Channman 2 #51 April 19, 2013 Quote No doubt, our media is in a total shambles (a whole other discussion on that topic I could go on for days It just really gets under my skin when people are more concerned with their political agenda, 'saving face', whatever instead of nailing this assholes regardless of their motivation. Turning this into a game of "I told you so", "neener neener, it was him" distracts from the real issues. Apparently this particular situation has me a little more riled up than usual Well many of us are riled up. This terrorist is more than riled up and has only death on his mind. It's all our hopes that the men and women looking for him stay safe and are able to capture him alive so they can gather info on motive and those that have provided support. Have a Blessed day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #52 April 19, 2013 We are being sarcastic and commenting on how badly the media wanted this to be a white male. Now that it turns out it may be an Islamic terrorist, they are disappointed. I then commented, sarcastically that at least it wasn't a Mexican. Apparently some who can't understand the point being made, feel it is necessary to make one up they can agree with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #53 April 19, 2013 I would disagree with your assertion of "the media." Some clearly did, some didn't appear to. But then, of course, I'm not real big on generalizations. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #54 April 19, 2013 Oh, and on another level, I mentioned an illegal Mexican with the incorrect assumption that someone would understand the implications regarding the present political debate going on in regards to our immigration policy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #55 April 19, 2013 We weren't talking about the entire media, just the small segment that hoped this would be a white male. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aphid 0 #56 April 19, 2013 QuoteIt just really gets under my skin when people are more concerned with their political agenda, 'saving face', whatever instead of nailing this assholes regardless of their motivation. THIS! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #57 April 19, 2013 Bear in mind no one knows why these two did any of this yet. Sure, they hail from a predominantly Islamic area of the world though the family fled the place 10 years ago. Reports from people who know them seem to indicate they're just normal guys. Hell one quote is "An unidentified friend told CNN that he 'hung out, went to parties, smoked some weed... its not like he's some foreign dude." Sure, it could be that they're seeking to join the global jihad and they're secretly hardcore Islamic nutjobs. They could be just be a pair of common or garden nutters with no particular ideology. They might just as easily be right or left wing nutters of some form. No one's actually flown a flag yet. Continuing to jump to wild conclusions based solely on where the family hails is just that - continuing to jump to wild conclusions - what everyone here is castigating the press for doing all along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #58 April 19, 2013 QuoteQuoteIt just really gets under my skin when people are more concerned with their political agenda, 'saving face', whatever instead of nailing this assholes regardless of their motivation. THIS! Funny how some are so blinded with assumptions that they cannot even recognise when they are in full agreement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #59 April 19, 2013 That's the stated reason for some people to have wished this was a white US-born American. Because then people would focus on the individual reasons, rather than trying to immediately jump to some box-based conclusion. Regardless of anything, I think they ought to keep focus on the individual reasons for this, if they can be established. No one has focused on the white Christian nature of the guy who committed the shootings in north Texas -- he had a reason. Maybe these guys do, too. Not a valid reason, but it's in the individual motivation. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #60 April 19, 2013 The next person who uses a marathon bombing thread to score political points will be banned permanently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #61 April 19, 2013 QuoteThe next person who uses a marathon bombing thread to score political points will be banned permanently. Isn't this the Speaker's Corner? Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #62 April 19, 2013 > Isn't this the Speaker's Corner? Yep, and in the 20640 other threads, feel free to have all the usual pointless arguments. Just not in these threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldwomanc6 60 #63 April 20, 2013 Listening on the police scanner, and apparently suspect #2 is on a boat, and now after the flash bangs, he is no longer moving.lisa WSCR 594 FB 1023 CBDB 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites