Gunman in school situation defused by PE teacher and armed school resource officer

[BillyVance 35]

Gunman entered school and held students hostage until the school's resource officer, also armed, immediately responded and defused the situation with no injuries. Job well done.

Wonder if this will make the national news...

http://www.abc3340.com/story/21141720/after-chelsea-middle-lockdown-parents-and-school-leaders-talk-safety

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[lawrocket 3]

What an awful situation. I know many people don't want to have their kids live in a world where an armed officer would be on a school campus.

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What an awful situation. I know many people don't want to have their kids live in a world where an armed officer would be on a school campus.

That would be nice. But it's no longer reality. Copycats will keep popping up to do it again. And given the choice between school slaughters or armed officers, we should go with the armed officers. And when armed officers become the norm, the copycats won't try anymore because it's no longer possible to succeed.

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After the school shooting in Connecticut, Sheriff Curry asked the Shelby County Commission to provide resources officers at each campus. It said no, but he used money from his budget to do it anyway. It was one of those officers - stationed at Chelsea Middle - who made certain no one was hurt.

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Sounds like this is one sherrif that has a good chance at geting re-elected.

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After the school shooting in Connecticut, Sheriff Curry asked the Shelby County Commission to provide resources officers at each campus. It said no, but he used money from his budget to do it anyway. It was one of those officers - stationed at Chelsea Middle - who made certain no one was hurt.

Or else he'll be fired for defying orders.

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the copycats won't try anymore because it's no longer possible to succeed

That's worked well in Central America, where armed guards are common.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Andy9o8 2]

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After the school shooting in Connecticut, Sheriff Curry asked the Shelby County Commission to provide resources officers at each campus. It said no, but he used money from his budget to do it anyway. It was one of those officers - stationed at Chelsea Middle - who made certain no one was hurt.

Or else he'll be fired for defying orders.

They might not be able to, SP, since he's an elected official. And contextually, it might actually be that his request was for the Commission to provide the funding; so it might not be construed as disobedience of an order. And there's also the question: who does the Sheriff of Shelby County report to, other than the citizens? I haven't looked it up here, but most elected officials in most jurisdictions in the US usually can only be removed via impeachment or recall election.

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After the school shooting in Connecticut, Sheriff Curry asked the Shelby County Commission to provide resources officers at each campus. It said no, but he used money from his budget to do it anyway. It was one of those officers - stationed at Chelsea Middle - who made certain no one was hurt.

Or else he'll be fired for defying orders.

Well if the parents of the kids at the school have anything to do with it I bet he keeps his job and gets re-elected again.

[lawrocket 3]

Or it'll be like the Delaware courthouse shooting. Keep the gun outside of the security checkpoint, find the victim/victims where waiting to pass through and shoot there.

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[rushmc 23]

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the copycats won't try anymore because it's no longer possible to succeed

That's worked well in Central America, where armed guards are common.

Wendy P.

Wendy

30% of the US public schools currently have armed security

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Houston and Los Angeles being two of the largest cities with school police forces.

[BillyVance 35]

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After the school shooting in Connecticut, Sheriff Curry asked the Shelby County Commission to provide resources officers at each campus. It said no, but he used money from his budget to do it anyway. It was one of those officers - stationed at Chelsea Middle - who made certain no one was hurt.

Or else he'll be fired for defying orders.

A sheriff is an electable position, meaning he was voted in, not hired by a commission or mayor.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[BillyVance 35]

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What an awful situation. I know many people don't want to have their kids live in a world where an armed officer would be on a school campus.

Gone are the days where the worst thing you ever saw in high school was a bloody fight between a white biker-looking dude with a metal chain around his fist and a black gansta wannabe armed with a metal pipe. I helped break up that fight.

Nowadays, they just shoot each other.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

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A sheriff is an electable position, meaning he was voted in, not hired by a commission or mayor.

Here in Cali, even though the sheriff is elected, the Sheriff still has to deal with the constraints of funding provided by the county Board of Supervisors. Our local Sheriff Mims was involved in a 3 year battle over whether she or the board got to control how she spent the money.

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[BillyVance 35]

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A sheriff is an electable position, meaning he was voted in, not hired by a commission or mayor.

Here in Cali, even though the sheriff is elected, the Sheriff still has to deal with the constraints of funding provided by the county Board of Supervisors. Our local Sheriff Mims was involved in a 3 year battle over whether she or the board got to control how she spent the money.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting how the commission here spins this situation.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Stumpy 284]

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the copycats won't try anymore because it's no longer possible to succeed

That's worked well in Central America, where armed guards are common.

Wendy P.

Wow - with all those armed guards, central america must be rolling in freedom!

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Gunman entered school and held students hostage until the school's resource officer, also armed, immediately responded and defused the situation with no injuries. Job well done.

Wonder if this will make the national news...

http://www.abc3340.com/story/21141720/after-chelsea-middle-lockdown-parents-and-school-leaders-talk-safety

I am assuming the kid held hostages and didn't kill anyone because he knew there was an armed resource officer and didn't want to get shot at.

So he just held hostages and gave up.

This is why all schools should have armed guards, then gunmen will all give up peacefully.

Can you imagine the bloodshed if that resource officer hadn't been armed with a gun in order to TALK sense to the kid!!

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This is why all schools should have armed guards

Think back to what we did with airliners after the 9-1-1 attacks.

There was a call to arm pilots. Others objected. There was much hysteria about all the passengers getting sucked out through a bullet hole in the fuselage. Once the ridiculousness died down, cooler heads prevailed. And then we started giving pilots who volunteered specialized training to carry arms in the cockpit. We reinforced cockpit doors. And we added armed air marshals to the passenger cabins of some flights. And it's all worked! There have been no wrongful shootings or negative incidents with the guns, and air travel is safer because of it. The terrorists now know that they can't get away with the same kind of attack again.

So how about we do the same thing with schools. Make classroom doors lockable from the inside and bulletproof, so that a shooter can't get to the kids. Allow teachers who volunteer, to receive specialized training to carry a gun in the school. And have an armed guard, if not in each school, maybe some who rotate amongst different schools, so that a shooter will never know which school might present a deadly force deterrent. And you advertise all this to dissuade potential shooters of the uselessness of trying.

Simple, cheap, effective.

Now let the hysteria begin.

So we can get beyond it to what's reasonable, like we did with the airlines.

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the copycats won't try anymore because it's no longer possible to succeed

That's worked well in Central America, where armed guards are common.

Wendy P.

Wow - with all those armed guards, central america must be rolling in freedom!

You misunderstand. Armed guards provide security. Armed Citizens provide freedom. There is a huge difference. Sometimes, they are mutually exclusive according to Franklin.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.