regulator 0 #1 April 25, 2013 Now new york schools think the only way to prevent bullying of lesbians is to force every girl to kiss another girl...yeah like that's going to make a difference. Outraged parents say a New York middle school instructed young female students to ask one another for a lesbian kiss – and boys learned how to spot young sluts – in an anti-bullying presentation on gender identity and sexual orientation, according to Fox News’ Todd Starnes. According to Starnes’ Report, the children attended a special April 11 health class taught by college students at Linden Avenue Middle School in Red Hook, N.Y. Parents say they were not notified of the presentation. The students were introduced to terms such as “pansexual” and “genderqueer.” Some of the young female students said they were told it was common for 14-year-old girls to have sex and their parents couldn’t stop them. Mandy Coon, a mother of an eighth-grade student said, “I am furious. I am her parent. Where does anyone get the right to tell her that it’s OK for her to have sex?” According to Fox News, Coon said her daughter was distressed by the presentation and wondered why she’d been required to ask another girl to kiss her. “She told me, ‘Mom, we all get teased and picked on enough – now I’m going to be called a lesbian because I had to ask another girl if I could kiss her,’” Coon said. According to the mother, the school said the lesson was meant to “teach girls boundaries and how to say no.” “They also picked two girls to stand in front of the class and pretend they were lesbians on a date,” Coons said. The Poughkeepsie Journal reported that Red Hook Central School District Superintendent Paul Finch said the class focused on “improving culture, relationships, communication and self-perceptions.” Finch said it is mandatory that the middle school teach those issues in accordance with the state’s Dignity for All Students Act. Parent Tara Burns told Fox News, “The school is overstepping its bounds in not notifying parents first and giving us the choice. I thought it was very inappropriate. That kind of instruction is best left up to the parents.” Parents of middle-school boys were outraged by the school’s lessons on condom usage and determining whether a girl is a slut. “I was absolutely furious – really furious,” said one parent of a 13-year-old boy. “They were teaching the boys how to decipher if a girl is a slut.” According to the parent, who wished to remain anonymous, boys were told to determine whether girls are promiscuous by the way they dress or the number of boys they date. “We don’t judge people like that in our family,” she said. “We don’t call women names because of what they wear or who they date.” According to Fox News, the parent also said boys were instructed to always carry condoms in their wallets. “These are just kids,” she said. “I’m dumbfounded that they found this class was appropriate.” http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/school-forces-all-girls-to-lesbian-kiss/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #2 April 25, 2013 Interesting. Some of it sounds potentially over-the-line. The boys being asked to "determine" that girls are sluts by the way they dress or the number of partners they have? I bet eleventy bajillion internet dollars the answer and goal was it didn't mean shit, you've got no place calling any girl a slut. Without seeing the material itself, I already see way too much hysteria... I'm open to clearer examples though.You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #3 April 25, 2013 If this really happened I could see a massive lawsuit coming. If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher who demanded my daughter kiss another girl in front of the class and then sued them myself. If this is how someone thinks is the best way to counter bullying then that person is a total fucking idiot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #4 April 25, 2013 QuoteMandy Coon, Pffffttt!!!!!! Seriously??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #5 April 25, 2013 Another story. They were told to ask each other for lesbian kisses, not to perform them. QuoteZahedi took to a Facebook forum for parents to defend the workshop. She wrote that the lesson was "not to pretend to be gay" but to practice saying "no" to unwarranted advances. In planning the discussion, we made it clear that absolutely no discussion of any sexual acts is appropriate to middle school, and they used the examples of a kiss. It was a separate activity for boys and girls and ultimately about respect and safety."I'm not convinced it was the best-designed exercise, but it wasn't training them to be little orgiasts, either. Surprising thing, this spin stuff, huh? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #6 April 25, 2013 QuoteAnother story. They were told to ask each other for lesbian kisses, not to perform them. QuoteZahedi took to a Facebook forum for parents to defend the workshop. She wrote that the lesson was "not to pretend to be gay" but to practice saying "no" to unwarranted advances. In planning the discussion, we made it clear that absolutely no discussion of any sexual acts is appropriate to middle school, and they used the examples of a kiss. It was a separate activity for boys and girls and ultimately about respect and safety."I'm not convinced it was the best-designed exercise, but it wasn't training them to be little orgiasts, either. Surprising thing, this spin stuff, huh? Wendy P. Neither was that teacher who just got disciplined for giving her students an assignment to craft an essay from an anti-semitic viewpoint. Tough task teachers have: how to be creative and innovative to grab the students' attention and get them to actually learn something lasting and meaningful, instead of being boring, without taking undue risk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #7 April 25, 2013 Quote If this really happened I could see a massive lawsuit coming. If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher who demanded my daughter kiss another girl in front of the class and then sued them myself. If this is how someone thinks is the best way to counter bullying then that person is a total fucking idiot. I saw the wording as being asked to ask another person to kiss them, and teaching the recipient to say no. Regardless of gender. I've seen no "demand" in any of the quotes so far, just hysteria. If the teacher was in fact demanding any student actually kiss another student, regardless of gender, I'd be right there with you. I'm doubtful that's the case here because such a person would be, as you say, a total fucking idiot. We're definitely in agreement on that... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #8 April 25, 2013 Quote Quote If this really happened I could see a massive lawsuit coming. So you are suspect of Fox News reporting, that's good "baby steps" Quote If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher who demanded my daughter kiss another girl in front of the class and then sued them myself. You need to work on your reading comprehension, they were told to "ask" according to the article you cited. Quote If this is how someone thinks is the best way to counter bullying then that person is a total fucking idiot. By trying to have others put themselves in the shoes of those who are often bullied, well that's actually pretty common. eta - Your thread title needs a massive overhaul. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #9 April 25, 2013 QuoteFinch said it is mandatory that the middle school teach those issues in accordance with the state’s Dignity for All Students Act. {{Looking under the hood for a bit, tweaking with some wires and components}} "Well, that THERE is yer problem" ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #10 April 25, 2013 That was the name of the article. Just a re-iteration. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #11 April 25, 2013 > If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher . . . . Hey, if that's what you're into . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #12 April 25, 2013 Quote > If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher . . . . Hey, if that's what you're into . . . I'm outraged that this school is forcing kids to learn how to eskimo kissDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #13 April 25, 2013 QuoteThat was the name of the article. Just a re-iteration.So since the article turned out to have a misleading title (in other words, a lie), will you be choosing other news sources in the future? Or checking the data in the ones that you post from that source? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #14 April 25, 2013 >So since the article turned out to have a misleading title (in other words, a lie), will >you be choosing other news sources in the future? Or checking the data in the ones >that you post from that source? Now don't get all unreasonable, Wendy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 April 25, 2013 Quote Quote > If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher . . . . Hey, if that's what you're into . . . I'm outraged that this school is forcing kids to learn how to eskimo kiss "inuit" please ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #16 April 25, 2013 Quote"inuit"u nu wat? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,610 #17 April 25, 2013 Quote Quote Quote > If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher . . . . Hey, if that's what you're into . . . I'm outraged that this school is forcing kids to learn how to eskimo kiss "inuit" please It's PC sexual deviants like you that are sending society to the dogs.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #18 April 25, 2013 Quote Quote "inuit" u nu wat? Wendy P. In your what?WENDY?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #19 April 25, 2013 QuoteQuoteThat was the name of the article. Just a re-iteration.So since the article turned out to have a misleading title (in other words, a lie), will you be choosing other news sources in the future? Or checking the data in the ones that you post from that source? Wendy P. hahahahahahaha when pigs fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 385 #20 April 25, 2013 QuoteIf I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher ...So you'd be giving them an Eskimo kiss? As opposed to a lesbian kiss? Curious that you think forcefully Eskimo kissing the teacher OK, but to you teaching kids it's OK to say "no" to unwanted advances is a big affront. Something about that doesn't add up; or maybe it does, but I don't much like the answer. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,602 #21 April 25, 2013 "nu" is also "knew." "n u" would be "in u". Bill posted "i nu it" so I just wanted to know what he knew Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #22 April 25, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote > If I was a parent of one of the girls I would have been touching noses with the teacher . . . . Hey, if that's what you're into . . . I'm outraged that this school is forcing kids to learn how to eskimo kiss "inuit" please It's PC sexual deviants like you that are sending society to the dogs. See.. With liberals like you, it's a slippery slope... Dogs, cats, soon you'll be asking if you can marry your rhododendron.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 385 #23 April 25, 2013 Quote"inuit" pleaseYep, I know that but I was speaking American so as to not confuse the target audience (at least, any more than I probably already did). Actually I'm pleasantly surprised that you and others apparently know the difference between Inuit and Eskimo, most Americans I've talked to where the subject came up had no clue. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #24 April 25, 2013 Yew wuz tawkin 'Muriken, boy, none of that pussified hoy-dee toy-dee librul "American" stuff. Nice. Any more insulting stereotypes you want to throw around?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #25 April 26, 2013 >Yew wuz tawkin 'Muriken, boy, none of that pussified hoy-dee toy-dee librul "American" stuff. >Nice. Any more insulting stereotypes you want to throw around? Between you and Don you hit both of the most common ones here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
