But I know that if you or anyone listened to him, you would not call him a racist..You might call him an idot, fearmonger



I never called him a racist, but I did say he's a fear monger (in different words). You told me I didn't listen to him.

Make up your mind.

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billvon

That's completely different! Rush Limbaugh is a smart guy with solid opinions who speaks the truth (or more accurately what RushMC wants to hear.) Anyone who thinks he is wrong, or a racist, or a clueless entertainer is just misinformed. Or they never listened to him. Or they listened to him, but don't listen intelligently like RushMC does.

On the other hand, Rachel Maddow is a fool with no valid opinions, which is why RushMC disagrees with everything she says. Anyone who thinks she is right is being fed lies and they are buying into them. People who support her have never listened to her. If they did listen, like RushMC does, they would know!



I have listened to roughly equal amounts of Rush and Rachel, finding neither particularly appealing. Both seem to be quick to attribute to conspiracy that which smacks of incompetence if the source is one they oppose, and both are strangely silent regarding transgressions on the side to which they adhere. My take is that dunderheadedness knows no political persuasion.

At least Rush was quoted as claiming to be an entertainer, as opposed to a political philosopher or whatever it was that he was accused of being. Rachel, as a talking head,postures as a credible source.

As far as being right goes, a broken clock is right twice a day (an analog one, at least). People I like a lot have been completely wrong about some things, and people I despise have been spot on about others. I hold suspect those who evaluate data as a popularity contest.


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"Barack the Magic Negro" was first applied to presidential candidate Obama by the Movie and Culture critic David Ehrenstein in a Los Angeles Times op ed column on March 19, 2007.

From the article:

"But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro .

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest."

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On the other hand, Rachel Maddow is a fool with no valid opinions, which is why RushMC disagrees with everything she says. Anyone who thinks she is right is being fed lies and they are buying into them. People who support her have never listened to her. If they did listen, like RushMC does, they would know!



You really shouldn't generalize. And your statement couldn't be more inaccurate! Maddow was degreed at Stanford and then went on to a Phd. in philosophy at Oxford! IMO she is the embodiment of everything Rush hates, which is an intelligent, well spoken, well educated minority. That has more to do with why more people would disagree with her than the actual message she carries. For the sake of humility, I won't even mention the education received by Rush.

But alas, Rachel Maddow and Rush DO have on e thing in common - Both of their programs are entertainment. IMO Maddow includes more reasonable information to go with the entertainment than Rush, who seems to spew a lot of hot air and doesn't have much substance resembling any sort of reasonable, factual , or valid arguments.

I take issue with your assuming that I've HEARD rush but never LISTENED to him. Of course I have - many hours, actually. That's how I reached my conclusion that he is nothing more than a shock jock. There's just so little coherent substance to his words that most intelligent and ethical free thinkers can't bear to be subject to his psycho babble.

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