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> However, in my mind at least, it highlights the issue of abuse in these programs.
>Personally, I think more should be done for those with legitimate needs, but first real
>efforts need to be made, that do not violate peoples rights, to improve the efficency of
>these programs.

Well, that's a good reason to NOT do drug tests. They are in general a waste of time and money. In Florida, for example, a recent round of drug testing cost the state over $100,000 - and resulted in only 2.6% positive results, of which the vast majority were marijuana and not hard drugs. The savings garnered by denying benefits for the people who test positive for pot? About $50,000.

So that was a most excellent waste of $50,000.



So now you are against wasteful spending? My, my, there is some hope.

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>Great, now we are getting somewhere. Define wasteful.

Are you taking lessons from RushMC? If you really don't know, try dictionary.com. If this is another semantics game, I invite you to play it with yourself.



Nope, just years of watching you weasel and come up with your own definitions.

Can we agree that wasteful is an expenditure of money, time and/or energy, which does not result in a productive result?

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I wonder if the whole issue can be re-worked. No more welfare. You just work for the government instead. That would make the testing easy enough. You still get the check, it's just not welfare anymore. Maybe you spend 20hrs per week cleaning a public building or something? The rate would have to be something below minimum wage to encourage a return to the private sector. The hours could only be part time to provide time to look for employment. There shouldn't be any benefits.

I don't know. Just a thought.



OMG where have you been. They're already doing that. Come to DC... you'll see.


I went through Charlotte NC airport a few weeks back and via a long walk there was DHS sitting at each corner via isolated hallways. I counted 9 people sitting. They could have been knitting but instead they just were staring into space...

Look, its about them.... that's what this administration is about.

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Not QUITE what I had in mind, but I take your point.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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Care to take a guess as to how many people in that 4, 000 actually did have "hot" urine? ;)

I get the influence that labs have on drug policies.

I'm not advocating for Florida's system or any other for that matter. But, presuming the actual intent is to give people a little dose of "tough love" and save tax payer dollars, I'm all about that general idea.



Saving taxpayer $$ - that's funny. See attachment.

Arithmetic clearly has a liberal bias.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Care to take a guess as to how many people in that 4, 000 actually did have "hot" urine? ;)

I get the influence that labs have on drug policies.

I'm not advocating for Florida's system or any other for that matter. But, presuming the actual intent is to give people a little dose of "tough love" and save tax payer dollars, I'm all about that general idea.



Saving taxpayer $$ - that's funny. See attachment.

Arithmetic clearly has a liberal bias.

I guess they should have taken blood samples. :D:D

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