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Joe Biden admits gun control will not stop mass shootings

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The truth

The absolute truth
Biden gaffs the truth

So, if the new proposed laws will not change anything, what possible motive is there for them to procede and push this agenda?

I wonder if anyone will answer this question?
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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They want to eliminate the ability of the citizens of the US to resist the government with any effectiveness.
This has taken place many times throughout the history of civilizations around the world.
For a few examples-The romans would take away all the swords,spears,arrows of conquered people and then force them to to pay taxes,or force them into military service,or slavery.
The Japanese ruling class also outlawed all weapons from the hands of the average person so that there would be less chance of revolt against the tyranny of the rulers.
The english tried to eliminate the Scots ability to resist in order to oppress them into servitude(Braveheart).
The nazis and hitler were better able to set up their 3rd reich after germany's gun control actions left people without the effective means of resistance.
It's often said that history repeats itself.

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The english tried to eliminate the Scots ability to resist in order to oppress them into servitude(Braveheart).
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Hollywood's versions of history are not generally reliable, and Braveheart is a perfect example of this.

How's the tinfoil hat working out for you?
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You seem to like insulting anyone who will not drink your koolaid buddy.
By the way since you like technocalties,I think you meant aluminum foil,not tin foil ,of which I wear neither.
I prefer not to wear any hat since I still have all of my hair.
If you got it flaunt it baby!
Braveheart might not be the best example,but it was agreat movie.
The history of rome,japan,germany,and others is however very real.

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Yes drones seem to very effective,yet poor poverty stricken people still seem to put up pretty good resistance with small arms and explosives.
Unless a military force is willing blast a territory into oblivion,it seems it is very difficult to control said territory if there is a pissed off and armed population willing to fight back.
Drones are very scary though.

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Drones are very scary though.



Not really.

As Iran has shown they can be taken down. If Iran can do it, you think operators in the US could not?

I'm sure there are more than a few American teenagers who you could give $10K in equipment to and they could start pulling drones out of the sky in no time.

You want to really piss off the American people. Start attacking with drones.

Bottom line. It's just not going to happen.

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I think we can agree that it wont happen (very often) but when it does...dont you think a government as strong as ours couldnt just pay some people off...sweep a few things under the rug? There are a lot of aspects of the government precious few americans know they even exist.

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Seat belts don't stop all road deaths. Air Traffic Control doesn't stop all collisions between aircraft. Smoke detectors don't stop all deaths in house fires. Sprinkler systems don't stop all fires in commercial buildings.

The point you are attempting to make is STUPID.
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Well I'm just trying to make a point. It wouldnt be the fist time you made a stupid post either.


But lets just see how stupid this is.

Do you remember a gentlemen named Pat Tillman?

Played for the Arizona Cardinals before enlisting in the US Army Rangers. Killed in action.


Then many years later it was divulged he was killed by friendly fire?

Wasnt that a coverup?

So how stupid is the idea of the government doing coverups?


Dont think for a second...even in your mind that it doesnt happen.

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Well I'm just trying to make a point. It wouldnt be the fist time you made a stupid post either.


But lets just see how stupid this is.

Do you remember a gentlemen named Pat Tillman?

Played for the Arizona Cardinals before enlisting in the US Army Rangers. Killed in action.


Then many years later it was divulged he was killed by friendly fire?

Wasnt that a coverup?

So how stupid is the idea of the government doing coverups?


Dont think for a second...even in your mind that it doesnt happen.



All very true, but how does it relate to the topic of this thread.

(Generally speaking there are too many blabbermouths in government (including the military) for any coverup to be successful over the long term.)
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I think regulator is pointing to the fact that the vice president like all the other new gun legislation supporters,believe that these new laws being proposed are useless in stopping crime,and yet they are willing to push these laws on us anyway.
Why are they pushing for legislation that they believe will make no real difference?
Is there perhaps another motive for restricting our rights?
I could be wrong but I think this is the point he is trying to make with the coverup reference.

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Correct...which is what probably eventually led to people finding out he was KIA by FF. But I could be mistaken but I think it was someone in his unit that leaked info to the media (probably from years of guilt). But this is just from my memory of what happened. I could be wrong.

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I think regulator is pointing to the fact that the vice president like all the other new gun legislation supporters,believe that these new laws being proposed are useless in stopping crime,and yet they are willing to push these laws on us anyway.



No, that is NOT what Biden said. Just because something is not 100% successful doesn't mean it's useless.

Flu vaccine is about 60% effective. Does that mean it's useless? NO, it doesn't.
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I think regulator is pointing to the fact that the vice president like all the other new gun legislation supporters,believe that these new laws being proposed are useless in stopping crime,and yet they are willing to push these laws on us anyway.



No, that is NOT what Biden said. Just because something is not 100% successful doesn't mean it's useless.

Flu vaccine is about 60% effective. Does that mean it's useless? NO, it doesn't.



As far as I know, flu vaxine is strongly recommended for seniors and health care workers and perhaps children and others have a choice as to whether or not to use it.

You seem to want to take away the choice of someone to own an ar-15. different thing altogether.
If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
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>As far as I know, flu vaxine is strongly recommended for seniors and health care
>workers and perhaps children and others have a choice as to whether or not to use it.

Yes, they do. But you can't walk into a pharmacy and demand a flu shot, then walk out with it. It has to be given by a healthcare worker there, and they have to do at least a quick history first. And you CANNOT just leave with the vaccine in a syringe.

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>Flu vaccine is about 60% effective.Does it mean it's useless?NO,it doesn't.

Most of my mothers side of the family,including herself and my step dad,have been getting the flu shot for the last few years.
No one on my dads side of the family has used the flu shot,including myself(my dads side has alot more people by the way).
Everyone on my mothers side has gotten the flu,and two of my cousins have had severe cases this year along with my grandmother(she has ben getting the shot since it's been out) who was hospitalized with it.
My dads older brother had a severe case of the flu,but did not seek medical care and was fine after about a week.
The rest of us on my dads side have not had the flu for several years.
I've had all the shots they gave to kids in the sixties at school for stuff like polio and what not.
Never anything for the flu.
But hey if it makes you feel better getting a flu shot then get one,I'll pass on it myself.
If you do not want to have a gun,then don't get one,but I would like to keep mine and maybe get another since they have actually saved me a couple of times without any injury to anyone involved.
Peace through superior fire power.

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