kallend 2,150 #26 February 6, 2013 On the other hand: www.slashgear.com/small-turbocharged-engines-dont-deliver-on-fuel-economy-promises-says-report-06268300/... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #27 February 6, 2013 Very few automobiles deliver the promised fuel economy. Dog bites man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #28 February 6, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote note that he didn't say electric cars weren't not viable, he said "electric vehicle is not a viable replacement for most conventional cars". Neither are motorcycles or pickup trucks, but both remain viable vehicles within their intended use. That's the point right there. When electric cars can fully re-charge as quickly as liquid-fueled cars, and consistently have the same power and range, then they can look to fill the same niche. In the meantime, I'm hoarding dilithium. But I can't tell you why. Yet. Li2 is a lie, too. Yeah, right. Next thing you'll be telling us warp drive is impossible, too. Obviously you're in on it. Does anyone else notice that Hollywood depiction of warp drive and halucinogens are indistinguishable from each other? What do you mean, "Hollywood depiction"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #29 February 6, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote note that he didn't say electric cars weren't not viable, he said "electric vehicle is not a viable replacement for most conventional cars". Neither are motorcycles or pickup trucks, but both remain viable vehicles within their intended use. That's the point right there. When electric cars can fully re-charge as quickly as liquid-fueled cars, and consistently have the same power and range, then they can look to fill the same niche. In the meantime, I'm hoarding dilithium. But I can't tell you why. Yet. Li2 is a lie, too. Yeah, right. Next thing you'll be telling us warp drive is impossible, too. Obviously you're in on it. Does anyone else notice that Hollywood depiction of warp drive and halucinogens are indistinguishable from each other? What do you mean, "Hollywood depiction"? you know... as opposed to in reality-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #30 February 6, 2013 >On the other hand: "Ford wasn’t alone in getting dinged; the turbocharged Chevrolet Cruze received similar comments. However, the publication does say that BMWs turbocharged four-cylinder engines are able to deliver good fuel economy and acceleration." So some car companies got it wrong, some got it right. Sounds like most sorts of technological development. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #31 February 6, 2013 Quote>Not really. The power generation is just as wasteful of resources as if you were using >petroleum products to power the vehicle directly EV's are considerably more efficient than gasoline powered vehicles. In other words, if your choice is: 1) A modern gasoline powered car or 2) A modern power plant fired by gasoline charging an electric car then 2) is considerably more efficient. (Less gasoline burned per mile, less pollution etc.) EV's get between 70 and 100 miles per gallon equivalent. There's a 3rd option now: combustion engine / compressed air hybrid http://www.psa-peugeot-citroen.com/en/inside-our-industrial-environment/innovation-and-rd/hybrid-air-an-innovative-full-hybrid-gasoline-system-articleRemster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #32 February 6, 2013 QuoteQuote>Not really. The power generation is just as wasteful of resources as if you were using >petroleum products to power the vehicle directly EV's are considerably more efficient than gasoline powered vehicles. In other words, if your choice is: 1) A modern gasoline powered car or 2) A modern power plant fired by gasoline charging an electric car then 2) is considerably more efficient. (Less gasoline burned per mile, less pollution etc.) EV's get between 70 and 100 miles per gallon equivalent. There's a 3rd option now: combustion engine / compressed air hybrid http://www.psa-peugeot-citroen.com/en/inside-our-industrial-environment/innovation-and-rd/hybrid-air-an-innovative-full-hybrid-gasoline-system-article There's also a 4th option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #33 February 6, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuote>Not really. The power generation is just as wasteful of resources as if you were using >petroleum products to power the vehicle directly EV's are considerably more efficient than gasoline powered vehicles. In other words, if your choice is: 1) A modern gasoline powered car or 2) A modern power plant fired by gasoline charging an electric car then 2) is considerably more efficient. (Less gasoline burned per mile, less pollution etc.) EV's get between 70 and 100 miles per gallon equivalent. There's a 3rd option now: combustion engine / compressed air hybrid http://www.psa-peugeot-citroen.com/en/inside-our-industrial-environment/innovation-and-rd/hybrid-air-an-innovative-full-hybrid-gasoline-system-article There's also a 4th option. Walk?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
