Second Amendment has no limits? NOT!!!

[funjumper101 15]

Why is it that I can’t buy a 20mm cannon and explosive rounds for it, as a citizen of the USA?

Why is it that I cannot buy an automatic weapon over the counter from any gun store in the USA?

Why is it that I cannot buy an RPG launcher and the rounds for it?

I am an American Citizen, living in the USA. According to the Reich Wing Conservatives, the Second Amendment to the Constitution prevents the government from infringing on my right to bear arms.

Why is it that I can’t buy these things?

Could it be that the Second Amendment is not absolute?

Could it be that there is a clearly established body of law for regulating what kind of weapons and ammunition can be legally sold in the USA?

These facts take the current political discourse from one of the RWC absolutes (no restrictions of any kind at all, EVER) into the real world. The one where regulation of weapons is already in place, and can be extended as needed. As weapons technology has expanded, the need for regulating the hardware available is part of the responsibility of our elected representatives. A reasonable level of regulation that preserves public safety is what government is supposed to do.

[regulator 0]

You have the right to NOT own weapons.

You also have the right to bend over and take it like a man for the rest of your family when your shit gets invaded [literally].

I wont laugh at you when you house gets invaded, just like you have the right to protest and complain about my inalienable 2nd amendment rights.

And the reason you cant own a .20 mil cannon?

You probably couldnt hit the broad side of a barn with it because it frightens you.

VERY BADLY.

[rushmc 23]

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Why is it that I can’t buy a 20mm cannon and explosive rounds for it, as a citizen of the USA?

Why is it that I cannot buy an automatic weapon over the counter from any gun store in the USA?

Why is it that I cannot buy an RPG launcher and the rounds for it?

I am an American Citizen, living in the USA. According to the Reich Wing Conservatives, the Second Amendment to the Constitution prevents the government from infringing on my right to bear arms.

Why is it that I can’t buy these things?

Could it be that the Second Amendment is not absolute?

Could it be that there is a clearly established body of law for regulating what kind of weapons and ammunition can be legally sold in the USA?

These facts take the current political discourse from one of the RWC absolutes (no restrictions of any kind at all, EVER) into the real world. The one where regulation of weapons is already in place, and can be extended as needed. As weapons technology has expanded, the need for regulating the hardware available is part of the responsibility of our elected representatives. A reasonable level of regulation that preserves public safety is what government is supposed to do.

Cool

Then, to follow your lead, neither is the 1st Amendment

What books do we need to ban?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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You have the right to NOT own weapons.

You also have the right to bend over and take it like a man for the rest of your family when your shit gets invaded [literally].

I wont laugh at you when you house gets invaded, just like you have the right to protest and complain about my inalienable 2nd amendment rights.

And the reason you cant own a .20 mil cannon?

You probably couldnt hit the broad side of a barn with it because it frightens you.

VERY BADLY.

One thing this "poster" is ignoring are some recent supreme court rulings. Rulings that state that guns "in common use" shall not be restricted

Hmmm

How many AR15's are out there?

Enough to say that are common I think

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[BartsDaddy 7]

You might want to research what you are allowed to own here in America. As your examples are allowed. You just have to jump thru a few more hoops to do it.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[billvon 3,107]

>You also have the right to bend over and take it like a man for the rest of your family
>when your shit gets invaded [literally].

And you have the right to buy a gun and watch your son blow his brother's guts all over the wall.

You also have the right to watch a criminal use your own gun to hold your wife at gunpoint while he does . . . . whatever he likes.

[rushmc 23]

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>You also have the right to bend over and take it like a man for the rest of your family
>when your shit gets invaded [literally].

And you have the right to buy a gun and watch your son blow his brother's guts all over the wall.

You also have the right to watch a criminal use your own gun to hold your wife at gunpoint while he does . . . . whatever he likes.

OOOohhhhhhhh

Good argument



NOT

Based on a flawed and debunked report


Gotta admit though, you take a shining to the scaremonger tactics.

Dems taught you well

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[regulator 0]

I'll take my chances.

I dont have a son. I do have a daughter and I would bet she is trained on firearms better than a vast majority of liberals on this forum.

[rushmc 23]

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I'll take my chances.

I dont have a son. I do have a daughter and I would bet she is trained on firearms better than a vast majority of liberals on this forum.

I think better stated is, I will stack the odds in my favor.

As nothing is a givin

One part he did do right however, he called the preson holding the gun to someone's wife, a criminal

Something the libs would have all gun owners be

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[regulator 0]

So if guns actually kill people...then how does anyone make it out of a gunshow alive?

[funjumper101 15]

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You have the right to NOT own weapons.

You also have the right to bend over and take it like a man for the rest of your family when your shit gets invaded [literally].

I wont laugh at you when you house gets invaded, just like you have the right to protest and complain about my inalienable 2nd amendment rights.

And the reason you cant own a .20 mil cannon?

You probably couldnt hit the broad side of a barn with it because it frightens you.

VERY BADLY.

BRILLIANT!!!

A pack of false assumptions wrapped up in an emotional diatribe.

Nicely done.

I actually am a pretty good shot. I have owned guns in the past. At the moment I am considering buying a .22 as I have problems with ground squirrels. I live out in the country, on a five acre ranch. I am having a fair amount of success with traps, so odds are I'll pass on the gun as I don't need it.

I got rid of the guns I used to have as I don't hunt, and I don't have irrational fears about home invasions. At the time, I needed the money, and had pretty much figured out that guns were fun to play with, but not required in the life I lead.

I have no odd fantasies that I, though my incredible masculinity and hypervigilance, along with massive skills in home defense and personal protection, could fight off armed intruders. You, however, do seem to have this odd fantasy.

I highly recommend professional help for this form of mental illness. You wouldn't want to be found to be so mentally screwed up that it isn't safe for you to own guns, would you?

If where you live is so unsafe that you MUST have firearms for personal protection, I advise you to relocate to a more civilzed part of the world. Why would any sane person subject their loved ones to such a place?

[lawrocket 3]

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Could it be that there is a clearly established body of law for regulating what kind of weapons and ammunition can be legally sold in the USA?

Yep.

What you and the rest of your ilk are suggesting is that the body of law be disregarded in order to do more stuff. It's much like there's a body of law that says that free speech is not limited. Therefore, we can ban debate of the President's policies. Or, 4th Amendment rights are not limited, therefore warrantless searches are permissible in most circumstances.

Of course, it's only the Second Amendment that you don't like. Me? I like all of them.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[lawrocket 3]

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If where you live is so unsafe that you MUST have firearms for personal protection, I advise you to relocate to a more civilzed part of the world.

Or he could hang out in schools all day. Guns aren't allowed there, and we all know how well that works.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Andy9o8 2]

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your ilk

[lawrocket 3]

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your ilk

Trust me - there are very, very few of his ilk.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[skiskyrock 0]

you do realize that you can in fact own all of these items? It just requires paperwork and cash. Lots of cash.

[christelsabine 1]

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your ilk

Trust me - there are very, very few of his ilk.

Impartial like usual - Jeez, you would starve to death in our system.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[sfzombie 3]

when taken in context, these items you referred to should be legal to own, as they are, and regulated, as they also are. let me help you get to the context of the founding fathers when they devised the constitution. they had just won their independence from what they saw as a tyrannical foreign government. the term militia as used here actually meant able bodied citizens which were to report with their personal arms, rations, and equipment as needed. of course, at the time, the only arms that the military had which the average citizen did not would have to be cannon.

so, after looking at the context (and granted, this is only my opinion garnered after only 10 years of part-time, non-professional study of the time frame) then allowing citizens to own assault weapons is actually following in a steeped tradition. when militias became regulated under the control of governments, it was state, not federal, governments.

in essence, they were providing citizens the means to overthrow the new government should the need arise. and applying this logic to modern times, we should be allowed to stock up on arms and ammunition of any type that the military would have. and yes, 20mm cannons and rpg's would fall into this category.

http://kitswv.com

[billvon 3,107]

>I'll take my chances.

Sounds good.

> I do have a daughter and I would bet she is trained on firearms better
>than a vast majority of liberals on this forum.

Also cool. I hope she is better trained than these people:
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Pataskala firearms instructor shoots self
Jun 5, 2012

ZANESVILLE -- A seasoned firearms instructor accidentally shot himself in the right leg Sunday during a firearm course at a local shooting range.

According to the Muskingum County Sheriff's Office, Michael D. Craig, 59, owner and instructor at Ohio Shooting Sports, was showing students at Briar Rabbit Shooting Sports on Granger Hill Road how to take a defensive stand and shoot close to a target.
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Firearms training officer accidentally shoots himself
Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 2:08 PM

GREEN, Ohio -- A firearms instructor accidentally shot himself in the thigh during a training session at the Summit County Sheriff's Office training facility Tuesday.

Sheriff's Inspector William Holland said the officer works for the Ohio Peace Officer Training Academy, but declined to identify him.

Holland said at 11:41 a.m., the trainer "inadvertently shot himself in the leg while conducting a training session. The officer unholstered his weapon and discharged a round into his upper thigh."
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LEO Firearms Instructor Accidently Kills Student

BRENDEN SAGER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Recruits in a Cobb County police firearms class were worried about an instructor's teaching methods moments before he shot and killed a member of the class, an investigative report released Friday shows.
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[billvon 3,107]

>So if guns actually kill people . . . .

??? People kill people. Guns just make it very, very easy for people to do so; indeed, they are designed to do so. They can be thought of as amplifiers. They turn a mistake into a dead student, or a malicious thought into 20 dead students.

[lawrocket 3]

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you would starve to death in our system.

Like the Jews did?


Don't ever set me up like that again...

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[christelsabine 1]

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you would starve to death in our system.

Like the Jews did?


Don't ever set me up like that again...

Yawn .... Not your best reply. Shyster.

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[BartsDaddy 7]

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you do realize that you can in fact own all of these items? It just requires paperwork and cash. Lots of cash.

I pointed that out to him earlier in this thread but he chooses to ignore it. Because if he acknowledged it he would have to admit his OP was sensationalised bullshit.

Handguns are only used to fight your way to a good rifle

[OHCHUTE 0]

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Why is it that I can’t buy a 20mm cannon and explosive rounds for it, as a citizen of the USA?

Why is it that I cannot buy an automatic weapon over the counter from any gun store in the USA?

Why is it that I cannot buy an RPG launcher and the rounds for it?

I am an American Citizen, living in the USA. According to the Reich Wing Conservatives, the Second Amendment to the Constitution prevents the government from infringing on my right to bear arms.

Why is it that I can’t buy these things?

Could it be that the Second Amendment is not absolute?

Could it be that there is a clearly established body of law for regulating what kind of weapons and ammunition can be legally sold in the USA?

These facts take the current political discourse from one of the RWC absolutes (no restrictions of any kind at all, EVER) into the real world. The one where regulation of weapons is already in place, and can be extended as needed. As weapons technology has expanded, the need for regulating the hardware available is part of the responsibility of our elected representatives. A reasonable level of regulation that preserves public safety is what government is supposed to do.

For cripes sakes a little kid can't even chew a pop fart into the shape of Idaho without being handed a ticket for some BS.

The second amendment is about protecting ones self and property. Back in the day, every frigging every house had a gun. And for the most part, women killed more men than the men did with shotguns as they were mostly the ones defending the home while the men were out hunting or doing deals with the indians.

The AR 15 is a sporting rifle and a competitive rifle. It's used in competition matches mostly by white men. Now all the gun violence is in the inner city. If you want to stop gun violence then start doing some community policing in the inner city especially around night clubs at 2am in the morning when the clubs let out ....not take white mans sporting rifles.

[Andy9o8 2]

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white mans sporting rifles.

Jesus H. Christ, you just can't restrain yourself, can you?