Is societal collapse imminent?

[Skyrad 0]

Do you think and believe that society as we know it is near collapse? Would you pay to live in a medieval type citadel ready to be under siege from a collapsed society? Are these people nutters, paranoid phobics manipulated by media outlets or do they have a genuine foundation for their actions?

http://news.sky.com/story/1048119/idaho-survivalists-plan-walled-citadel

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[quade 4]

The person who is developing the property is preying on the fears and prejudices of people. It's a formula that has worked for thousands of years. Sometimes it turns into a formalized religion, sometimes a cult. Sometimes it does NOT end well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Gate_(religious_group)

I could list others. Hardly should need to though.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[ManagingPrime 0]

Why do I get the impression someone came up with the concept while watching The Walking Dead?

[davjohns 1]

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Do you think and believe that society as we know it is near collapse? Would you pay to live in a medieval type citadel ready to be under siege from a collapsed society? Are these people nutters, paranoid phobics manipulated by media outlets or do they have a genuine foundation for their actions?

http://news.sky.com/story/1048119/idaho-survivalists-plan-walled-citadel

No.
Will there be wenching?
Yes.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[Arvoitus 1]

I don't know about societal collapse but I do know that if the SHTF and there is any longer-then-a-week-disruption in the fuel and/or food distribution system, I don't want to be anywhere near to any of the million people metropolises around the world when that happens.

Your rights end where my feelings begin.

[Skyrad 0]

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Do you think and believe that society as we know it is near collapse? Would you pay to live in a medieval type citadel ready to be under siege from a collapsed society? Are these people nutters, paranoid phobics manipulated by media outlets or do they have a genuine foundation for their actions?

http://news.sky.com/story/1048119/idaho-survivalists-plan-walled-citadel

No.
Will there be wenching?
Yes.

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Skyrad 0]

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I don't know about societal collapse but I do know that if the SHTF and there is any longer-then-a-week-disruption in the fuel and/or food distribution system, I don't want to be anywhere near to any of the million people metropolises around the world when that happens.

So what will you do?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[wmw999 2,587]

The best part is how the developer has a felony conviction on his record, and is therefore ineligible to own firearms .

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Andy9o8 2]

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Is societal collapse imminent?

Of course it is. Has been for thousands of years. Better get ready, boy.

[OHCHUTE 0]

Collapse? What collapse. OH the money. The state of Virginia just today is proposing issuing its own currency. Other states want the same as there is no faith in the Federal Reserve. When the money goes, so goes society.

[wmw999 2,587]

The application fee is only about $200. I think you should jump on it. I hear winters are getting milder (I'm sure it's just natural fluctuation), so that shouldn't be a problem either.

And just think -- no dissenting opinons!

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Andy9o8 2]

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Collapse? What collapse. OH the money. The state of Virginia just today is proposing issuing its own currency. Other states want the same as there is no faith in the Federal Reserve. When the money goes, so goes society.

Hell in a handbasket.

[lawrocket 3]

So they want to build a prison and live inside of it, isolating themselves from everyone else.

And the problem is???

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[billvon 3,111]

>Do you think and believe that society as we know it is near collapse?

Nope, no more so than it's been every other time people predicted societal collapse.

> Would you pay to live in a medieval type citadel ready to be under siege from a
>collapsed society?

Nope.

>Are these people nutters, paranoid phobics manipulated by media outlets or do they
>have a genuine foundation for their actions?

Are they nuts? Probably a bit. Do they have a foundation for their actions? I am sure they think they do.

Are we really more at risk today than we were during, say, the Cuban Missile Crisis or the Civil War? Nope.

[toolbox 0]

I was one of the walking dead after attending a super bowl party with an open bar full of pendleton and IPA.

[toolbox 0]

What to you think of the projected world wide increase in population and the diminishing resources,like fresh water,food and the energy needed to move things.

[wolfriverjoe 1,523]

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I don't know about societal collapse but I do know that if the SHTF and there is any longer-then-a-week-disruption in the fuel and/or food distribution system, I don't want to be anywhere near to any of the million people metropolises around the world when that happens.

So what will you do?

Well, some of us have a full pantry and acess to a reliable, safe water source (it's called a "well").
I'd be fine for a couple of weeks while the shit sorted itself out. The menu would get pretty boring, but I wouldn't starve. I live in a small city, and I am an easy walk to the countryside. Hell, I even have whitetail deer going through my backyard (100+ lbs of fresh meat right there)

The situations that have resulted after large scale natural disasters make a certain level of preparation prudent. Nothing extravagant, nothing expensive, just few essentials to last a few weeks of chaos.
After a couple of weeks, it's either going to be over or it will have gone completely to hell.

And Andy and Bill are absolutely correct.

Society is as close to collapse as it has been for the last millinia.

Chicken Little, Miller, Applewhite, Camping, and on and on.
"The sky is falling, follow me!!!"

"There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy

"~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo

[rhaig 0]

I read over their site and did some basic math a few weeks ago.

They want you to start paying on your lease before they even break ground. To me this sounds like a great way to steal a bunch of peoples money. Take payments for a couple of years, declare that you couldn't find a suitable location, declare bankruptcy, flee. Even if you return a large portion of the money you were paid, it's a huge cash cow.

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Rob

[regulator 0]

I think the same thing happened with some type of theme park around the houston area. They havent even broken ground yet either. I'm not quite sure on the fact that its a theme park, but its something to that effect. Maybe wendy, since she lives here can remember hearing something about this on the news.

I think this might be it


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Earth-Quest-Adventures-Houston/240136904264

[wmw999 2,587]

'Fraid I missed it.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[jakee 1,594]

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Do you think and believe that society as we know it is near collapse? Would you pay to live in a medieval type citadel ready to be under siege from a collapsed society? Are these people nutters, paranoid phobics manipulated by media outlets or do they have a genuine foundation for their actions?

He should put that on Kickstarter.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Andy9o8 2]

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I read over their site and did some basic math a few weeks ago. They want you to start paying on your lease before they even break ground. To me this sounds like a great way to steal a bunch of peoples money. Take payments for a couple of years, declare that you couldn't find a suitable location, declare bankruptcy, flee. Even if you return a large portion of the money you were paid, it's a huge cash cow.

In other words, it should be posted in Wind Tunnels.

[skydiver30960 0]

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Residents would be required to stock enough food and water to last a year.

A 1,200sq ft house in the citadel would cost...

Dude, by the time you shacked up a year's worth of food and water (even crap like MREs) that 1200 sqft home will be just about filled up.

Back OT: We're a virus, and one that's tough to kill at that. While the definition of "living" may change through the years, we're going to be around a lot longer than mankind probably has any right to be.

Elvisio "looking forward to Thunderdome, though" Rodriguez

[JerryBaumchen 1,466]

Hi Skyrad,

I will excuse you since you are British.

But as soon as I saw they were located in Hayden, ID it all made sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_Nations

Upper Idaho, a nation unto itself.

JerryBaumchen

PS) And as a good friend always says: They walk among us.

[Skyrad 0]

You think its just a AN plan for a white homeland of some sort? I thought that was disbanded when the went bankrupt?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca