The beginning of your baby belongs to the government

[regulator 0]

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1684488551001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAACC1lKhk~,ZvV6UsgbjjZzy5iAEyU8skbXMqWBZ-rJ&bctid=2328583674001

So Melissa Harris-Perry recently said that children don't belong to their parents. They belong to the government.

This must be the beginning.

[mistercwood 287]

The MHP thing was already, IMO, taken out of context. This is a pretty big stretch to link the two. I'm reserving judgement on this case for the time being, I'd like to hear more from the first hospital on what their opinion was on the child's health. The interviewers kept emphasising that CPS take a lot of advice from medical professionals, and that the second doctor said everything was just fine. Clearly the first hospital disagreed. they could well be wrong, but I'd like to hear their side...

You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly.

[billvon 3,132]

>This must be the beginning.

The beginning? After Obama imposed Sharia law, ceded control of the US to Al Qaeda, grabbed all your guns and made gay marriage mandatory, how can you say it's just the BEGINNING?

[ManagingPrime 0]

Stanford will weight in now.

http://m.news10.net/localnews/article?a=243286&f=1286

[GeorgiaDon 385]

So Regulator, is it your argument that parents own their children? Own implies that children are property, doesn't it? So why can't parents throw their kids in the trash if they get tired of them? Or use them to harvest organs? Or eat them when times get tough?

Or might it be that children are persons, with the same basic human rights that their parents have? Including the right to life, or not be deprived of life on the whim of someone, even a parent?

Most people can agree that the protection of human rights is a fundamental responsibility of governments. In this case, there is a disagreement between the parents and a hospital about a potentially life threatening medical condition. The government has a duty to resolve the dispute and ensure the rights of the child are protected.

Parents are caregivers who are responsible for their children, but they do not own their kids and cannot do absolutely whatever they please. But, perhaps you disagree?

Don

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[rushmc 23]

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So Regulator, is it your argument that parents own their children? Own implies that children are property, doesn't it? So why can't parents throw their kids in the trash if they get tired of them? Or use them to harvest organs? Or eat them when times get tough?

Or might it be that children are persons, with the same basic human rights that their parents have? Including the right to life, or not be deprived of life on the whim of someone, even a parent?

Most people can agree that the protection of human rights is a fundamental responsibility of governments. In this case, there is a disagreement between the parents and a hospital about a potentially life threatening medical condition. The government has a duty to resolve the dispute and ensure the rights of the child are protected.

Parents are caregivers who are responsible for their children, but they do not own their kids and cannot do absolutely whatever they please. But, perhaps you disagree?

Don

Or kill them before they are born if you dont want to take responcibility for your own actions.

But regardless

Given what is known here (so far) the gov when too far

Hope the parents get the child back along with a boat load of cash

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,182]

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So Melissa Harris-Perry recently said that children don't belong to their parents. They belong to the government.

This must be the beginning.

Certainly the case in the states that are continually trying to ban abortion.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[GeorgiaDon 385]

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So Melissa Harris-Perry recently said that children don't belong to their parents. They belong to the government.

This must be the beginning.

Certainly the case in the states that are continually trying to ban abortion.

Not just the kids, it's also women's bodies that belong to the government. But I doubt you'll hear Regulator or Marc complain about that.

Don

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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)

[regulator 0]

Nobody belongs to the government.

Is it really that hard for you to figure out?

[billvon 3,132]

>Nobody belongs to the government.

Some people think that women's wombs belong to the government - including many people in this very thread.

[regulator 0]

Oh you mean like this fine upstanding young lady?

SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUW2vCPX7w

[billvon 3,132]

>SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!

Yep - and it's her.