rushmc 23 #1 March 13, 2013 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-12/california-seizes-guns-as-owners-lose-right-to-bear-arms.html?cmpid=yhoo The linked article is about gun being taken from homes in CA. Now that in itself has a thread. But I post this for a particular part of the artice. Read a bit and find where these cops are going to houses without warrents and have to be let in (in other words, the home owners are giving up their rights) for the cops to take their guns This does not have to happen Educate yourself http://www.flexyourrights.org/ I have purchased a dozen of each of the videos that are offered by this group. I will be purchasing the one they are working on that addresses the rights of those on a jury You dont have to let them in You dont have to let them in your car As they tell you, even if you think you have nothing to hide, you do not have to give up your rights and you have only to loose to let them do so without a warrent Flex your rights people If we dont use them we loose them"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie 3 #2 March 13, 2013 i saw a link that showed some guys not giving up their rights at "border" inspections far from borders. it was really cool. http://boingboing.net/2013/03/06/politely-refusing-to-talk-to-d.htmlhttp://kitswv.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 March 13, 2013 Quotei saw a link that showed some guys not giving up their rights at "border" inspections far from borders. it was really cool. http://boingboing.net/2013/03/06/politely-refusing-to-talk-to-d.html I have seen that one too It is good stuff There are many of them on youtube"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #4 March 13, 2013 Quotei saw a link that showed some guys not giving up their rights at "border" inspections far from borders. it was really cool. http://boingboing.net/2013/03/06/politely-refusing-to-talk-to-d.html I was led to this train of thought by another thread here and ended up spending an evening on youtube watching people stand up to border patrol officers at checkpoints, all being checkpoints near my home, some of which I've been through myself. The only concern I have with it is the issue of "probable cause." All you need is one officer who has had a bad day, is sick of people jerking him around while he's just trying to move traffic. He decides he's had enough, and that he's going to teach YOU a lesson. "Oh, gee, you know what? The drug dog just "hit" on your car." Then, if he really wants to ruin you and manages to drop/"find" something he brought with him to the now-"legal" search... your life is ruined (mine would be, anyhow) when you originally had done nothing wrong other than try to exercise your rights. I know we have a lot of good LEOs on here like AD. I know the bad guys are not the majority. I know that regardless of whether or not the searches are Constitutional, that the majority of the officers involved just want to do their part and help us be safe. Unfortunately crooked officers, though rare, are a big wildcard in this game... Elvisio "nervous in the service" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 March 13, 2013 QuoteQuotei saw a link that showed some guys not giving up their rights at "border" inspections far from borders. it was really cool. http://boingboing.net/2013/03/06/politely-refusing-to-talk-to-d.html I was led to this train of thought by another thread here and ended up spending an evening on youtube watching people stand up to border patrol officers at checkpoints, all being checkpoints near my home, some of which I've been through myself. The only concern I have with it is the issue of "probable cause." All you need is one officer who has had a bad day, is sick of people jerking him around while he's just trying to move traffic. He decides he's had enough, and that he's going to teach YOU a lesson. "Oh, gee, you know what? The drug dog just "hit" on your car." Then, if he really wants to ruin you and manages to drop/"find" something he brought with him to the now-"legal" search... your life is ruined (mine would be, anyhow) when you originally had done nothing wrong other than try to exercise your rights. I know we have a lot of good LEOs on here like AD. I know the bad guys are not the majority. I know that regardless of whether or not the searches are Constitutional, that the majority of the officers involved just want to do their part and help us be safe. Unfortunately crooked officers, though rare, are a big wildcard in this game... Elvisio "nervous in the service" Rodriguez This is why I alway have a recording device going when I am stopped"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #6 March 13, 2013 Dashcam? If that is true you and a million other russians cant be wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 March 13, 2013 QuoteDashcam? If that is true you and a million other russians cant be wrong. Nope Looks like a remote door opener does 4 hours of color video and audio"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #8 March 13, 2013 I'm I under arrest. Am I being detained? May I proceed. May I go back into my house. I need to contact my lawyer. Is this the United State of Amerrica where I have certain rights pertaining to illegal searches. This is private property. I must ask you to leave. I need to contact my lawyer. I cannot answer any of your questions. Have a great day! See you later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #9 March 13, 2013 The two scariest Feds: 1) (After 'I invoke the fifth') "Why? because you have something to hide?" 2) "Refusing to answer the question is my probable cause." The awesomest driver: "Are you a US citizen? Do you have any ID? Where have you been today?" Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #10 March 13, 2013 QuoteThis is why I alway have a recording device going when I am stopped How often are you stopped?! CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 March 13, 2013 Once And they ripped my car apart and sent me on my way. I agreed to the search Never again"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites