Dumb ass social conservatives

[christelsabine 1]

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Well considering the fact that a vast majority of those who engage in bestiality are germans I thought YOU could tell ME.

You surely have a better background on that than me.

Anyhow, any proof/links?

Perhaps .... better not. A vast majority of any kind of porns (including bestiality) are made in the USA.

Arrghhh - that's your world, not mine.

Bibi

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[rehmwa 2]

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So you feel people that buttfuck donkeys should have rights?

You seem to have a lot of knowledge about that matter. How many donkey f****rs do you know?

this is a skydiver's site - this topic might overwhelm the thread. you should probably start a new one in Bonfire. they know the most about it

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[christelsabine 1]

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So you feel people that buttfuck donkeys should have rights?

You seem to have a lot of knowledge about that matter. How many donkey f****rs do you know?

this is a skydiver's site - this topic might overwhelm the thread. you should probably start a new one in Bonfire. they know the most about it

I guess you right now found a lot of new friends over there in BF ........

dudeist skydiver # 3105

[billvon 3,112]

>I'm in the 18-45 group and I will step waaaayyy out here. I believe that
>marriage should be defined as one man and one woman.

That's fine. And if your opinion is that you think that marriage should be between a man and a woman but people can do whatever they want, I'd even support that. If your opinion is that marriage rights should be withheld from gays by the government then I would disagree with that.

[promise5 17]

I do in theory support a constitutional amendment that states that marriage should be defined between a man and a woman. But, its ok that we disagree on this

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[jakee 1,594]

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The arguments are already being made by groups for multi partner marriages and child sex

I have had my revelation

Yours is yet to come

What exactly was your revelation, 'cause strangely enough I can still think of loads of great arguments against pedophilia that have nothing to do with whether or not being gay is allowed.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[ManagingPrime 0]

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I do in theory support a constitutional amendment that states that marriage should be defined between a man and a woman. But, its ok that we disagree on this

To what end?

I don't have any issues with queers (intended to be inclusive) and I don't have an issue with people who are repulsed by the thought of any relationship outside of a man-woman.

I do have an issue with infringing upon the rights of others in their pursuit of life, liberty and happiness/property if in their pursuit they do not infringe upon the rights of others.

Would straight marriages somehow be sullied if gays were allowed to be married? How would they be infringing upon the rights of others?

I do take issue with the government encouraging/discouraging certain behaviors using the tax code, but that's not exactly germaine to this discussion.

[rehmwa 2]

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I do take issue with the government encouraging/discouraging certain behaviors using the tax code, but that's not exactly germaine to this discussion.

This is exactly that conversation. Government benefits that tie to the definition.

Outside of government, people can and do pair up any way they want. I don't see why two individuals getting married (hetero or otherwise) is any business of the government at all - to encourage or discourage. it's non of the gov's business

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[promise5 17]

Two people can say they are married in any way shape or form they want, its when they want that union to be recognized with a certificate from the local gov't that it then opens it up to being an issue.

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[billvon 3,112]

>Two people can say they are married in any way shape or form they want, its when
>they want that union to be recognized with a certificate from the local gov't that it then
>opens it up to being an issue.

Agreed. Unfortunately right now there are many things you can't do without that certificate. To me it's like saying "women can do whatever they want as long as they don't want the government to recognize their right to vote."

If we change the laws of the land so you don't need to be married to (for example) speak for your spouse in medical and legal matters, get survivor benefits etc then great, that problem goes away. Until then, you're going to have gay men and women who want the same rights you have - and demand them very strongly.

[promise5 17]

and they have that right and I also have the right to oppose that.This is where I really am going to step into and yes open another can of junk. Being a female or male isn't a choice, so its not the same.

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[ManagingPrime 0]

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I do take issue with the government encouraging/discouraging certain behaviors using the tax code, but that's not exactly germaine to this discussion.

This is exactly that conversation. Government benefits that tie to the definition.

Outside of government, people can and do pair up any way they want. I don't see why two individuals getting married (hetero or otherwise) is any business of the government at all - to encourage or discourage. it's non of the gov's business

Get rid of those benefits (financial only)...problem solved?

[ryoder 1,590]

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So you feel people that buttfuck donkeys should have rights?

You seem to have a lot of knowledge about that matter. How many donkey f****rs do you know?

This seems like the ideal time for this clip: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-16-2012/back-in-black---lance-armstrong--butt-chugging---farm-animal-sex

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[jakee 1,594]

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its when they want that union to be recognized with a certificate from the local gov't that it then opens it up to being an issue.

Why? What's your problem with it?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[promise5 17]

Simply put, I disagree with it.

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[ManagingPrime 0]

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Simply put, I disagree with it.

I like chocolate ice cream. Sometimes I like vanilla bean. I can't stand frozen yogurt...it should be illegal..at the very least it should not be recognized as a tasty frozen treat.

[Opie 0]

I don't like frozen yogurt either, it should be illegal for others to have it. Simply put.

[NWFlyer 2]

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I don't like frozen yogurt either, it should be illegal for others to have it. Simply put.

The mere existence of frozen yogurt is a threat to the sanctity of ice cream, I agree.

"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

[wmw999 2,587]

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Being a female or male isn't a choice, so its not the same.

Neither is who one is attracted to, especially when one has a fairly high sex drive.

It's easy to be celibate, or even consort with someone who isn't inherently attractive, if you don't have much of a drive.

If it's super high, well, then you might find that hole in the fence attractive enough . But it's part of the wiring. Just as gender is.

And as far as gender, what gender do you think hermaphrodites are? Is it something that's chosen based on what you look like, or is there hormonal & mental wiring involved?

I have both a friend and a relative who are transgender. Coming out to friends and relatives, and saying that you are really a woman is not easy. Remember that calling a man a "girl" is often a huge insult

I have no issue with any church deciding who it can't an cannot marry. I have no issue with the government saying that churches can't perform legal marriages any more, that there has to be a civil ceremony as well. I have no issue with consenting adults entering into a pact that's designed to set up a family unit.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[promise5 17]

You are completely right there!! Another conspiracy, trying to pass off frozen yogurt as ice cream!!! ugh those liberals are behind it
oops I forgot
simply put

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[Andy9o8 2]

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and they have that right and I also have the right to oppose that.This is where I really am going to step into and yes open another can of junk. Being a female or male isn't a choice, so its not the same.

Wendy used lots of big words, so let me simplify it.

Having a gay-oriented brain or a straight-oriented brain isn't a choice, either. Despite whatever you may have been taught by family and church while growing up, a person is born either straight or gay, just as they're born with their gender.

Telling a gay woman to never have sex in her life unless it's with a man is the same as telling you to never have sex in your life unless it's with a woman.

[promise5 17]

believe me i do understand "big" words, really I do
Please know I'm joking

No matter how slowly you say oranges it never sounds like gullible.
Believe me I tried.

[ManagingPrime 0]

I have no issue with consenting adults entering into a pact that's designed to set up a family unit.

Wendy P.

Along with finances this is another point of contention. I noticed your leanings towards "nature" in the common "nature vs. Nurture" arguement.

The finances are tough enough to deal with. I think you would have to disenfranchise future generations from entitlements currently received by many as a benefit of being married. To me this seems necessary to ensure equality going forward.

When addressing children it becomes more difficult if nurture is not removed from the equation.

Would the children of homosexual childen have a higher likelihood of "becoming" homosexual themselves? If so, does that have a net positive or negative effect on society after many generations? It seems that the data is just not there yet... I could be wrong.

Couples of all sexual persuasions are already adopting, so that horse is already out of the barn. It's too bad, because that debate is more nuanced than the marriage debate that tends to just bring peoples prejudices to the surface..."institution" and what not.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Would the children of homosexual childen have a higher likelihood of "becoming" homosexual themselves?

Again: no. Sexuality is biologically predetermined in the brain at birth.

Although I do believe there are certain species of lizard that can alter gender. Fascinating subject, but not relevant here.

[yourmomma 0]

Your absoultly right. Once we started letting our white women fuck the niggers we knew the donkey fuckers and faggots were right behind. That being said, it really started to go south when we let the bitches start voting. Some people will never learn.