DougH 270 #26 April 11, 2013 Actually a back flow preventer isn't a bad idea. You can get the hose to siphon backwards from the pool into the house. I don't think it could happen on city water, but not unheard of with a well."The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #27 April 11, 2013 Quote Or take the left's approach, and arrest any parent that tries to teach a child to swim. Not all of the left. I'm not interested in banning "pools", it's a pointless endeavour. I'm in favour of mandatory "swimming" lessons as part of "pool" ownership... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #28 April 11, 2013 QuoteActually a back flow preventer isn't a bad idea. You can get the hose to siphon backwards from the pool into the house. I don't think it could happen on city water, but not unheard of with a well. We don't have a well. Try and get city water to backflow into the house from the pool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #29 April 11, 2013 >And get this, you need to have a device on the outside water spiqot to keep pool water >from going up the hose back into the house so that drinking water is not effected by >pool water. Can you believe that. Like pool water is going to flow from the pool up the >hose back into the house. Pretty common during water system problems actually. If water gets shut off (not that uncommon) and anyone in your neighborhood opens a tap that's lower than your pool - they'll be getting your pool water out their tap. Simple physics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #30 April 11, 2013 Never as long as I have lived, in the place where I've lived and I've lived in a couple of places has city water ever be shut off. Also, never is the garden hose in the pool when the water is turned off. Dumb law. IMO What do you know about the 3 foot wide ground grid around the pool. Thus far, no one, including city officials gave a reasonable explanation as to why it was needed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CygnusX-1 43 #31 April 11, 2013 QuoteNever as long as I have lived, in the place where I've lived and I've lived in a couple of places has city water ever be shut off. Also, never is the garden hose in the pool when the water is turned off. Dumb law. IMO What do you know about the 3 foot wide ground grid around the pool. Thus far, no one, including city officials gave a reasonable explanation as to why it was needed? Really? What type of system do you have installed that monitors the water pressure 24/7/365? I've been looking for one that monitors the pressure and logs the data so that I will know if and when the pressure drops to unsafe levels. The only thing I can come up with regarding the grid is if something (not someone) get struck by lightning like a diving board, slide, or whatever else my be protruding above the surrounding area. Then you would want a lower resistance to ground than through the water of the pool. Just in case you were too stupid enough (or unlucky enough) to be swimming during a lightning storm or with one near by. I think we can all thank lawyers - but more importantly juries - for these types of laws. We are our own worst enemy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #32 April 11, 2013 Forgot to mention: my crystal clear pool water is cleaner than city water. Drinkable. The neighbors could only hope to have this water at the tap. BTW. The pool is well fortified from water thieves when the cities falther due to democrats bankrupting the infrastructure. We have water bazookas on the roof overlooking the pool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #33 April 11, 2013 Here I thought this was a wholesome gun thread, and you people are babbling on about f$%^&*g pools. Is it true there's a chlorine tablet shortage? Commie bastards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanG 1 #34 April 11, 2013 QuoteForgot to mention: my crystal clear pool water is cleaner than city water. Drinkable. You don't chlorinate your pool? How do you keep bacteria and algae from growing? - Dan G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #35 April 11, 2013 >Never as long as I have lived, in the place where I've lived and I've lived in a couple >of places has city water ever be shut off Hmm. We have them here pretty regularly, mainly when they are adding water mains to new developments/streets. They are pretty good about warning us when they know about it, although in some cases (the backhoe whacking through a water main) it's unexpected. >Also, never is the garden hose in the pool when the water is turned off. Good! Unfortunately most people aren't that conscientious. >What do you know about the 3 foot wide ground grid around the pool. Generally it's 5 feet per NEC 680.26. Everything metal within 5 feet of the water has to be grounded, so that during electrical faults you have the best chance of keeping pool water/nearby materials at close to ground potential. (And pools, since they have poorly maintained high power pumps in direct contact with water, and generally have wires running around the perimeter of the pool, have a fairly high potential for faults.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #36 April 11, 2013 Quote>Never as long as I have lived, in the place where I've lived and I've lived in a couple >of places has city water ever be shut off Hmm. We have them here pretty regularly, mainly when they are adding water mains to new developments/streets. They are pretty good about warning us when they know about it, although in some cases (the backhoe whacking through a water main) it's unexpected. >Also, never is the garden hose in the pool when the water is turned off. Good! Unfortunately most people aren't that conscientious. >What do you know about the 3 foot wide ground grid around the pool. Generally it's 5 feet per NEC 680.26. Everything metal within 5 feet of the water has to be grounded, so that during electrical faults you have the best chance of keeping pool water/nearby materials at close to ground potential. (And pools, since they have poorly maintained high power pumps in direct contact with water, and generally have wires running around the perimeter of the pool, have a fairly high potential for faults.) The grid would have no influence in short of the pool lights. The electric lines that power the pump are no where near the pool, not to say water running though the pump might become electrified, but I doubt it. If lightening struck the pool with you in it, the grid would have no influence. I was told the grid was for getting in and out of the pool during electrical faults. That was it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #37 April 11, 2013 Quote Quote Forgot to mention: my crystal clear pool water is cleaner than city water. Drinkable. You don't chlorinate your pool? How do you keep bacteria and algae from growing? Tap water is chlorinated and so is pool water. But my pool water doesn't have the floride Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #38 April 11, 2013 >The grid would have no influence in short of the pool lights. Pool light hot shorts to ungrounded grid. Grid goes to 120V. Pool is still at ground state. Someone gets out of the pool and is electrocuted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #39 April 11, 2013 Really? You're arguing electricity with billvon? Oh...kay... quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
