WE Need To Ban Parades

[rushmc 23]

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>but the others are ALL quite simply, tools.

Do you think they are therefore the same? Do you treat your spoons with the same level of care/caution you treat your guns?

No
But banning guns would be just as usful as banning guns

Or large magazines

Or pistol grip guns

or
....

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 897]

No they clearly are not as I have a constitutional right to own a weapon.
I choose to own cutlery.

[rushmc 23]

I choose to own cutlery.

Which is a privalige

Not to mention good manners

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,119]

>No they clearly are not

I agree. And that's why I take issue with people who equate banning parades to banning guns. (Or, more to the point, restricting parades to restricting guns.) Anyone who thinks a gun should be treated the same as a parade (or a spoon) should not be allowed to own a gun.

[regulator 0]

But the real question would be:

How would that determination be made that wouldnt strip rights of law abiding citizens?

[Andy9o8 2]

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I take issue with people who equate banning parades to banning guns. (Or, more to the point, restricting parades to restricting guns.)

Why?

[billvon 3,119]

>How would that determination be made that wouldnt strip rights of law abiding citizens?

Ideally? A firearms-safety test.

[rushmc 23]

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>No they clearly are not

I agree. And that's why I take issue with people who equate banning parades to banning guns. (Or, more to the point, restricting parades to restricting guns.) Anyone who thinks a gun should be treated the same as a parade (or a spoon) should not be allowed to own a gun.

Banning parades is actually less rediculas than banning guns

That is the point

No one has a right to a parade (but people did die there so where is the outrage)

People do however have a right to arms

I am not treating them the same

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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>No they clearly are not

I agree. And that's why I take issue with people who equate banning parades to banning guns. (Or, more to the point, restricting parades to restricting guns.) Anyone who thinks a gun should be treated the same as a parade (or a spoon) should not be allowed to own a gun.

All I have done is turned your tactic back on you

And you dont like it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,119]

>No one has a right to a parade . . .People do however have a right to arms

So you think the First Amendment can be overlooked but not the second. That's fine - but it also means you don't have a leg to stand on when others think the Second Amendment can be overlooked but not the first. You're doing the same thing they are.

[billvon 3,119]

>All I have done is turned your tactic back on you

And you've shown that equating spoons (or parades) to guns is absurd. I agree.

[rushmc 23]

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>No one has a right to a parade . . .People do however have a right to arms

So you think the First Amendment can be overlooked but not the second. That's fine - but it also means you don't have a leg to stand on when others think the Second Amendment can be overlooked but not the first. You're doing the same thing they are.

Not at all

I have nothing against free speech.
But to equate it, since people died at a parade (a free speech equal if you will in this thread) then we should register it, limit it, and maybe take it away

A parade (for a winning team) is not a right and it is not first amemendment

And it is less than honest for you to say that is my stance and I got a feeling you know it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 2]

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No one has a right to a parade (but people did die there so where is the outrage)

People do however have a right to arms

I am not treating them the same

I treat them the same... more or less.

[FreeFallFiend 0]

It's amusing people are upset about the parade...and not the riot Sunday night. My girlfriend had just landed at BWI at midnight and taking a cab to her downtown hotel about 30 min away. An hour and a half later she called me freaking out because the cab wasnt moving, people were smashing windows of parked cars next to her, and someone had just jumped on the hood of her cab. My instant reaction was "Oh so the ravens lost?" (Obviously I am not a football fan.) I was shocked to hear they won...and the ensuing chaos in their own city?

So my question is why is this allowed? I am all for personal liberties and the right to assemble, but that stops at destruction of property and violence. LEOs know this behavior is going to occur so why is it tolerated?

Fiend

I am about to take my last voyage, a great leap in the dark. - Thomas Hobbes.

[rushmc 23]

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>All I have done is turned your tactic back on you

And you've shown that equating spoons (or parades) to guns is absurd. I agree.

You are the one who keeps bringing up spoons

I just ran with it

If you dont like that direction dont start it

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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It's amusing people are upset about the parade...and not the riot Sunday night. My girlfriend had just landed at BWI at midnight and taking a cab to her downtown hotel about 30 min away. An hour and a half later she called me freaking out because the cab wasnt moving, people were smashing windows of parked cars next to her, and someone had just jumped on the hood of her cab. My instant reaction was "Oh so the ravens lost?" (Obviously I am not a football fan.) I was shocked to hear they won...and the ensuing chaos in their own city?

So my question is why is this allowed? I am all for personal liberties and the right to assemble, but that stops at destruction of property and violence. LEOs know this behavior is going to occur so why is it tolerated?

Of course there is a right to assemble I guess I dont call that a parade

And it happens everytime a big city team wins
It has become an excuse to be lawless I guess

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,119]

>But to equate it, since people died at a parade (a free speech equal if you will in
>this thread) then we should register it, limit it, and maybe take it away

It IS limited. In many places you need to get a permit, and sometimes (if you want to have a parade down I-95, or on an airport runway) it is denied. Works OK while preserving First Amendment freedoms.

Pretty good model to follow, eh?

[rushmc 23]

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>But to equate it, since people died at a parade (a free speech equal if you will in
>this thread) then we should register it, limit it, and maybe take it away

It IS limited. In many places you need to get a permit, and sometimes (if you want to have a parade down I-95, or on an airport runway) it is denied. Works OK while preserving First Amendment freedoms.

Pretty good model to follow, eh?

IMO a parade to celebrate a team championship is not a right

But we can disagree on that

But, if you do thing that a parade and gun ownership are rights, then my point is even stronger

I think you know this thread was sarcastic in nature

And do I think a parade should be banned because of this isolated incident?

No

Do I think we need more gun laws because the banners are using the deaths of children to further a political agenda that will serve only to restrict the rights of law abiding gun owners? Same answer No

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[regulator 0]

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It's amusing people are upset about the parade...and not the riot Sunday night. My girlfriend had just landed at BWI at midnight and taking a cab to her downtown hotel about 30 min away. An hour and a half later she called me freaking out because the cab wasnt moving, people were smashing windows of parked cars next to her, and someone had just jumped on the hood of her cab. My instant reaction was "Oh so the ravens lost?" (Obviously I am not a football fan.) I was shocked to hear they won...and the ensuing chaos in their own city?

So my question is why is this allowed? I am all for personal liberties and the right to assemble, but that stops at destruction of property and violence. LEOs know this behavior is going to occur so why is it tolerated?

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