Kennedy 0 #1 February 21, 2013 QuoteIllinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online. The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.” [snip]witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #2 February 21, 2013 Completely unconsititutional. I looked him up - he's lawyer. He's a fucking embarrassment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 February 21, 2013 While there are legitimate reasons for wanting to protect the ability of people to be anonymous on the internet, I have very little sympathy for most of them since a shitload of them are anonymous simply so they can be assholes. In other freedom of speech news: http://globalvoicesonline.org/2013/02/16/saudi-twitter-user-arrested-accused-of-following-tempters/ THAT is a lack of freedom of speech.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 February 21, 2013 Unconstitutional in more ways than one. Not just the freedom of speech issue but also a significant problem with dormant commerce clause, supremacy clause, etc.... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #5 February 21, 2013 QuoteCompletely unconsititutional. I looked him up - he's lawyer. He's a fucking embarrassment. So......is there an D or an R next to his name? Normally it's a race to identify an obvious idiot to their party - (even if the idiot is capable of independent idiocy) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #6 February 21, 2013 I'm guessing Mr. Silverstein saw some nasty comments about himself on a website and is outraged! OUTRAGED! that anyone could be allowed to be so mean to him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 February 21, 2013 Quotea “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.” so I have to assume this only applies to government owned websites? because a private website owner can can keep or delete whatever the hell they want to on their site, for whatever random reason they want to, and it's none of the government's business (normal slander, liable type laws applicable of course) right? . . . right? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #8 February 21, 2013 QuoteI'm guessing Mr. Silverstein saw some nasty comments about himself on a website and is outraged! OUTRAGED! that anyone could be allowed to be so mean to him. Please point me to the website so I can add mine to them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 February 21, 2013 QuoteQuoteCompletely unconsititutional. I looked him up - he's lawyer. He's a fucking embarrassment. So......is there an D or an R next to his name? Normally it's a race to identify an obvious idiot to their party - (even if the idiot is capable of independent idiocy) Dem. He's obviously adopted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #10 February 21, 2013 The problem isn't that people post things to the internet anonymously. The problem is that people aren't always very good at treating anonymous opinions (as distinct from anonymous tips, whistle-blowing, etc.) for what they're worth: not much of anything. It's why teachers/professors get a little twitch in their eye if a student asks them how to include a citation to wikipedia. When lawmakers propose legislation like this or when a media outlet reports on what comments appeared on a youtube channel (see: SMB injury incident thread) I fear it reinforces the misconception that anonymous opinions on the internet actually matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #11 February 21, 2013 QuoteThe problem isn't that people post things to the internet anonymously. The problem is that people aren't always very good at treating anonymous opinions (as distinct from anonymous tips, whistle-blowing, etc.) for what they're worth: not much of anything. It's why teachers/professors get a little twitch in their eye if a student asks them how to include a citation to wikipedia. When lawmakers propose legislation like this or when a media outlet reports on what comments appeared on a youtube channel (see: SMB injury incident thread) I fear it reinforces the misconception that anonymous opinions on the internet actually matter. Well, as sensible as your point is, anonymous comments on the internet sometimes can matter, because they can be used to slander someone; and defamation sometimes can be very harmful. Nonetheless, in the US, thanks to the Constitution (unlike even most every other "Western democracy" in the world), there is absolutely nothing you can do about libel or slander other than seek monetary civil damages. You cannot prosecute it criminally; you cannot prevent it in advance from being published (that's called "prior restraint"), and you cannot require it to be removed from publication. That goes for you, too, Mr. Silverstein, you stupid fuck. Please surrender your license to practice law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 February 22, 2013 Yep, pretty much what I figured as well. What as asshat. Reminded me of the guy who introduced a bill to ban altering digital images and posting them. (I refuse to call it photoshopping and no one gets it when you call it GIMPing). I think that fuckwit was an R, but don't quote me. And Andy, lawrocket, that one was a lawyer too. ps - I left out party affiliation intentionally to discuss Silverstein's stupidity rather than compare R stupidity to D stupidity.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #13 February 22, 2013 Quoteps - I left out party affiliation intentionally to discuss Silverstein's stupidity rather than compare R stupidity to D stupidity. that's objective - why would you do that, if it was an R, Kallend would have posted it in seconds. oh - but the newpaper didn't bother either, did they? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #14 February 23, 2013 Quote Quote ps - I left out party affiliation intentionally to discuss Silverstein's stupidity rather than compare R stupidity to D stupidity. that's objective - why would you do that, if it was an R, Kallend would have posted it in seconds. Like in THIS thread I started? Oh, wait, it seems that you are WRONG... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
