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An office can get in deep shit for critiquing other officers, even if e is correct and tries to maintain a professional bearing. Also, most cops won't pass judgment on other cops without having the whole picture, because so much of what cops do is based on immediate reaction to "the totality of the circumstances". Without having been there, or at least heard both sides' full account, it's rare that a video can give you the entire story.



Agree on both parts. It is unprofessional to make judgement on colleagues with incomplete information, starting with the directions given by the chain of command. And (less positive in my mind), it is a violation of the cop code to speak out about the wrong or illegal actions of fellow officers. A violation that could get you abandoned in a bad situation.

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More of a metaphor in this case.



maybe this is the problem. We're talking about rights, and you're talking about metaphors.



On the whole, I'd prefer the LEOs to search my house without a warrant during a manhunt than to shoot up my vehicle with me inside it during a manhunt. But that's just me.
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Dave, you're the LEO in the room. Care to opine - directly - on the elephant in the room?



I'm guessing Dave wants to remain a professional about this and not comment since no matter what he says could potentially have ramifications.

Let's respect his fifth.



You'll notice that in threads like this I'll talk about general police practices, overviews and general concepts, but I usually don't dive into the nitty gritty. Well, that's on purpose.

Law enforcement is one of those professions where everyone has an opinion, even though the large majority of the people expressing their opinion have no experience about the profession beyond watching some TV shows and receiving a traffic citation. Law enforcement is an exceptionally challenging profession that takes a high level of professionalism, a high level of training, education and ability. Major achievements are typically ignored but minor mistakes are career ending.

For everyone wondering what they could do to see "behind the curtain" you should contact your local agency and inquire about a Citizen's Police Academy and/or completing a ride along. If you've never thought about this, please give it a thought. You'll have an eye opening experience. You might even have some fun!
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I'm talking about Dave, one of our friends who could potentially get fucked over depending on statements he makes on-line.

What I'm saying is, be cool and don't make judgements based on if he decides not to participate in this discussion.



No one has. But it's not what the 5th is about. You've said things about the 2nd, 4th, 5th that suggest you're more of a DiFi sort of Democrat.

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More of a metaphor in this case.



maybe this is the problem. We're talking about rights, and you're talking about metaphors.



I'm talking about Dave, one of our friends who could potentially get fucked over depending on statements he makes on-line.

What I'm saying is, be cool and don't make judgements based on if he decides not to participate in this discussion.



Thanks and you're right, officers all around the country lose their jobs and get in trouble for their remarks on line. Those of you who have been around DZ.com for the past 10 years or more will notice a change in what I argue or post about. Those of you who are friends with me on Facebook will probably notice that I generally post funny stories, stuff about my kids and a LOT of photos (since photography is a serious hobby).
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Then why is a debate going on?


Because it appears there are people who are willing to give themselves and their rights up to the state
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I'm talking about Dave, one of our friends who could potentially get fucked over depending on statements he makes on-line.

What I'm saying is, be cool and don't make judgements based on if he decides not to participate in this discussion.



That's insightful, courteous and helpful.

but screw him if he can't make a url clicky.... :D:D

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What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss?



a quarter....it bounced off my hand and fell off of the dock


How did you find out if it was heads or tails? You're living in limbo:o
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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He's not in limbo. He on the quantum state of the flip being both heads and tails. He's got the best of both worlds. He didn't lose anything.
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Has Watertown Made Warrantless Searches The 'New Normal'?

Everyone should watch the video halfway down the article.

Apparently the new description of these raid-searches is "Rescuing Residents From Their Houses".



You make it sound like William Calley destroying My Lai in order to save it.



I'm not making it sound that way. It is that way. But the Newspeak(tm) experts have named it so it won't sound as bad as it actually is.
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He's not in limbo. He on the quantum state of the flip being both heads and tails. He's got the best of both worlds. He didn't lose anything.



What if someone dredges the harbour and finds the coin? One whole life could collapse out of existence - what if it's this one?

Two sided coins are a government conspiracy to control our decisions.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Well if it's -his- cat, then there both is and isn't a cat till we look, right? Probabilistic wavestate function collapse. So, how do we know if the coin even got wet? Is this like Heisenberg's uncertainly buttered coin?
If a buttered coin with a cat taped to it falls in the ocean and nobody looks at it, did it get wet?
Or does it just mean we can't tell how fast it's moving or if it got wet, at the same time? Because if it got wet, it means it fell in the ocean because the cat wasn't there and thus didn't work, so we know where the coin is, (in the ocean) and thus cannot determine its velocity due to the absence of the cat.
Whoa.
I swear if we turn this over and shake the box a few times Warp Drive is gonna fall out.
Or maybe just a pissed off cat. If there is one.
Billvon help me out, here. I'm dizzy.
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