jakee 1,610
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jakee 1,610
QuoteSo are you a troop leader?
No. Why?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
Andy9o8 3
QuoteQuoteIs there an equivalent of the Boy Scouts in the UK?
Indeed, Lord Baden Powell started Boy Scouts in the UK and it was exported to the USA.
Funny you should mention that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Baden_Powell#Sexuality
QuoteEarly discussion of Baden-Powell's sexuality focused on his relationship with his close friend Kenneth McLaren.[47]:217–218[48]:48 Tim Jeal's later biography discusses the relationship and finds that there is no conclusive evidence that this friendship was physical.[7]:82 Jeal then examines Baden-Powell's views on women, his appreciation of the male form, his military relationships, and his marriage, concluding that Baden-Powell might have been a repressed homosexual.[7]:103 Jeal's conclusion is shared by some biographers and disputed by others, but is not yet examined in any detail by other scholars.[49]
Andy9o8 3
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Second, going back again to the civil rights struggle, what if black people in the south just accepted any entity that wanted to discriminate against them? "Hell, I didn't want to sit at that bar anyway". What then?
Stupid to go there. Public vs private. Think real hard.
As an aside, public vs. private can sometimes be a legal grey area in the US. For example, that's the basis upon which private restaurants, hotels, etc. justified their discrimination against blacks during the civil rights fight. Ultimately, legal rulings and new federal statutes came down against them. As an analogy, it's only partly applicable, but it's a general thought to consider: it ain't all black & white. Lotsa grey.
I don't know about this opinion. Sure he was 55 before he got married, but there is no known historical evidence he was anything other than heterosexual. You could use the same facts to assert he was a pedophile. This is complete conjecture.
For the same reason I jump off a perfectly good diving board.
Andy9o8 3
Maybe. 
Or maybe not.
davjohns 1
QuoteQuoteOf course you would. You're one of the you-gotta-live-like-I-say, whining and crying bozos. Pretty much a given. Thanks for the confession.
Meh, you're a southerner. Not too much of a shock that you're supporting bigots.
I was just about to the point that I couldn't see any point in responding to you anymore....then you posted this. I actually laughed out loud. Your statement is bigotted toward Southerners! You don't even see it. Killing me.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..
But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.
But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.
davjohns 1
A few years ago, there was a golf club that didn't have any black members. I'm pretty sure there were unspoken rules or something. The PGA had an issue with having a tournament there. I think Tiger Woods was involved. At the time, like now, I maintained that the organization could do what it wanted. If it wanted to exclude people for whatever reason, so be it.
I have no problem with organizations that want to exclude people. I don't care to join them. That's my call. Knights of Columbus doesn't allow women. I support their right to do as they please. I just don't care to join.
Answer your question? You bring up the race issue purely because it is an emtional issue. It makes no difference to me.
Just for fun...the part of my post that you called a non-sequitur was completely consistent if you read my post. I was responding to Wendy's concern for the raising of children at that point. Please read a little closer.
I have no problem with organizations that want to exclude people. I don't care to join them. That's my call. Knights of Columbus doesn't allow women. I support their right to do as they please. I just don't care to join.
Answer your question? You bring up the race issue purely because it is an emtional issue. It makes no difference to me.
Just for fun...the part of my post that you called a non-sequitur was completely consistent if you read my post. I was responding to Wendy's concern for the raising of children at that point. Please read a little closer.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..
But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.
But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.
DanG 1
QuoteSince gays do not value the motto of the scouts
From distant memory, the Scout Motto is, "A scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent."
There's supposed to be twelve. I can't remember the last one, but I'm pretty sure it's not, "into chicks."
What part of the scout motto do gays universally not value?
- Dan G
jakee 1,610
QuoteI was just about to the point that I couldn't see any point in responding to you anymore....then you posted this. I actually laughed out loud. Your statement is bigotted toward Southerners! You don't even see it. Killing me.
English humour can be very dry. No shame in not picking up on it.
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
Andy9o8 3
QuoteQuoteSince gays do not value the motto of the scouts
From distant memory, the Scout Motto is, "A scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent."
There's supposed to be twelve. I can't remember the last one, but I'm pretty sure it's not, "into chicks."
"Obedient".
QuoteWhat part of the scout motto do gays universally not value?
In a sense, I suppose it's "obedient".
jakee 1,610
QuoteA few years ago, there was a golf club that didn't have any black members. I'm pretty sure there were unspoken rules or something. The PGA had an issue with having a tournament there. I think Tiger Woods was involved. At the time, like now, I maintained that the organization could do what it wanted. If it wanted to exclude people for whatever reason, so be it.
You are still not answering. Did you have a problem with people who criticised their policy, or with any black people who wanted to join?
QuoteAnswer your question? You bring up the race issue purely because it is an emtional issue.
No, I bring it up because it is the same issue, just a few more years down the line in public perception.
QuoteJust for fun...the part of my post that you called a non-sequitur was completely consistent if you read my post. I was responding to Wendy's concern for the raising of children at that point. Please read a little closer.
I know you were responding to what Wendy said, I called it a non-sequitur because a proposed change in who is eligible to participate would not change what the Scouts do or teach, rendering your objection void. I did explain that, so kindly take you own advice and read my posts.
At least you have backed away from this talk of 'forcing' etc. It will be nice if you to consider my actual position on the matter before deciding whether I'm worth debating
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
davjohns 1
QuoteQuoteI was just about to the point that I couldn't see any point in responding to you anymore....then you posted this. I actually laughed out loud. Your statement is bigotted toward Southerners! You don't even see it. Killing me.
English humour can be very dry. No shame in not picking up on it.
OK. You got me on that one. The Brits I work with have a rough time with my humor as well. Crack on.
I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..
But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.
But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.
Almost too easy to mention that there's heavy speculation that Baden Powell himself may have been gay.
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