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jgoose71 0
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Which one kills more people again?
Irrelevant
I'm trying to figure out if your post is honest or facetious.
If your are trying to ban one and setting free people for having the other, I think asking yourself "which one kills more people" is very relevant.
People say "there is only one thing an assault weapon is good for."
But what is the purpose of having an unregistered hand gun with filed off serial numbers good for? And why is Obama pardoning him?
P.S. AR's are very good for hunting deer, and with the Beowulf .50 cal upper, they are the preferred weapon for hunting pigs for a lot of people I know...
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rushmc 23
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Which one kills more people again?
Irrelevant
I'm trying to figure out if your post is honest or facetious.
If your are trying to ban one and setting free people for having the other, I think asking yourself "which one kills more people" is very relevant.
People say "there is only one thing an assault weapon is good for."
But what is the purpose of having an unregistered hand gun with filed off serial numbers good for? And why is Obama pardoning him?
P.S. AR's are very good for hunting deer, and with the Beowulf .50 cal upper, they are the preferred weapon for hunting pigs for a lot of people I know...
I was talking about most of it
I feel that the SN should be irrelevant. The only thing it should be used for is a manufactures warrentee. The only reason it is an issue here is becuase of registration? (which I am fully against)
It is irrelevant because what gun does not matter. As US citizens we have a right to most guns.
It is irrelevant because murders with guns is dropping and many people are killed in far greater numbers than those killed or murdered with guns
As for Obamas reasons? I am very sure I dont want to know
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To be fair, I was having a bit of trouble figuring out exactly what your post meant and I am still puzzeled a bit by it.
And yes, AR's are simply a modular rifle that is easy to customize. It is simple, reliable and fun to build and shoot
I like one in a 6.5 Grendel myself
Plan to try the pig hunting with it soon (I hope)
So, I was being honest for the most part.
Help me understand what your other post I replied to meant
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
billvon 3,132
> And why is Obama pardoning him?
Because it's part of his job. And clearly he doesn't hate guns as much as right wingers think.
Because it's part of his job. And clearly he doesn't hate guns as much as right wingers think.
rushmc 23
Quote> Obama pardons man convicted of gun crimes
So much for the "Obama hates guns" meme.
Hates guns?
No, he just hates people besides the gov and his buddies having guns
THIS says much more about him and his agenda
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
billvon 3,132
>No, he just hates people besides the gov and his buddies having guns
Apparently not, per this pardon.
Apparently not, per this pardon.
rushmc 23
Quote>No, he just hates people besides the gov and his buddies having guns
Apparently not, per this pardon.
Well, that is why I posted up thread that I really dont want to know why he pardoned him
I need to keep my blood pressure down after all
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Stumpy 284
So wait - if he does something you don't agree with, that's bad.
And if he does something you DO agree with, thats also bad?
Hmmm. I'm guessing you have a bias 
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rushmc 23
QuoteSo wait - if he does something you don't agree with, that's bad.
And if he does something you DO agree with, thats also bad?
Hmmm. I'm guessing you have a bias
I have not agreed or disagreed with the pardon
I dont know the details
I was simply talking about guns and serial numbers
I did indicate I did not want to know. And that is based on everthing else he has done or is doing
He has reasons for everything
I just am not sure I would want to know what that reasoning is
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
kallend 2,182
QuoteQuoteSo wait - if he does something you don't agree with, that's bad.
And if he does something you DO agree with, thats also bad?
Hmmm. I'm guessing you have a bias
I have not agreed or disagreed with the pardon
I dont know the details
Neither, it seems does anyone else but it hasn't prevented them from ODS driven criticism.
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rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteQuoteSo wait - if he does something you don't agree with, that's bad.
And if he does something you DO agree with, thats also bad?
Hmmm. I'm guessing you have a bias
I have not agreed or disagreed with the pardon
I dont know the details
I was simply talking about guns and serial numbers
I did indicate I did not want to know. And that is based on everthing else he has done or is doing
He has reasons for everything
I just am not sure I would want to know what that reasoning is![[:/]](//www.dropzone.com/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png "[:/]")
You could always stick your fingers in your ears and go "La la la la..." like you do with anything else that contradicts your world view.
Now you have reading and comprehension problems?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
kallend 2,182
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSo wait - if he does something you don't agree with, that's bad.
And if he does something you DO agree with, thats also bad?
Hmmm. I'm guessing you have a bias
I have not agreed or disagreed with the pardon
I dont know the details
I was simply talking about guns and serial numbers
I did indicate I did not want to know. And that is based on everthing else he has done or is doing
He has reasons for everything
I just am not sure I would want to know what that reasoning is
You could always stick your fingers in your ears and go "La la la la..." like you do with anything else that contradicts your world view.
Now you have reading and comprehension problems?
Yep. Hard day grading exams, eyes are tired.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
rushmc 23
You need to work on your comprehension
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jgoose71 0
Quote> And why is Obama pardoning him?
Because it's part of his job. And clearly he doesn't hate guns as much as right wingers think.
Then maybe you can explain to me why he wants to ban assault weapons while sending the message that Saturday Night Specials with the serial numbers filed off are OK then. Why is one worse than the other?
How many people were killed in Chicago by assault weapons vs. Saturday Night specials last year?
"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything
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GeorgiaDon 385
I read about the details of this case somewhere, but of course when I googled the guy's name I got 20 pages of links to conservative/Republican/"gun rights" types going apeshit over Obama being hypocritical and whatnot.Quote"Larry Wayne Thornton -- Forsyth, Georgia.
Offense: Possession of an unregistered firearm; possession of a firearm without a serial number.
Sentence: Four years probation."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/03/01/obama-pardons-white-house/1957797/
All while he's going full retard trying to hammer the shit out of law abiding gun owners.
I did eventually recall that I saw the article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution. For those who don't want to read the whole article (it is 1/2 a page after all), here is the relevant bit:
"Thornton said that in 1974 he was living in Macon and gave a friend a ride to Atlanta. After arriving, the friend came across a gun he wanted to buy but he didn’t have the money. Thornton gave him $20. When the friend returned with the gun wrapped in a towel, Thornton decided to keep it in the trunk of his 1973 Monte Carlo until the friend paid the $20, plus other money he owed.
“When he brought the gun back, he said, ‘This is what I bought,’ ” Thornton recalled. “I didn’t know it was illegal. I was just thinking about getting back my $20.”
Two weeks later, Bibb County detectives arrived at his Macon home and went straight to the trunk of the car. To this day, he said, he doesn’t know how they knew he had the weapon, but he suspects his friend told them.
“I found out after I was arrested that the gun didn’t even have a firing pin.”
In case anyone cares to assume Thornton is some sort of a career criminal, consider this:
"The conviction had prevented him from voting but, luckily, did not stand in the way of Thornton landing some pretty good jobs over the years, including one at Georgia Power, where he worked 28 years before retiring seven years ago."
So there you have it. Forty years ago (were you even born then, 1969912?) a guy loans his friend $20 to buy a gun, and keeps the gun in the trunk of his car until the "friend" pays back the debt. A couple of weeks later the police show up, knowing all about the gun in the trunk. [According to another article I read somewhere, the "friend" got in trouble with the police over something else, and cut himself a deal by turning in the guy who gave him a ride and loaned him $20, a guy who never saw the gun or had any knowledge that it had been altered.] After serving four months probation [consider how minor this offense had to be considered at the time, for a black man to get probation in Georgia] this guy goes on to work a full career at Georgia Power, retire, and become a great-grandfather.
This is the guy you gun-o-philes want to hold up as the shining example of Obama hypocrisy? This is the guy you want to argue doesn't deserve to be pardoned? Really, that's just totally fucked up.
Either that, or you're just totally disinterested in letting facts get in the way of your prejudices.
Don
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Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
Tolerance is the cost we must pay for our adventure in liberty. (Dworkin, 1996)
“Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.” (Yeats)
So much for the "Obama hates guns" meme.
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