Tell me again how being armed will save you from a mentally unstable person with a gun?

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Why the hell do you care what tools I chose?
I'm not telling you what batteries you can have.

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>Go to the School board and ask for armed protection

Great idea. If it sells just one gun, all the scaremongering will be worth it.

STILL don't get it? Well, you are not ignorant so it must be intentional stupidity that makes you cling to that BS.

Yes, Bill, it's ALL about gun sales. Kill kids, use kids for political videos, scream and cry for piling on meaningless laws...all for the sake of increasing gun sales.
Right. Got it.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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>Why do you hate children?

I don't - that's why I want to ban all spoons. They can kill people, you know.

Where's your bill, Bill?

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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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How about the footage of the female resource officer preventing the gunman from proceeding further into the school, that took place a couple of years ago?
Do you think she could have stopped him without her hand gun pointing at him?
Without her gun,that guy could have got past her with no resistance at all.
Instead she chased him out to the waiting police who killed the piece of shit.

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Why the hell do you care what tools I chose?
I'm not telling you what batteries you can have.

For the same reason the government does, in fact, regulate some battery usage; the cost benefit ratio to society isn't worth it. Prime example was the recent exception made for B-787s. Turns out the regulation was there for a good reason. It's not really all that safe for planes to burst into flames while airborne.

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There are many private schools like the ones where the Obama girls attend school that use armed gaurds.
Now I know alot of people will say that this is because they are the children of politicians,the wealthy,ect,and because of their parents positions or wealth they are at greater risk of being attacked,but it seems that the poor kids in the public schools are the ones who are getting abducted,molested,and shot.

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So why not give public schools armed guards and better security,

You answered you own question:
"they are the children of politicians,the wealthy,ect,"

and

"and because of their parents positions or wealth they are at greater risk of being attacked...."

Here's where likelihood comes into play for the socio-economic classes. When the likelihood falls on the "uppers" it's protect, protect, protect. But when it's on the other side, it's "You people are full of shit. What a stupid idea!"

You see it all around you...OMG! Even in SC!

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Ban what ever your little pea size brain wants... IT WILL NOT CHANGE A THING.... DO YOU ASSHATS UNDERSTAND..

You, too, answered you own question:
Reference "pea-sized brain and "asshats".

No, they don't get it and you've pointed out two of the most obvious reasons why they'll never get it.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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I think the problem here is too many liberal moderators who might stay out of conversation they know little about.

There was no run on guns until OBama got elected. Now that he's been elected a second time, in combination with a disaster, and proposed bans, and restrictions on guns, there is a run on guns. Pointing fingers about who is to blame for the run on guns is pointless eventhough mainly it's the prospect of a ban that causing people to hoard guns.

Facts are AMERICA's RIGHTS ARE BEING EROADED.

That's a fact. That's a fact we all can agree on. The less rights we have and the more taxes we have will put us right back to the 1700's where we were dominated by a tyrant who taxed us, and restricted our rights.

That is a fact.

You have the right to free speech so it's not for me to tell you to keep your mouth shut. Coorespondingly, I have the right to own a gun and until that right is gone, you don't need to tell me what gun I should have.

Guys, it makes no sense to talk to the anti gun as they simply don't understand. This conversation go Waaaaay beyond a 30 roiund mag AND A SCARY LOOKING GUN.

I HAS TO DO WITH FREEDOM.

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And hey, what about TK? If ever there was a seditious enemy of the state, there's one.

Good point.

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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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>Then why are there armed guards at many private schools including the
>school attended by President Obama's children?

I suspect because the parents/administrators at that school think the advantages overcome the risks.

The risks are worth it when you are talking about MY kids but are not worth it at all when talking about YOURS.

My kid is better than your kid. Got it.

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>I know personaly three policemen who have shot themselves from accidental
>discharge,does this mean we should do away with cops having guns?

Do away with STUPID cops having guns, yes.

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Nope.

But it would surely be stupid to claim that the solution to cops accidentally shooting themselves is to give them more guns.

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If the run on guns tell you anything, anything at all, it's about the prospects of the loss of rights, not gaining any rights.

For your information there are more people buying guns who never thought about owning a gun before now, due to thinking their rights to buy a gun will become severely compromized.

You never think about the rights you do have until they're threatened to be taken from you.

Just because you don't need the right doesn't mean everyone else doesn't need it.

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If the difference between life and death in your living room is an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine and a 1911 .45 with a 7 round magazine you might want to consider moving to a safer neighborhood.

Unfucking believable. You've outdone yourself.
*shaking head*

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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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If the run on guns tell you anything, anything at all, it's about the prospects of the loss of rights, not gaining any rights.

It tells me that fear, even one that is unfounded, sells.

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If the difference between life and death in your living room is an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine and a 1911 .45 with a 7 round magazine you might want to consider moving to a safer neighborhood.

Unfucking believable. You've outdone yourself.
*shaking head*

And the anti gun really thinks we use guns to defend our home. We use locks and security systems. We have dogs. We have neighborhood watch and we have katana swords as I much prefer to behead an intruder wiith fine steel than use a stupid AR on a guy.

But the anti gun want the cops to show up with their guns as they are so inept to defending themselves and their property they let the front door wide open. No wonder THEIR neighborhood is a wreck.

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If the run on guns tell you anything, anything at all, it's about the prospects of the loss of rights, not gaining any rights.

Have you read anything I've ever posted that said anything other than that?

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For your information there are more people buying guns who never thought about owning a gun before now, due to thinking their rights to buy a gun will become severely compromized.

Same question.

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You never think about the rights you do have until they're threatened to be taken from you.

which is sad because the bozos that want to take your rights away think about them constantly...almost to the exclusion of everything else. Reasoning is the first thing to go for them.

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If the run on guns tell you anything, anything at all, it's about the prospects of the loss of rights, not gaining any rights.

Have you read anything I've ever posted that said anything other than that?

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For your information there are more people buying guns who never thought about owning a gun before now, due to thinking their rights to buy a gun will become severely compromized.

Same question.

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You never think about the rights you do have until they're threatened to be taken from you.

which is sad because the bozos that want to take your rights away think about them constantly...almost to the exclusion of everything else. Reasoning is the first thing to go for them.

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>Then why do some people want to take away my right to do just that?

Because there is a balance between the benefit you gain and the risk that that right poses to others.

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>Then why do some people want to take away my right to do just that?

Because there is a balance between the benefit you gain and the risk that that right poses to others.

The risks of an unarmed public could be more than the deaths of hundreds, perhaps millions of kids and their parents. And history has show this to be true.

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The risks of an unarmed public could be more than the deaths of hundreds, perhaps millions of kids and their parents. And history has show this to be true.

Nobody is proposing you be unarmed.

NOBODY.

Why do you insist on saying something that is absolutely NOT what is being proposed?

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The risks of an unarmed public could be more than the deaths of hundreds, perhaps millions of kids and their parents. And history has show this to be true.

Nobody is proposing you be unarmed.

NOBODY.

Why do you insist on saying something that is absolutely NOT what is being proposed?

But you are being specific in telling me what type of gun I must be armed with. What is the difference. If I think I want to keep an AR and you're trying to ban an AR then you are banning my right to keep THAT MAKE AND MODEL. And I don't like that and neither do 5 million AR owners.

You do realize our fathers died carrying the AR fighting for your freedom that I should be able to keep an AR to remember him.

Who are you. Do I tell you what parachute you need jump with. You do not have an argument.

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>Then why do some people want to take away my right to do just that?

Because there is a balance between the benefit you gain and the risk that that right poses to others.

Just so it's YOU that gets killed and not me. That's all the protection I need. That's a good balance, Yeah, it is. No, really!

or,

I don't want to have the means to protect myself so you shouldn't have the means either...regardless of some old stupid paper from over 200 years go.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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You do realize our fathers died carrying the AR fighting for your freedom that I should be able to keep an AR to remember him.

Mine carried an M1. Seemed pretty effective. Actually won a war with it.

Of course, that's neither here nor there. Your argument is bullshit. Nobody is proposing to take away your daddy's gun. Even though it's clearly NOT his gun he would have actually taken into war, since, well, you're talking about an AR-15.

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Nobody is proposing you be unarmed.

NOBODY.

Why do you insist on saying something that is absolutely NOT what is being proposed?

You are correct.

I'll be able to arm myself with:
- pea shooters, single shot only
- rubber band guns, 6 bands or less
- slingshots, for now anyway....

I know I'm good to go because you promised you would let us keep those.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Mine carried an M1. Seemed pretty effective. Actually won a war with it.

Mine didn't have to carry a weapon. The proof is that he survived the war with all his body parts and had no holes in them.

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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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Mine carried an M1. Seemed pretty effective. Actually won a war with it.

Mine didn't have to carry a weapon. The proof is that he survived the war with all his body parts and had no holes in them.

Mine survived, but had some holes to show for it. I wish I could have talked to him more about it but he left this earth about 50 years ago.

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