TX GOP Gov. Rick Perry: "Keep fags out of the Boy Scouts!"

[billvon 3,132]

>Great public relations you got there, folks.

Just wanted to point out that people like Perry, Akin, Santorum etc are NOT STUPID. From Bryan Fischer, spokesman for the right wing American Family Association:
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Why do you let them brand you as the stupid party? Why do you let them do it? Why are you branding us as the stupid party when our ideas are the ideas that work? Don't let them brand you. You're letting them put your brand right on your hide. This is the stupid party. Bobby Jindal says, "Yeah, we're the stupid party. Look at the brand right here on my hide."

Conservative ideas are not stupid. They are wise. They work. They are strategic. Every one of them. Conservatism works every single, solitary time it is tried. We don't have to apologize for a single, solitary conservative idea. 'Cause they're not stupid, and people who advocate them are not stupid. Doesn't mean they may misspeak or don't put things eloquently.

But Todd Akin! I mean, there is such a thing as illegitimate rape. Roe v. Wade! Roe v. Wade was predicated on the false accusation of rape. Norma McCorvey said, "I wasn't raped. I lied about that." We have Roe v. Wade, we've got 55 million dead babies—why? Because a rape that was not a legitimate rape was the basis for that whole case. So was Todd Akin right? Absolutely! There is such a thing as legitimate rape, and there are also cases where a woman claims it's rape, but it wasn't. It was consensual, she changes her mind, she lies about it for some political purpose, like Norma McCorvey did.

So Todd Akin was right! That wasn't stupid. He was right. He was right on the money. He was completely accurate about that. So our ideas are not stupid, and the people who advocate them are not stupid.
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Which reminds me of the Godfather.

Fredo Corleone: "This ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says! Like I'm dumb . . . I'm smart and I want respect!"

[wmw999 2,602]

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Again... Source?

From the Houston Chronicle

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[wmw999 2,602]

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He has great hair

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Is that all it takes?

Thumper's mom told him: "If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all"

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[BIGUN 1,505]

I understand the Governor's position.

However, there is still no direct quote source regarding "fag or queers"

Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/us/rick-perry-opposes-opening-boy-scouts-to-gays.html?_r=0

Because, after all, gay people cannot have traditional American values.

Right there is where you blew your case.
American tradition has never been the gay lifestyle regardless of what standard you apply.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[Andy9o8 3]

Wait!! What about the steers??

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/dec/16/gov-rick-perry-awarded-texas-monthlys-bum-steer/

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35anmk/

I swear, you guys are killin' me here.

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Wait!! What about the steers??

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/dec/16/gov-rick-perry-awarded-texas-monthlys-bum-steer/

I swear, you guys are killin' me here.

Can you point to the part that gives reason to your claim? Nobody sees it yet.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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Wait!! What about the steers??

http://www.reporternews.com/news/2011/dec/16/gov-rick-perry-awarded-texas-monthlys-bum-steer/

I swear, you guys are killin' me here.

Got caught with your pants down again?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[Andy9o8 3]

Nobody understood Noah, either. Saw what happened to them.

k, bedtime.

[jakee 1,610]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/us/rick-perry-opposes-opening-boy-scouts-to-gays.html?_r=0

Because, after all, gay people cannot have traditional American values.

Right there is where you blew your case.
American tradition has never been [acceptance of] the gay lifestyle regardless of what standard you apply.

Does that mean that when anyone refers to traditional American values they are refering to homophobia, racism and stealing from Indians? I don't think those are things conservatives should still be supporting.


And I have to admit (maybe I'm being slow), I still can't figure out how letting gays into the Scouts is going to lead to increased teen pregnancy and incarceration rates.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Does that mean that when anyone refers to traditional American values they are refering to homophobia, racism and stealing from Indians? I don't think those are things conservatives should still be supporting.

Would you like cream with your cherries?

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And I have to admit (maybe I'm being slow), I still can't figure out how letting gays into the Scouts is going to lead to increased teen pregnancy and incarceration rates.

Kinda out in left field, eh?
Oh wait....Kinda out of Long On, eh?

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[davjohns 1]

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That's why the War of Southern Emasculation was fought.

Why do you refuse to use it's proper name? The War of Northern Agression is very serious to some of us.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[davjohns 1]

Sometimes, I think Shah got ahold of Andy's login and is screwing with us.

But on point...what does it matter if they are gay? As long as they are not teaching sexuality in the Boy Scouts, I'm not sure it's a problem. I think the biggest problem is confusing homosexual with sexual deviant or pedophile. Now, there is statistical evidence that gay men are promiscuous. Let's face it, they are men without the inhibitor of having to convince a woman to go along. The other party is just as motivated. But, the jump to pedophilia is a different story as far as I can tell. Based on historical evidence, I would have to say you would protect the boys better by banning priests from the Boy Scouts. No offense, if you are Catholic. Just the evidence before me.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[jakee 1,610]

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Would you like cream with your cherries?

Not even google can help me decifer that one.

So... wuh?

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And I have to admit (maybe I'm being slow), I still can't figure out how letting gays into the Scouts is going to lead to increased teen pregnancy and incarceration rates.

Yep, that's what I thought when I read Perry's 'reasoning' too.

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Oh wait....Kinda out of Long On, eh?

Take another (or just 'a'?) look at the article from the first post. Crowding the batsman at short leg, old boy.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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But on point...what does it matter if they are gay? As long as they are not teaching sexuality in the Boy Scouts, I'm not sure it's a problem.

Bingo. I don't think the gay community sees quite that way.

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I think the biggest problem is confusing homosexual with sexual deviant or pedophile.

It's apparent to me that the gay community cannot deal with the idea that sexual deviant behavior or pedophilia comes in homosexual packages, too. Gay leaders in Scouting is not going to reduce any of that.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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Would you like cream with your cherries?

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Not even google can help me decifer that one.

Reference to cherry picking

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Oh wait....Kinda out of Long On, eh?

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Take another (or just 'a'?) look at the article from the first post. Crowding the batsman at short leg, old boy.

"Left Field", from baseball, equates to Long On (right handed batter), Long Off (leftie)

Don't worry. It's an American idiom.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

[jakee 1,610]

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It's apparent to me that the gay community cannot deal with the idea that sexual deviant behavior or pedophilia comes in homosexual packages, too. Gay leaders in Scouting is not going to reduce any of that.

The key word in your statement is 'too'. Meaning 'as well as'. Meaning, in this context 'as well as in heterosexual packages'.

So why is it not ok to risk having homosexual Scout leaders because they might be pedophiles when it is OK to have heterosexual Scout leaders even though they might be pedophiles?

You say that Gay Scout leaders will not reduce pedophilia within the organisation. Why would homosexuals need to be less likely to be pedophiles than heterosexuals in order to be allowed the same position of responsibility over children?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[wmw999 2,602]

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I think the biggest problem is confusing homosexual with sexual deviant or pedophile

After all, they all look alike.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[davjohns 1]

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I think the biggest problem is confusing homosexual with sexual deviant or pedophile

After all, they all look alike.

Wendy P.

Excellent use of the sarcasm font, but only something Wendy can pull off.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[jakee 1,610]

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Reference to cherry picking

Now that was kinda my point, wasn't it? You are cherry picking individual aspects of earlier American behaviour and ignoring wider values. By looking at individual things that were absolutely fine and dandy back in the day you could build up a list of traditional 'values' that are now considered pretty reprehensible. But that would be the wrong way of looking at it.

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"Left Field", from baseball, equates to Long On (right handed batter), Long Off (leftie)

Yeah, and short leg would be something like Short Stop. I'm recognising your idiom and turning it back around on you on the assumption that you'd have enough cultural knowledge to follow along. Sorry for overestimating you.

So to ditch the sports metaphors and just spell it out - what you say was 'left field' is actually referencing what Rick Perry is quoted as saying in the article that was linked in the first post of the thread. So it's pretty much part of the core of the discussion.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[davjohns 1]

So...just for fun....how are we disposed toward lesbian Den Mothers?

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[wmw999 2,602]

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So...just for fun....how are we disposed toward lesbian Den Mothers?

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[davjohns 1]

I'll take that as one vote in favor.

I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet..

But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

[rushmc 23]

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Would you like cream with your cherries?

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Not even google can help me decifer that one.

Reference to cherry picking

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Oh wait....Kinda out of Long On, eh?

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Take another (or just 'a'?) look at the article from the first post. Crowding the batsman at short leg, old boy.

"Left Field", from baseball, equates to Long On (right handed batter), Long Off (leftie)

Don't worry. It's an American idiom.

As I have looked through this thread it seems Andy is building his resume.

He may well be applying at NBC as a tape editor

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Andy9o8 3]

I'll take that as a letter of recommendation for my file. Thanks.