rushmc 23 #1 April 24, 2013 But yet it will take a judge to try and stop him Why? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-04-23/obama-deportation-progam-likely-to-be-blocked-judge-says QuoteAnnounced by Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano last year, the directive gives agents the ability to defer action on people unlawfully in the U.S. if they came to the country under the age of 16, are in school or have obtained a high school diploma, haven’t been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or multiple misdemeanors, and aren’t a threat to public safety or national security. “The court finds that DHS does not have discretion to refuse to initiate removal proceedings” when the requirements for deportation under a federal statute are met, O’Connor said today in a 38-page decision, referring to the Department of Homeland Security. I tell you why The media lets him get away with it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #2 April 24, 2013 another source QuoteHomeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano does not have the authority to refuse to enforce laws that require illegal immigrants to face deportation, according to the federal judge hearing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement union’s lawsuit against DHS. “The court finds that DHS does not have discretion to refuse to initiate removal proceedings [when the law requires it],” U.S. District Judge Reed O’Connor said today, per Business Week. O’Connor asked DHS and the ICE union to offer additional arguments before he makes a final ruling on the legality of President Obama’s “deferred action on childhood arrivals” (DACA) program, which invoked prosecutorial discretion as a means of allowing people to stay in the country if they would have qualified for amnesty under the DREAM Act, which never passed through Congress. snipwitty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #3 April 24, 2013 QuoteQuoteBut yet it will take a judge to try and stop him Why? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-04-23/obama-deportation-progam-likely-to-be-blocked-judge-says ***Announced by Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano last year, the directive gives agents the ability to defer action on people unlawfully in the U.S. if they came to the country under the age of 16, are in school or have obtained a high school diploma, haven’t been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or multiple misdemeanors, and aren’t a threat to public safety or national security. “The court finds that DHS does not have discretion to refuse to initiate removal proceedings” when the requirements for deportation under a federal statute are met, O’Connor said today in a 38-page decision, referring to the Department of Homeland Security. I tell you why The media lets him get away with it This is absolutely a battle that the Right needs to really focus in on. Never mind that attitudes like this towards Hispanics will stop the GOP from ever obtaining the White House again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 April 24, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteBut yet it will take a judge to try and stop him Why? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-04-23/obama-deportation-progam-likely-to-be-blocked-judge-says ***Announced by Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano last year, the directive gives agents the ability to defer action on people unlawfully in the U.S. if they came to the country under the age of 16, are in school or have obtained a high school diploma, haven’t been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or multiple misdemeanors, and aren’t a threat to public safety or national security. “The court finds that DHS does not have discretion to refuse to initiate removal proceedings” when the requirements for deportation under a federal statute are met, O’Connor said today in a 38-page decision, referring to the Department of Homeland Security. I tell you why The media lets him get away with it This is absolutely a battle that the Right needs to really focus in on. Never mind that attitudes like this towards Hispanics will stop the GOP from ever obtaining the White House again. So, give up pricipal to get elected Got it But this thread is about power of branches of government But to follow your lead, you would have Obama do this so no republican will ever get in the WH again Correct?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #5 April 24, 2013 Should this country be based on the rule of law or not? I say yes. I also am not completely opposed to Rubio's proposed immigration law. I'm all for them changing the law to make it better, if they can. I am not for ignoring the law that is in place just because you don't like it.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #6 April 24, 2013 QuoteBut yet it will take a judge to try and stop him The irony. QuoteThe case was filed by attorney Kris Kobach, who also serves as Kansas Secretary of State and is a national Republican Party adviser. Lead plaintiff Christopher L. Crane is president of the National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council, a 7,600- member federal immigration agents’ union. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #7 April 24, 2013 QuoteThe media lets him get away with it Apparently they didn't. - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #8 April 24, 2013 Why is it ironic, that a law enforcement officer's union is opposed to their superiors in the executive branch failing to enforce the law after the LEOs do the dangerous grunt work?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #9 April 24, 2013 QuoteQuoteShould this country be based on the rule of law or not? I say yes. I also am not completely opposed to Rubio's proposed immigration law. I'm all for them changing the law to make it better, if they can. I am not for ignoring the law that is in place just because you don't like it. Currently the rule of law would require the rounding up, detaining, and deportation of 10 million people, I don't see anyone, from any party proposing that we do that. And just for the record, there has never been a President to have deported as many illegal aliens as Obama. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #10 April 24, 2013 QuoteWhy is it ironic, that a law enforcement officer's union...I going to go out on a limb here and suggest that their interest in the matter is exactly the same as why prison guard unions spend so much money to lobby against decriminalization of drugs. $$$$$$$$$$ Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #11 April 24, 2013 QuoteShould this country be based on the rule of law or not? I say yes.So in your opinion has law enforcement been derelict in its duty in Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, New York, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maryland, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Florida? Adultery is against the law in all of those states, punishable by either a fine or jail sentence (up to life imprisonment in Michigan). It is also an offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. When was the last time you ever heard of anyone going to jail for adultery? Newt Gingrich is a Georgia resident and admitted serial adulterer, yet he has never been charged, fined, or imprisoned. Shouldn't the laws against adultery be enforced? They are on the books! Those same states also have laws against fornication. Should they also be enforced? But no, adultery and fornication are as common as speeding, which also isn't enforced as long as you don't push it too far. But those snot-nosed little brown kids who were brought here when they were infants, who have grown up here and know no other culture, some of whom don't even speak Spanish, now they are the dangerous ones. Run them out on a rail. Maybe you can get a good kick in for good measure. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #12 April 24, 2013 >Shouldn't the laws against adultery be enforced? They are on the books! I bet he's fine with not enforcing them! Against the Rule of Law he is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #13 April 24, 2013 Why do you kick Spanish kids? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #14 April 24, 2013 Quote Against the Rule of Law he is. Wish we had a Yoda emoticon. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #15 April 25, 2013 QuoteQuoteShould this country be based on the rule of law or not? I say yes.So in your opinion has law enforcement been derelict in its duty in Virginia When was the last time you ever heard of anyone going to jail for adultery? Don Virginia just had a case charged for Sodomy. Predictably it was thrown out based on Lawrence v. Texas."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaDon 380 #16 April 25, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteShould this country be based on the rule of law or not? I say yes.So in your opinion has law enforcement been derelict in its duty in Virginia When was the last time you ever heard of anyone going to jail for adultery? Don Virginia just had a case charged for Sodomy. Predictably it was thrown out based on Lawrence v. Texas.As it should have been, in my opinion, but my opinion is not what matters. But has the law been rescinded? Did the courts strike down the laws against adultery or fornication? According to Kennedy, it would seem that as long as the law is on the books law enforcement should spare no expense to prosecute every offender. Every law must be enforced in every circumstance, or else we become a lawless society. Don_____________________________________ Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996) “Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites