labrys 0 #51 March 27, 2013 QuoteWhat a stupid statement. I guess we couldn't have expected anything better, though. Do I have a history of stupid statements that "we're" aware of? Please enumerate.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #52 March 27, 2013 Just a mean streak. But it's quite understandable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #53 March 27, 2013 Quotehttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage QuoteDefinition of MARRIAGE 1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage And in the Oxford definition, you deliberately edited-out this passage: Quote(in some jurisdictions) a formal union between partners of the same sex. http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/marriage Tsk tsk. That was pretty dishonest of you. But it's still fun having you back to be wrong again. GM was getting lonely. I'll admit I cherry picked if you Dispute #s 3,4,6,&7 then.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #54 March 27, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote What happens when a father gives consent to marry his 14 year old son? So.. you seem to have a basic grasp of the meaning of consent. You just can't use it in sentences yet. What a stupid statement. I guess we couldn't have expected anything better, though. I thought it quite pertinent. Maybe you are exhibiting a Dunning-Kruger behavior. This from one of the snarkiest people ever to post on this website. Is there anyone here you haven't insulted at least a few times? Says a lot about you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #55 March 27, 2013 QuoteThis remains a tough issue for me. On the one hand, I’m all for allowing consenting adults to marry. Let them do whatever they want so long as the consent. Problem: how does one ensure consent in such a situation? Like it or not, and it’s one of the things I absolutely believe MUST be recognized as a society, is the prevalence of abuse between adults and children – including between biological parents and children. When a child (let’s say a daughter) has lived under the absolute control and fear of a father, that ADULT daughter may not feel the ability to consent. In such a case, I may actually be in favor of a presumption that the offspring has not consented to marry and lacks the capacity to consent to marriage in this instance. In the event that the consent is true and real, then either may petition for authority to marry. An abuser, of course, would not want to provide the opportunity for this to happen. Edited to add: Lyram45 - I what are your thoughts on this? You bring up a very good point and example of what could happen in this situation. Honestly, I am not sure how to deal with it. For me personally, even though I am all for "let consenting adults do whatever they want," but then again I still think there is obvious situations where we don't do that, IE: marry your own daughter and risk genetic issues with your kid. In this hypothetical situation of that not being an issue..... I honestly don't know what to do in the situation you outlined. I guess I've never really thought much about it!Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #56 March 27, 2013 Quote I guess I've never really thought much about it! I have. It's how I occupy my spare time. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #57 March 27, 2013 Quote Quote I guess I've never really thought much about it! I have. It's how I occupy my spare time. Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #58 March 28, 2013 Quote Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums? so was this a trolling post, or were you actually sincere? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #59 March 28, 2013 QuoteQuote Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums? so was this a trolling post, or were you actually sincere? Actually sincere. It's ridiculous to make the comparison of gay marriage and people marrying their daughters or dogs or whatever. It's literally an absurd argument.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,582 #60 March 28, 2013 Quote Quote Quote I guess I've never really thought much about it! I have. It's how I occupy my spare time. Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums? I was about to write a strongly worded challenge but let me check first: Are you saying Lawrocket's concern over consent (say that 10 times fast) is a silly hypothetical or that GravityMaster's whole gay incest topic is a silly hypothetical? 'Cos one of those I agree withDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #61 March 28, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote I guess I've never really thought much about it! I have. It's how I occupy my spare time. Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums? I was about to write a strongly worded challenge but let me check first: Are you saying Lawrocket's concern over consent (say that 10 times fast) is a silly hypothetical or that GravityMaster's whole gay incest topic is a silly hypothetical? 'Cos one of those I agree with Grav's...which Lawrocket said he also spent time thinking about.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,582 #62 March 28, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuote Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums? so was this a trolling post, or were you actually sincere? Actually sincere. It's ridiculous to make the comparison of gay marriage and people marrying their daughters or dogs or whatever. It's literally an absurd argument. Yes, but rather than only saying "that's absurd" it's better to be able to say a) "that's absurd" and b) "this is why it's a completely different issue". It's not going to change the mind of whatever idiot put the argument forward in the first place, but it makes it more obvious to an outsider which side actually thinks about the issue and which side is full of drooling imbeciles making snap emotional judgements.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #63 March 28, 2013 Quote Quote Quote I guess I've never really thought much about it! I have. It's how I occupy my spare time. Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums? Such as, "what to do when quade doesn't read up to why I made the response in the first place?" I didn't bring up the point. Somebody else brought up the issue of consenting adults. I wrote I have no problem with consent. Sorry, but I tend to find things like "consent" and "abuse" to be things I've dealt with in real fucking life. Frankly, it's attitude's like yours that I attacked who find abuse to be some reductio ad absursum thing. Count yourself amonf the lucky fucking people who have nebver seen the consequences of it. No. I was NOT comparing it to gay marriage. Someone else asked a question. I provided a response to thay question. And it seems others saw what I was getting at with it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #64 March 28, 2013 Who says animals don't have feelings to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #65 March 28, 2013 QuoteWho says animals don't have feelings to? Can't approach using consent in a sentence... doesn't get the basic meaning of consent.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #66 March 28, 2013 Quote Quote Who says animals don't have feelings to? Can't approach using consent in a sentence... doesn't get the basic meaning of consent. I was going to go with "informed consent", but you're right. Baby steps... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #67 March 28, 2013 With everyone screwing everyone and with as much porn on the internet the human is become sexually desensitized that they're pushing the envelop. There no question the animal world has its concerns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #68 March 28, 2013 Quote With everyone screwing everyone and with as much porn on the internet the human is become sexually desensitized that they're pushing the envelop. There no question the animal world has its concerns. Everyone's screwing everyone? Dammit, why aren't I getting any action right now!! Study after study has shown that watching porn does in fact desensitise one to porn, and that's about it. It does not lead directly to people "pushing the envelope" out of sexual boredom. Try again.You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #69 March 28, 2013 Quote With everyone screwing everyone and with as much porn on the internet the human is become sexually desensitized that they're pushing the envelop. There no question the animal world has its concerns. Sounds as if you wish people to be more monogamous and have longer deeper relationships and stronger families. Best way to encourage and support this is to open marriage and it's benefits to all couples: regardless of their genders and orientation. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #70 March 28, 2013 Quote Everyone's screwing everyone? Dammit, why aren't I getting any action right now!! Same here; I'm filing a complaint."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #71 March 28, 2013 Quote Quote Everyone's screwing everyone? Dammit, why aren't I getting any action right now!! Same here; I'm filing a complaint. Forget marriage equality, I demand Screwing Equality!! And I'll take it all the way to the SC if I have to!! You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #72 March 28, 2013 Quote Quote With everyone screwing everyone and with as much porn on the internet the human is become sexually desensitized that they're pushing the envelop. There no question the animal world has its concerns. Everyone's screwing everyone? Dammit, why aren't I getting any action right now!! Study after study has shown that watching porn does in fact desensitise one to porn, and that's about it. It does not lead directly to people "pushing the envelope" out of sexual boredom. Try again. You've not tried choking, hanging? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistercwood 287 #73 March 28, 2013 Quote Quote Quote With everyone screwing everyone and with as much porn on the internet the human is become sexually desensitized that they're pushing the envelop. There no question the animal world has its concerns. Everyone's screwing everyone? Dammit, why aren't I getting any action right now!! Study after study has shown that watching porn does in fact desensitise one to porn, and that's about it. It does not lead directly to people "pushing the envelope" out of sexual boredom. Try again. You've not tried choking, hanging? Nope. And I've watched a lot of porn in my time. A lot... You are playing chicken with a planet - you can't dodge and planets don't blink. Act accordingly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #74 March 28, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuote Have you tried doing something more useful than silly hypothetical reductio ad absurdums? so was this a trolling post, or were you actually sincere? Actually sincere. It's ridiculous to make the comparison of gay marriage and people marrying their daughters or dogs or whatever. It's literally an absurd argument. absurd is someone with your posting record suggesting other people get a life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclalor 12 #75 March 28, 2013 QuoteIt's ridiculous to make the comparison of gay marriage and people marrying their daughters or dogs or whatever. It's literally an absurd argument. But when it's all you have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
