Stumpy 284 #26 April 3, 2013 So you are making it up. What a surprise.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #27 April 3, 2013 Quote$400 per hour. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! Hoo-boy, does Mommy's little boy need an enema. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #28 April 3, 2013 Quote Quote $400 per hour. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! Hoo-boy, does Mommy's little boy need an enema. I would think only the high profile attorneys get paid rates like that to defend the rich, maybe even law firms with municipal contracts. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #29 April 3, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Swell; More of my tax dollars wasted on a nutcase. Billy has it right: Lock him up and throw away the key. Right there in the Colorado SuperMax too. Well said, supermax this loon. Just out of curiosity, why put him in Supermax? It's a very expensive choice. Generally reserved for prisoners who present a great deal of danger to guards or other prisoners, or who are a serious escape risk. I don't see this guy as any of that. Put him in regular max, or even medium. In general population. That would be more of a "punishment" than Supermax."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #30 April 3, 2013 Well, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #31 April 3, 2013 QuoteWell, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Still seems higher than giraffe pussy, to me anyway. But what do I know..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #32 April 3, 2013 It's a lot less than $400/hr. that was claimed, though."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #33 April 3, 2013 QuoteQuoteWell, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Still seems higher than giraffe pussy, to me anyway. But what do I know... Malvo and Muhammad were tried between 2003 and 2006. As an aside, the overall costs of their defenses, given the particular complexity of their cases (and many expenses were non-attorney, such as investigators and forensic experts, were unusually expensive - so much so that cherry-picking their cases as "representative examples" amounts basically to either laziness or intellectual dishonesty. Anyhow, here's an ABA state-by-state survey of typical attorney fees in capital cases published in 2003, the relevant time period. http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/legalservices/downloads/sclaid/indigentdefense/compensationratescapital2003.authcheckdam.pdf As you can see, virtually all of the rates were below (some WELL below) $99 per hour. 10 years later, the overall national rates are a little bit higher, but not by very much in very many states. Not apropos of anyone in particular, be wary of random twits with nothing better to do than troll by making shit up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #34 April 3, 2013 Quote Lawyers don't work for the state for free. Count up 10yrs of legal fees at $400 per hour. Also, please consider the book the attorney said he was going to write as additional money earned. Not sure if the book was published. Facts are: it should not cost more to put someone to death than to feed and cloth, provide healthcare, health club equipment to a convicted murderer for the rest of his life. OK, so now someone else can "read it on Google." Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #36 April 4, 2013 QuoteLawyers don't work for the state for free. Count up 10yrs of legal fees at $400 per hour. Also, please consider the book the attorney said he was going to write as additional money earned. Not sure if the book was published. Facts are: it should not cost more to put someone to death than to feed and cloth, provide healthcare, health club equipment to a convicted murderer for the rest of his life. Public defenders make $400 per hour?! I need to have a chat with my boss... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #37 April 4, 2013 QuoteWell, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Of course we all know lawyers pad the bill. Like gov't is keeping track of hours. Hell they can't even keep track of the money they have. Gov't is owned by the lawyers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyBoyd 0 #38 April 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteWell, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Of course we all know lawyers pad the bill. Like gov't is keeping track of hours. Hell they can't even keep track of the money they have. Gov't is owned by the lawyers. Jeez, I didn't get my share of the government. Can you tell me what I'd need to do to get that? On second thought, don't bother. You are either the biggest troll on this site or a complete nitwit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #39 April 4, 2013 Quote You are either the biggest troll on this site or a complete nitwit. I think he has proved these two things are not mutually exclusive.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #40 April 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Of course we all know lawyers pad the bill. Like gov't is keeping track of hours. Hell they can't even keep track of the money they have. Gov't is owned by the lawyers. Jeez, I didn't get my share of the government. Can you tell me what I'd need to do to get that? On second thought, don't bother. You are either the biggest troll on this site or a complete nitwit. I've been asking the same question for years. How do I get in. The fact is you need to be a part of the inside special club that runs the show, all shows, including TV shows that controls the the communications. So you've not wondered why Justice decided not to prosecute Goldman Sacks. You've not wondered why no one goes to jail except pay a small fine as a cost of doing business. Corp lawyers and gov't lawyers work out all the details and everyone walks away happy. Goldman Sach's execu. bonus up 50% over last year as they won not getting prosecuted and there's no money going to paying fines that the execs get the money. Surprising people who worked for the gov't don't have a clue what is going on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 0 #41 April 4, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Well, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Of course we all know lawyers pad the bill. Like gov't is keeping track of hours. Hell they can't even keep track of the money they have. Gov't is owned by the lawyers. Jeez, I didn't get my share of the government. Can you tell me what I'd need to do to get that? On second thought, don't bother. You are either the biggest troll on this site or a complete nitwit. I've been asking the same question for years. How do I get in. The fact is you need to be a part of the inside special club that runs the show, all shows, including TV shows that controls the the communications. So you've not wondered why Justice decided not to prosecute Goldman Sacks. You've not wondered why no one goes to jail except pay a small fine as a cost of doing business. Corp lawyers and gov't lawyers work out all the details and everyone walks away happy. Goldman Sach's execu. bonus up 50% over last year as they won not getting prosecuted and there's no money going to paying fines that the execs get the money. Surprising people who worked for the gov't don't have a clue what is going on. Oh, a bunch of people called me out on making shit up, I guess I'll try and change the subject. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #42 April 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteWell, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Of course we all know lawyers pad the bill. Like gov't is keeping track of hours. Hell they can't even keep track of the money they have. Gov't is owned by the lawyers. Doh!! You made that shit up, too! In every state and federal court I'm aware of, capital fee petitions are submitted to the court and scrutinized with a very, VERY fine-toothed comb. You bet your sweet ass they keep damned close track of the hours. Yes, yes, I know, the judges are in cahoots; they're part of the conspiracy. Anyhow, you made it up, and you need a new foil hat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #43 April 4, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, some actual facts about attorney compensation in VA: **The Supreme Court of Virginia has established separate hourly rate guidelines for capital cases not to exceed $200 per hour in court and $150 per hour out of court. Of course we all know lawyers pad the bill. Like gov't is keeping track of hours. Hell they can't even keep track of the money they have. Gov't is owned by the lawyers. Doh!! You made that shit up, too! In every state and federal court I'm aware of, capital fee petitions are submitted to the court and scrutinized with a very, VERY fine-toothed comb. You bet your sweet ass they keep damned close track of the hours. Yes, yes, I know, the judges are in cahoots; they're part of the conspiracy. Anyhow, you made it up, and you need a new foil hat. They play golf together. Someone must be paying to you to do what you do. Why why would anyone spend so much time attempting to thwart the truth. So you're working for AIPAC? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites