weekender 0 #101 March 11, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteJust like the plumber and the cleaner, you may *facilitate* but you don't create. now it's really getting thin - who then creates wealth, give me your three top careers. I'd like to understand your definition. I'll take three guesses 1 - I guess the miner that actually takes precious metals and stones from the earth....(by your logic, I assume he didn't create it either, he just took it from the government put it in play, but it was always there..) 2 - the sun (fusion certainly counts) 3 - Internet porn site - you seem intrigued there Sorry to burst your bubble but Apollo doesn't REALLY drive the sun across the sky every day. I'd define wealth as materials (in a broad sense, to include food), energy and knowledge. So I agree with miners, farmers, fishermen, hunters, those who turn raw materials into products (manufacturers, oil refiners...), inventors, designers, engineers, research scientists (non inclusive list). Those who don't create wealth aren't necessarily as useless as telephone sanitizers and marketing execs. Plumbers, car mechanics, dry cleaners and even bankers certainly provide important services. Even porn sites provide a service to people who can't get a real girlfriend. your definition is very different than mine. anyone who can increase revenues is generating wealth IMO. start a plumbing service and expand it to two operations, to me is wealth creation. take 50million of your friends money and turn it into 75mill, that is wealth creation. you disagree but fortunately many see things as i do. Which is good for me because my compensation is based solely on my revenues generated. I'm glad you are not on the bonus committee. You seem to have created your own definition of wealth creation for the sole purpose of denying credit to people you personally dislike."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #102 March 11, 2013 According to some: wealth is a state of mind. I'm wealthy. I'm sitting on the porch drinking ice tea and I'm dreaming about being in Bali. Yes you could be wealthy owning property that has a ton of gold in the dirt, but if you don't have the the means to mine it, or no one else wants to mine it, the gold itself is worthless. The property could have value, considering again if someone wanted the gold. Now gold in your pock has real value, where the gold in the dirt has potential value or intrinsic value should gold be considered an idea and not a tangible metal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #103 March 11, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteJust like the plumber and the cleaner, you may *facilitate* but you don't create. now it's really getting thin - who then creates wealth, give me your three top careers. I'd like to understand your definition. I'll take three guesses 1 - I guess the miner that actually takes precious metals and stones from the earth....(by your logic, I assume he didn't create it either, he just took it from the government put it in play, but it was always there..) 2 - the sun (fusion certainly counts) 3 - Internet porn site - you seem intrigued there Sorry to burst your bubble but Apollo doesn't REALLY drive the sun across the sky every day. I'd define wealth as materials (in a broad sense, to include food), energy and knowledge. So I agree with miners, farmers, fishermen, hunters, those who turn raw materials into products (manufacturers, oil refiners...), inventors, designers, engineers, research scientists (non inclusive list). Those who don't create wealth aren't necessarily as useless as telephone sanitizers and marketing execs. Plumbers, car mechanics, dry cleaners and even bankers certainly provide important services. Even porn sites provide a service to people who can't get a real girlfriend. your definition is very different than mine. anyone who can increase revenues is generating wealth IMO. start a plumbing service and expand it to two operations, to me is wealth creation. take 50million of your friends money and turn it into 75mill, that is wealth creation. you disagree but fortunately many see things as i do. Which is good for me because my compensation is based solely on my revenues generated. I'm glad you are not on the bonus committee. You seem to have created your own definition of wealth creation for the sole purpose of denying credit to people you personally dislike. I dispute that revenues = wealth. If we all took in each other's laundry we'd create revenues, but we wouldn't be creating wealth.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #104 March 11, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteJust like the plumber and the cleaner, you may *facilitate* but you don't create. now it's really getting thin - who then creates wealth, give me your three top careers. I'd like to understand your definition. I'll take three guesses 1 - I guess the miner that actually takes precious metals and stones from the earth....(by your logic, I assume he didn't create it either, he just took it from the government put it in play, but it was always there..) 2 - the sun (fusion certainly counts) 3 - Internet porn site - you seem intrigued there Sorry to burst your bubble but Apollo doesn't REALLY drive the sun across the sky every day. I'd define wealth as materials (in a broad sense, to include food), energy and knowledge. So I agree with miners, farmers, fishermen, hunters, those who turn raw materials into products (manufacturers, oil refiners...), inventors, designers, engineers, research scientists (non inclusive list). Those who don't create wealth aren't necessarily as useless as telephone sanitizers and marketing execs. Plumbers, car mechanics, dry cleaners and even bankers certainly provide important services. Even porn sites provide a service to people who can't get a real girlfriend. your definition is very different than mine. anyone who can increase revenues is generating wealth IMO. start a plumbing service and expand it to two operations, to me is wealth creation. take 50million of your friends money and turn it into 75mill, that is wealth creation. you disagree but fortunately many see things as i do. Which is good for me because my compensation is based solely on my revenues generated. I'm glad you are not on the bonus committee. You seem to have created your own definition of wealth creation for the sole purpose of denying credit to people you personally dislike. I dispute that revenues = wealth. If we all took in each other's laundry we'd create revenues, but we wouldn't be creating wealth. using your example i would agree with you, however, that is not what i described nor what banks do. In your imagination they do. this is based on your dislike of banking. you created your own definition of wealth based on this dislike. there was no need for you to create examples to prove your definition. i understand your thinking."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #105 March 12, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteJust like the plumber and the cleaner, you may *facilitate* but you don't create. now it's really getting thin - who then creates wealth, give me your three top careers. I'd like to understand your definition. I'll take three guesses 1 - I guess the miner that actually takes precious metals and stones from the earth....(by your logic, I assume he didn't create it either, he just took it from the government put it in play, but it was always there..) 2 - the sun (fusion certainly counts) 3 - Internet porn site - you seem intrigued there Sorry to burst your bubble but Apollo doesn't REALLY drive the sun across the sky every day. I'd define wealth as materials (in a broad sense, to include food), energy and knowledge. So I agree with miners, farmers, fishermen, hunters, those who turn raw materials into products (manufacturers, oil refiners...), inventors, designers, engineers, research scientists (non inclusive list). Those who don't create wealth aren't necessarily as useless as telephone sanitizers and marketing execs. Plumbers, car mechanics, dry cleaners and even bankers certainly provide important services. Even porn sites provide a service to people who can't get a real girlfriend. your definition is very different than mine. anyone who can increase revenues is generating wealth IMO. start a plumbing service and expand it to two operations, to me is wealth creation. take 50million of your friends money and turn it into 75mill, that is wealth creation. you disagree but fortunately many see things as i do. Which is good for me because my compensation is based solely on my revenues generated. I'm glad you are not on the bonus committee. You seem to have created your own definition of wealth creation for the sole purpose of denying credit to people you personally dislike. I dispute that revenues = wealth. If we all took in each other's laundry we'd create revenues, but we wouldn't be creating wealth. using your example i would agree with you, however, that is not what i described nor what banks do. In your imagination they do. this is based on your dislike of banking. you created your own definition of wealth based on this dislike. there was no need for you to create examples to prove your definition. i understand your thinking. Fundamental flaw in your argument is that I don't dislike banking. I strongly dislike bankers who rape the economy and walk away with huge bonuses. And revenues STILL don't equal wealth. Bankers do not create wealth, they move other people's wealth around and skim off the top.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #106 March 12, 2013 there is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #107 March 12, 2013 Quotethere is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position. And still revenue <> wealth. The mafia has revenues but it doesn't create wealth.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #108 March 12, 2013 QuoteQuotethere is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position. And still revenue <> wealth. The mafia has revenues but it doesn't create wealth. honest question given a real world scenario. i am not trying to win and argument but am curious to your thinking. feel free to not answer but please do not change the scenario to fit your opinion. i am a market maker in a stock. i negotiate a price and purchase stock from an institution. the position can go against me but in this case rises and i sell it for a profit later in the day. my firm pays me a percentage of that profit at the end of the month. i spend that money to buy a house, car and other items to live. IMO i created personal wealth. i also created revenues for the firm to expand and hire more people who do the same. they also purchase houses, cars and other items, spreading the wealth to others outside our firm. this creation did not detract from anyone else's earnings, nor did i take them from anyone else's assets. that is my opinion. In your opinion, am i just skimming or creating wealth? I am not trying to win an argument but truly curious your opinion on creation of wealth. i hope you can answer, knowing my example is of my job, without any insults."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #109 March 12, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuotethere is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position. And still revenue <> wealth. The mafia has revenues but it doesn't create wealth. honest question given a real world scenario. i am not trying to win and argument but am curious to your thinking. feel free to not answer but please do not change the scenario to fit your opinion. i am a market maker in a stock. i negotiate a price and purchase stock from an institution. the position can go against me but in this case rises and i sell it for a profit later in the day. my firm pays me a percentage of that profit at the end of the month. i spend that money to buy a house, car and other items to live. IMO i created personal wealth. i also created revenues for the firm to expand and hire more people who do the same. they also purchase houses, cars and other items, spreading the wealth to others outside our firm. this creation did not detract from anyone else's earnings, nor did i take them from anyone else's assets. that is my opinion. In your opinion, am i just skimming or creating wealth? I am not trying to win an argument but truly curious your opinion on creation of wealth. i hope you can answer, knowing my example is of my job, without any insults. I have some old gold coins. They are worth more now than they were worth 25 years ago. Did I create wealth in any way by keeping them in a drawer? No, I did not. And neither did you in your example.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #110 March 12, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotethere is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position. And still revenue <> wealth. The mafia has revenues but it doesn't create wealth. honest question given a real world scenario. i am not trying to win and argument but am curious to your thinking. feel free to not answer but please do not change the scenario to fit your opinion. i am a market maker in a stock. i negotiate a price and purchase stock from an institution. the position can go against me but in this case rises and i sell it for a profit later in the day. my firm pays me a percentage of that profit at the end of the month. i spend that money to buy a house, car and other items to live. IMO i created personal wealth. i also created revenues for the firm to expand and hire more people who do the same. they also purchase houses, cars and other items, spreading the wealth to others outside our firm. this creation did not detract from anyone else's earnings, nor did i take them from anyone else's assets. that is my opinion. In your opinion, am i just skimming or creating wealth? I am not trying to win an argument but truly curious your opinion on creation of wealth. i hope you can answer, knowing my example is of my job, without any insults. I have some old gold coins. They are worth more now than they were worth 25 years ago. Did I create wealth in any way by keeping them in a drawer? No, I did not. And neither did you in your example. At first i assumed you changed my scenario to meet your bias. With more thought i honestly think you believe they are the same and that no wealth was created. Thank you for your answer. i find your thinking oddly fascinating. you have a very narrow definition of wealth. with this clarity i find you more of a strange man than an angry man, which i have called you in the past. i apologize for that. i think i might take less offense to you going forward."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #111 March 12, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotethere is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position. And still revenue <> wealth. The mafia has revenues but it doesn't create wealth. honest question given a real world scenario. i am not trying to win and argument but am curious to your thinking. feel free to not answer but please do not change the scenario to fit your opinion. i am a market maker in a stock. i negotiate a price and purchase stock from an institution. the position can go against me but in this case rises and i sell it for a profit later in the day. my firm pays me a percentage of that profit at the end of the month. i spend that money to buy a house, car and other items to live. IMO i created personal wealth. i also created revenues for the firm to expand and hire more people who do the same. they also purchase houses, cars and other items, spreading the wealth to others outside our firm. this creation did not detract from anyone else's earnings, nor did i take them from anyone else's assets. that is my opinion. In your opinion, am i just skimming or creating wealth? I am not trying to win an argument but truly curious your opinion on creation of wealth. i hope you can answer, knowing my example is of my job, without any insults. I have some old gold coins. They are worth more now than they were worth 25 years ago. Did I create wealth in any way by keeping them in a drawer? No, I did not. And neither did you in your example. At first i assumed you changed my scenario to meet your bias. With more thought i honestly think you believe they are the same and that no wealth was created. Thank you for your answer. i find your thinking oddly fascinating. you have a very narrow definition of wealth. with this clarity i find you more of a strange man than an angry man, which i have called you in the past. i apologize for that. i think i might take less offense to you going forward. Well, by your definition I have created wealth by storing some old gold coins, because I can sell them at a profit, creating revenue for myself, and buy a house, car and other items to live. I, however, don't consider that an act of CREATION so much as an act of manipulation.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #112 March 12, 2013 QuoteWell, by your definition I have created wealth by storing some old gold coins, because I can sell them at a profit, creating revenue for myself, and buy a house, car and other items to live. I, however, don't consider that an act of CREATION so much as an act of manipulation. so sell the coins buy a shovel take a course on geology move to the mountains build a shack start digging keep digging collect ore refine ore sort out the gold sell the gold to circuit board manufacturers can you draw the line from where you crossed from manipulating to creating wealth? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,076 #113 March 12, 2013 >Well, by your definition I have created wealth by storing some old gold coins, because >I can sell them at a profit, creating revenue for myself, and buy a house, car and >other items to live. Heck, you can create wealth by standing in a lecture hall all day talking to some kids who would rather be somewhere else! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #114 March 12, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotethere is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position. And still revenue <> wealth. The mafia has revenues but it doesn't create wealth. honest question given a real world scenario. i am not trying to win and argument but am curious to your thinking. feel free to not answer but please do not change the scenario to fit your opinion. i am a market maker in a stock. i negotiate a price and purchase stock from an institution. the position can go against me but in this case rises and i sell it for a profit later in the day. my firm pays me a percentage of that profit at the end of the month. i spend that money to buy a house, car and other items to live. IMO i created personal wealth. i also created revenues for the firm to expand and hire more people who do the same. they also purchase houses, cars and other items, spreading the wealth to others outside our firm. this creation did not detract from anyone else's earnings, nor did i take them from anyone else's assets. that is my opinion. In your opinion, am i just skimming or creating wealth? I am not trying to win an argument but truly curious your opinion on creation of wealth. i hope you can answer, knowing my example is of my job, without any insults. I have some old gold coins. They are worth more now than they were worth 25 years ago. Did I create wealth in any way by keeping them in a drawer? No, I did not. And neither did you in your example. At first i assumed you changed my scenario to meet your bias. With more thought i honestly think you believe they are the same and that no wealth was created. Thank you for your answer. i find your thinking oddly fascinating. you have a very narrow definition of wealth. with this clarity i find you more of a strange man than an angry man, which i have called you in the past. i apologize for that. i think i might take less offense to you going forward. Well, by your definition I have created wealth by storing some old gold coins, because I can sell them at a profit, creating revenue for myself, and buy a house, car and other items to live. I, however, don't consider that an act of CREATION so much as an act of manipulation. well sort of, but not really. you would need to replace the coins, a tangible and commodity with an equity security. which is the example i gave and you chose to ignore. then you would need to purchase the equity security, assuming risk, then sell it at a higher price realizing a profit. i would agree in your scenario you have increased your wealth but not created it. i have no idea what you mean by manipulate since its a simple purchase and sale. i in no way affected the price of the security. the market forces did that. i assume you could not help yourself and are trying to insult me by implying my work is manipulation thus attaching a negative connotation to it. thought we put that behind us, i suppose not. anyway, i think we both need to agree that our definition of wealth creation is different and walk away. i can do that without any further insults and hope you can. have a good evening."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,544 #115 March 13, 2013 Quote way too much Quote i in no way affected the price of the security. the market forces did that. I completely understand the provision of services (i.e. putting buyers and sellers in tough) as a valid way to acquire wealth, and agree that it's valid to make a profit if the goods acquire more worth on the way. I do think that the provision of the service is more akin to wealth creation than the acquisition of profit because of its appreciation. However, for all the same reasons that I think advertising has limited value in the greater scheme of humanity, the creation of markets for sophisticated financial instruments, that can then be manipulated around "the little people," is also rather detrimental. Before objecting to "the little people" comment, consider skydivers' reactions to whuffos' evaluations, scientists to non-scientists, etc. Then consider that money is the common vehicle for value trading for the non-participants in the financial markets, so the impact is more direct. I've probably been too blunt (believe it or not, I've been accused of that in the past ), but it's the best I can come up with right now. But just as most skydivers trust most of the whuffos that they know, I have a feeling that this "analysis" I've put forward only applies to anonymous financial folks, and not ones I can actually put a name or identity to. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #116 March 13, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuotethere is no flaw to my argument because im not arguing with you. there is no point to it. you completely ignore any point i make because your definition of wealth and creation is a deep held personal belief. a religious like one based on your personal dislikes of certain people and industries. i get it. you dont need to try to convince or insult me. i truly understand your position. And still revenue <> wealth. The mafia has revenues but it doesn't create wealth. honest question given a real world scenario. i am not trying to win and argument but am curious to your thinking. feel free to not answer but please do not change the scenario to fit your opinion. i am a market maker in a stock. i negotiate a price and purchase stock from an institution. the position can go against me but in this case rises and i sell it for a profit later in the day. my firm pays me a percentage of that profit at the end of the month. i spend that money to buy a house, car and other items to live. IMO i created personal wealth. i also created revenues for the firm to expand and hire more people who do the same. they also purchase houses, cars and other items, spreading the wealth to others outside our firm. this creation did not detract from anyone else's earnings, nor did i take them from anyone else's assets. that is my opinion. In your opinion, am i just skimming or creating wealth? I am not trying to win an argument but truly curious your opinion on creation of wealth. i hope you can answer, knowing my example is of my job, without any insults. I have some old gold coins. They are worth more now than they were worth 25 years ago. Did I create wealth in any way by keeping them in a drawer? No, I did not. And neither did you in your example. At first i assumed you changed my scenario to meet your bias. With more thought i honestly think you believe they are the same and that no wealth was created. Thank you for your answer. i find your thinking oddly fascinating. you have a very narrow definition of wealth. with this clarity i find you more of a strange man than an angry man, which i have called you in the past. i apologize for that. i think i might take less offense to you going forward. Well, by your definition I have created wealth by storing some old gold coins, because I can sell them at a profit, creating revenue for myself, and buy a house, car and other items to live. I, however, don't consider that an act of CREATION so much as an act of manipulation. well sort of, but not really. you would need to replace the coins, a tangible and commodity with an equity security. which is the example i gave and you chose to ignore. then you would need to purchase the equity security, assuming risk, then sell it at a higher price realizing a profit. i would agree in your scenario you have increased your wealth but not created it. i have no idea what you mean by manipulate since its a simple purchase and sale. i in no way affected the price of the security. the market forces did that. i assume you could not help yourself and are trying to insult me by implying my work is manipulation thus attaching a negative connotation to it. thought we put that behind us, i suppose not. anyway, i think we both need to agree that our definition of wealth creation is different and walk away. i can do that without any further insults and hope you can. have a good evening. Do you have pinky fingers? It's easy. When you start a sentence, simply hit the SHIFT KEY to capitalize the start to every sentence. You're doing a good job reaching down there to type a period, now just put a tad more effort into your typing to CAPITALIZE the first word to your sentences as your copy looks like dog crap. So much so that since you're making so hard to read.... why bother reading the crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #117 March 13, 2013 Quote Do you have pinky fingers? It's easy. When you start a sentence, simply hit the SHIFT KEY to capitalize the start to every sentence. You're doing a good job reaching down there to type a period, now just put a tad more effort into your typing to CAPITALIZE the first word to your sentences as your copy looks like dog crap. So much so that since you're making so hard to read.... why bother reading the crap. Oh wow - coming from you that's pretty rich. POVERITY?Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weekender 0 #118 March 13, 2013 Quote Quote way too much Quote i in no way affected the price of the security. the market forces did that. I completely understand the provision of services (i.e. putting buyers and sellers in tough) as a valid way to acquire wealth, and agree that it's valid to make a profit if the goods acquire more worth on the way. I do think that the provision of the service is more akin to wealth creation than the acquisition of profit because of its appreciation. However, for all the same reasons that I think advertising has limited value in the greater scheme of humanity, the creation of markets for sophisticated financial instruments, that can then be manipulated around "the little people," is also rather detrimental. Before objecting to "the little people" comment, consider skydivers' reactions to whuffos' evaluations, scientists to non-scientists, etc. Then consider that money is the common vehicle for value trading for the non-participants in the financial markets, so the impact is more direct. I've probably been too blunt (believe it or not, I've been accused of that in the past ), but it's the best I can come up with right now. But just as most skydivers trust most of the whuffos that they know, I have a feeling that this "analysis" I've put forward only applies to anonymous financial folks, and not ones I can actually put a name or identity to. Wendy P. i dont think you are blunt but discussing a different topic. your comments are valid but on a much larger topic than i was addressing.My example was a very specific and simple one for the exact purpose of not confusing lay people. Everyone can understand buying something at risk and selling it higher, or lower. For the record, my example was not a natural trade, one where a buyer and seller is matched, as you implied. Mine was a prop trade where i purchased an equity at my own risk. I did this again on purpose to avoid including any other parties to the trade. In short i respect your concern about derivatives but its a larger topic i am not interested in discussing. I feel its to difficult to discuss on a forum because of the scope of the business and complexity of derivatives."The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird." John Frusciante Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #119 March 13, 2013 Quote>Well, by your definition I have created wealth by storing some old gold coins, because >I can sell them at a profit, creating revenue for myself, and buy a house, car and >other items to live. Heck, you can create wealth by standing in a lecture hall all day talking to some kids who would rather be somewhere else! I transfer knowledge doing that. I do not create knowledge. I create knowledge when in my research lab.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #120 March 13, 2013 QuoteI create knowledge when in my research lab. sometimes the rest of the times it's odd smells, weird noises, and laser burns on the walls ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southern_Man 0 #121 March 13, 2013 QuoteQuoteI create knowledge when in my research lab. sometimes the rest of the times it's odd smells, weird noises, and laser burns on the walls That sounds like what happens on the jump plane..."What if there were no hypothetical questions?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #122 March 13, 2013 Quote Quote Do you have pinky fingers? It's easy. When you start a sentence, simply hit the SHIFT KEY to capitalize the start to every sentence. You're doing a good job reaching down there to type a period, now just put a tad more effort into your typing to CAPITALIZE the first word to your sentences as your copy looks like dog crap. So much so that since you're making so hard to read.... why bother reading the crap. Oh wow - coming from you that's pretty rich. POVERITY? At least the "I" is capitalized! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #123 March 13, 2013 QuoteQuoteI create knowledge when in my research lab. sometimes the rest of the times it's odd smells, weird noises, and laser burns on the walls None of the above in my lab, unless the students ate Mexican last night.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #124 March 13, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteI create knowledge when in my research lab. sometimes the rest of the times it's odd smells, weird noises, and laser burns on the walls None of the above in my lab, unless the students ate Mexican last night. what's the point of being a physicist if you don't get to play with lasers? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #125 March 13, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteI create knowledge when in my research lab. sometimes the rest of the times it's odd smells, weird noises, and laser burns on the walls None of the above in my lab, unless the students ate Mexican last night. How many of your students like to eat mexicans? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
