Andy9o8 2 #26 April 12, 2013 Quote Stereotypes are for the lazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #27 April 12, 2013 Quote Quote Stereotypes are for the lazy. all emoticon users are the same ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #28 April 12, 2013 QuoteQuoteWhy should "faith" get a pass with respect to violating the rules of math and the laws of physics? it doesn't, I just don't bother with the discussion for that tiny segment of people because it's a waste of my time and theirs. For that matter, I don't give 'faith' a pass or judgement. I take each individual only and act accordingly. They don't represent ALL the faithful any more than I represent everyone of a more agnostic persuasion. Stereotypes are for the lazy. Just because a tiny percentage people of faith lean a bit "too much" on some silly stuff, doesn't mean we get carte blanche treat the majority of the rest as having the same issues. Most are able to keep perspective just fine. "Tiny percentage"? You should spend some time in the Christian South.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 April 12, 2013 Quote"Tiny percentage"? You should spend some time in the Christian South. if it's not tiny, then I'd just as soon stay away from there Up here, it's the exception, not the norm. And people of faith are pretty much the same as those that aren't. I usually let the extremes of both positions just kinda piss on each other and I stay out of it. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #30 April 15, 2013 Quote Well, when the Vulcans do decide to make contact with us, I'm sure they'll be interested in understanding our history and of course when the designated human explains I'm sure one Vulcan will reply, "Illogical but fascinating." I'm not going to attempt to allay your concerns or your fears that you believe are legitimate in this debate. Accordingly, I'll share mine here. When seconds count and your life hangs in the balance confronting an assailant, the cops are minutes away. So...I carry a gun with a permit. Why do I carry a gun? Simple...a cop is just too heavy. Here in Virginia (where I live) we have a pretty low violent crime rate simply because as a "shall issue" State of concealed carry permits, many Virginians have CCW permits and at any given time in any crowd of people no one knows who's packing and who's not and the dirtbags think twice. Yes there have been tragedies such as the VTech killings. I'm not going to say this massacre was an aberration. I will call it a monstrous tragedy and little can be said up or down will bring comfort to the surviving family members. In a free society, the sad fact we balance is that free will is also exercised by the evil and the violent much to our sorrow. Even in a disarmed society, NO ONE is going to prevent such sorrow and misery. There is also a question about vesting to the federal, state, and local governments, a monopoly on violence. I don't believe in the perfectibility of human beings and when human beings obtain power that is unchecked, they see opportunities to exert their influence we "the little people" have to endure. A healthy and rational mistrust of elected politicians is necessary and I want those elected politicians to keep in the back of their minds that if they get too far out of line, the guns will be pointed at them to cease and desist. We are a governed people; governed at our consent; NOT a ruled people. Deterence works. Finally, let's discuss an item of common ground...skydiving. I think all of us can agree to a large extent that the privilidges and fun we all enjoy as skydivers is balanced by a sense of individual and collective responsibility we all adhere to and establish in the community. I don't find the rules and guidelines excessive. I also get a sense in both observation and discussion that skydivers both collectively and individually don't like outsiders meddling with the sport. Give a bunch of politicians and bureaucrats an opening to impose additional regulations on us that in our learned and experienced opinion amounts to something more useless than cow patties, then watch the rebellion and the pushback ensue. Remember, that when there's no one left to come after, they'll be coming after you! Would you rather die standing up or live on your knees? well said. I'll stand and fight if necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
