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Of course the instrument would't equal the net of the debt. Why would anyone buy debt instrumnet at face value of the debt dollar for dollar? I see you're not getting this.

You missed my point which means you doot even understand the argument you are trying to make. Very little student loan debt is securitized into a debt instuments. Unlike the mortgage debt where a large amount was securitized. its been established you are clueless on this topic but now I'm doubting your reading comprehension. My point was not at all complicated.

You made a point: you said debt instruments are not dollar to dollar. I don't think you have a clue how much college debt is turned into securities. According to jet blues balance sheet they own a half billion in college debt securities and they are only one firm. When you profess to know a lot about money, you never support what you say with facts. You generalize.
Even to the point that college tuition debt is not a problem. If it's not a problem then tell us why: for readers edification.

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Of course the instrument would't equal the net of the debt. Why would anyone buy debt instrumnet at face value of the debt dollar for dollar? I see you're not getting this.

You missed my point which means you doot even understand the argument you are trying to make. Very little student loan debt is securitized into a debt instuments. Unlike the mortgage debt where a large amount was securitized. its been established you are clueless on this topic but now I'm doubting your reading comprehension. My point was not at all complicated.

You made a point: you said debt instruments are not dollar to dollar. I don't think you have a clue how much college debt is turned into securities. According to jet blues balance sheet they own a half billion in college debt securities and they are only one firm. When you profess to know a lot about money, you never support what you say with facts. You generalize.
Even to the point that college tuition debt is not a problem. If it's not a problem then tell us why: for readers edification.

i told you in my previous post why that is my opinion. please reread them. it is quite clear.

Your Jetblue comment is truly amazing. i would love to read their financials. i admit, i am not at work and do not have my Bloomberg thumb thingy with me, therefore, i do not have access to financials. i did look online and their total debt doesnt seem to make your comment possible. i could be wrong since im not looking at an actual spreadsheet.

Please post their current 10Q so i can verify your comment, since you claim to have it. also, save me some time and please tell me what page they break out their debt to show the portion of student loans securities. I had no idea that they would actually break out their investment positions. I would be very interested to read that.

Thank you for sharing. I am not at all suspect you just made that up.

(i edited my comment to reflect the fact i have no confidence on my online numbers.)

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Of course the instrument would't equal the net of the debt. Why would anyone buy debt instrumnet at face value of the debt dollar for dollar? I see you're not getting this.

You missed my point which means you doot even understand the argument you are trying to make. Very little student loan debt is securitized into a debt instuments. Unlike the mortgage debt where a large amount was securitized. its been established you are clueless on this topic but now I'm doubting your reading comprehension. My point was not at all complicated.

You made a point: you said debt instruments are not dollar to dollar. I don't think you have a clue how much college debt is turned into securities. According to jet blues balance sheet they own a half billion in college debt securities and they are only one firm. When you profess to know a lot about money, you never support what you say with facts. You generalize.
Even to the point that college tuition debt is not a problem. If it's not a problem then tell us why: for readers edification.

i told you in my previous post why that is my opinion. please reread them. it is quite clear.

Your Jetblue comment is truly amazing. i would love to read their financials. i admit, i am not at work and do not have my Bloomberg thumb thingy with me, therefore, i do not have access to financials. i did look online and their total debt doesnt seem to make your comment possible. i could be wrong since im not looking at an actual spreadsheet.

Please post their current 10Q so i can verify your comment, since you claim to have it. also, save me some time and please tell me what page they break out their debt to show the portion of student loans securities. I had no idea that they would actually break out their investment positions. I would be very interested to read that.

Thank you for sharing. I am not at all suspect you just made that up.

(i edited my comment to reflect the fact i have no confidence on my online numbers.)

Go look it up for yourself. You know little about balance sheet reporting.

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>Go look it up for yourself. You know little about balance sheet reporting.


Did you not realize that i could do that the moment i got to work? I have a Bloomberg terminal, it takes me all of 5 seconds to type "jblu-equity-go"

So i am not an analyst but can read. i checked their latest 8-k filed on 29 Jan. I saw nothing. i then checked their latest 10Q filed on 1 Nov 12 and found nothing. I did not expect too because you have told bold face lies before. for example, you claim your friends at the justice dept give you info and you know bankers who fled to brazil. All fiction just like your "ad men" and "front end paper". You are sad.

I also didnt expect to because i have never heard of companies giving out positions before. they mention size and scope of debt but not the exact instruments held. not to mention why would an airline with easy access to credit own a long term retail debt instrument. of course it made no sense but you never do.

I could be wrong. please produce the public filing where they disclose this. i would be shocked to find it since they disclose that they do not own any derivatives other than fuel related. as stated on Note 8 paragraph 2 and 3. 10Q filing 11/1/12.

To manage the variability of the cash flows associated with our variable rate debt, we have also entered into interest rate swaps. We do not hold or issue any derivative financial instruments for trading purposes.

you have made a claim. i am asking you to prove it. If you cannot verify said claim then i can only assume you are once again lying.

(i edited to add the date of the 10Q)

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>Go look it up for yourself. You know little about balance sheet reporting.


Did you not realize that i could do that the moment i got to work? I have a Bloomberg terminal, it takes me all of 5 seconds to type "jblu-equity-go"

So i am not an analyst but can read. i checked their latest 8-k filed on 29 Jan. I saw nothing. i then checked their latest 10Q filed on 1 Nov 12 and found nothing. I did not expect too because you have told bold face lies before. for example, you claim your friends at the justice dept give you info and you know bankers who fled to brazil. All fiction just like your "ad men" and "front end paper". You are sad.

I also didnt expect to because i have never heard of companies giving out positions before. they mention size and scope of debt but not the exact instruments held. not to mention why would an airline with easy access to credit own a long term retail debt instrument. of course it made no sense but you never do.

I could be wrong. please produce the public filing where they disclose this. i would be shocked to find it since they disclose that they do not own any derivatives other than fuel related. as stated on Note 8 paragraph 2 and 3. 10Q filing 11/1/12.

To manage the variability of the cash flows associated with our variable rate debt, we have also entered into interest rate swaps. We do not hold or issue any derivative financial instruments for trading purposes.

you have made a claim. i am asking you to prove it. If you cannot verify said claim then i can only assume you are once again lying.

(i edited to add the date of the 10Q)

You need to call UBS and jetblue and ask about their investment in debt securities.

There's so much faith with the banking industry states are considering issuing their own money.

Bankster hiding out behind their reports and numbers. If it's not on your bank computer its not the truth....

Go away.

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>Go look it up for yourself. You know little about balance sheet reporting.


Did you not realize that i could do that the moment i got to work? I have a Bloomberg terminal, it takes me all of 5 seconds to type "jblu-equity-go"

So i am not an analyst but can read. i checked their latest 8-k filed on 29 Jan. I saw nothing. i then checked their latest 10Q filed on 1 Nov 12 and found nothing. I did not expect too because you have told bold face lies before. for example, you claim your friends at the justice dept give you info and you know bankers who fled to brazil. All fiction just like your "ad men" and "front end paper". You are sad.

I also didnt expect to because i have never heard of companies giving out positions before. they mention size and scope of debt but not the exact instruments held. not to mention why would an airline with easy access to credit own a long term retail debt instrument. of course it made no sense but you never do.

I could be wrong. please produce the public filing where they disclose this. i would be shocked to find it since they disclose that they do not own any derivatives other than fuel related. as stated on Note 8 paragraph 2 and 3. 10Q filing 11/1/12.

To manage the variability of the cash flows associated with our variable rate debt, we have also entered into interest rate swaps. We do not hold or issue any derivative financial instruments for trading purposes.

you have made a claim. i am asking you to prove it. If you cannot verify said claim then i can only assume you are once again lying.

(i edited to add the date of the 10Q)

You need to call UBS and jetblue and ask about their investment in debt securities.

There's so much faith with the banking industry states are considering issuing their own money.

Bankster hiding out behind their reports and numbers. If it's not on your bank computer its not the truth....

Go away.

i looked on the SEC filings. The public filings that are real and tangible. You are a liar, plain and simple.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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Weekender, if you know all the answers on a balance sheet then why are you advocating gaining a mandate forcing better balance sheet reporting including defining terms.
Until you know what: "investment in debt securities" mean you don't have a clue what intruments are held and have no right to call any one a lair. You don't know yourself what it means. Here's proof of what you propose. Like we don't read your other posts in other threads.... including: banks shouldn't be charged with fraud, when they commit fraud. Unbelievable.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4438767;page=unread#unread

Like I said:

GO AWAY

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You've made a number of statements that require information to evaluate them. You refuse to provide any such information, in the form of references or links to sites with actual data (rather than just opinions).

NASA's mission control had a motto: "In God we trust, all others bring data."

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There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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You've made a number of statements that require information to evaluate them. You refuse to provide any such information, in the form of references or links to sites with actual data (rather than just opinions).

NASA's mission control had a motto: "In God we trust, all others bring data."

Wendy P.

I agree:
One's with data at hand refuses to define terms on the balance sheet and instruments held. Until that is done, the converation is at a standstill.

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument.
Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs.

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument.
Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs.

oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake.

I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
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Weekender, if you know all the answers on a balance sheet then why are you advocating gaining a mandate forcing better balance sheet reporting including defining terms.
Until you know what: "investment in debt securities" mean you don't have a clue what intruments are held and have no right to call any one a lair. You don't know yourself what it means. Here's proof of what you propose. Like we don't read your other posts in other threads.... including: banks shouldn't be charged with fraud, when they commit fraud. Unbelievable.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4438767;page=unread#unread

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GO AWAY

One is a equity security and one is a fixed income security, which is considered an exempt security. One is mandated to file the other is not. My point is maybe both should be. you did not get that because you are clueless on basic finance, proven again by the fact you do not know the difference.

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument.
Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs.

oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake.

I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir.

It could be that as sensitive as anything to do with making money off of college kids and their parents as "College Debt Secuities" what was once on a balance sheet now has been conveniently hidden.
Let's face, what better way to sell MORE College Debt Securities at the time they were introduced than to publish: so and so bought a ton of secuities so maybe you should too Mr. Corporation.
I think you don't have a clue.
Why do you think they want to bring illegals in the fold and give them all college educations. Goldman was at the White House yesterday talking about immigration. They want them money.

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Of course the instrument would't equal the net of the debt. Why would anyone buy debt instrumnet at face value of the debt dollar for dollar? I see you're not getting this.

You missed my point which means you doot even understand the argument you are trying to make. Very little student loan debt is securitized into a debt instuments. Unlike the mortgage debt where a large amount was securitized. its been established you are clueless on this topic but now I'm doubting your reading comprehension. My point was not at all complicated.

I'm not debating financial terms. That's something you introduced. I'm debating the silent takeover of this country by hook and crook.

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument.
Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs.

oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake.

I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir.

It could be that as sensitive as anything to do with making money off of college kids and their parents as "College Debt Secuities" what was once on a balance sheet now has been conveniently hidden.
Let's face, what better way to sell MORE College Debt Securities at the time they were introduced than to publish: so and so bought a ton of secuities so maybe you should too Mr. Corporation.
I think you don't have a clue.
Why do you think they want to bring illegals in the fold and give them all college educations. Goldman was at the White House yesterday talking about immigration. They want them money.

thank you, now i fully understand. the holdings are evidenced by the LACK of evidence of the holdings. they are not disclosed on the SEC filings and that is the proof that they have been hidden. since they are hidden, as proven by their non existence on the public filings, they are proven to exist.

again, you have bested me.

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument.
Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs.

oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake.

I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir.

It could be that as sensitive as anything to do with making money off of college kids and their parents as "College Debt Secuities" what was once on a balance sheet now has been conveniently hidden.
Let's face, what better way to sell MORE College Debt Securities at the time they were introduced than to publish: so and so bought a ton of secuities so maybe you should too Mr. Corporation.
I think you don't have a clue.
Why do you think they want to bring illegals in the fold and give them all college educations. Goldman was at the White House yesterday talking about immigration. They want them money.

thank you, now i fully understand. the holdings are evidenced by the LACK of evidence of the holdings. they are not disclosed on the SEC filings and that is the proof that they have been hidden. since they are hidden, as proven by their non existence on the public filings, they are proven to exist.

again, you have bested me.

Well investment in "debt securities" sound much better than COLLEGE debt securities don't you think. The WORD "college" mysteriously left off the balance sheet.

Now go back to counting all your money, I've got work to do.

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument.
Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs.

oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake.

I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir.

It could be that as sensitive as anything to do with making money off of college kids and their parents as "College Debt Secuities" what was once on a balance sheet now has been conveniently hidden.
Let's face, what better way to sell MORE College Debt Securities at the time they were introduced than to publish: so and so bought a ton of secuities so maybe you should too Mr. Corporation.
I think you don't have a clue.
Why do you think they want to bring illegals in the fold and give them all college educations. Goldman was at the White House yesterday talking about immigration. They want them money.

thank you, now i fully understand. the holdings are evidenced by the LACK of evidence of the holdings. they are not disclosed on the SEC filings and that is the proof that they have been hidden. since they are hidden, as proven by their non existence on the public filings, they are proven to exist.

again, you have bested me.

Well investment in "debt securities" sound much better than COLLEGE debt securities don't you think. The WORD "college" mysteriously left off the balance sheet.

Now go back to counting all your money, I've got work to do.

yes that explains it. they left the word college off the balance sheet therefore exposing the evidence that they are in fact long college debt.

by that logic they are also long reindeer debt securities, as a hedge against any reindeer strike loses during the holiday season on their aircraft. the word "reindeer" is not on the balance sheet so obviously they have hidden the "reindeer debt" behind the line "debt securities".

those crafty bastards. i envy them almost as i do you for your business acumen and insider knowledge. its just a matter of time before they retire to Brazil to hang out with the former "admen" who got rich pushing "front end paper."

once again, you have bested me.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

I read it while drafting a paper in college. It was years ago. Not sure the status of any investments they have now. It's not until the balance sheet term is defined by the type of instrument.
Large financial institutions and wall street brokers bundled these loans and sold them to corporations as they were/ are good bets. I suspect Jb bought them to hedge against the debt they acquired in financing their aircraft fleet. Jb hedges on jet fuel. So someone owns them. The point still is: it doesn't matter who owns them, it's about the speculation surrounding a possible collapse when tuition costs no longer go up as quickly as they are going up now--the debt won't be as valuable. Which is why there is so much pressure to keep raising tuition costs.

oh, i see. the evidence to your claim that it is on JBLU's financials are not actually on JBLU's filings. They are not on the only official record of JBLU"s financials. they only exist in a different time on a paper you wrote. Thank you for clearing that up. i should have checked your term paper and not that companies actual SEC filings. my mistake.

I owe you an apology. you didnt just make that up as evidence by your term paper from whenever, with data from whatever. silly me for expecting it to actually be on verifiable, tangible financial statements that are mandated by law. You have bested me sir.

It could be that as sensitive as anything to do with making money off of college kids and their parents as "College Debt Secuities" what was once on a balance sheet now has been conveniently hidden.
Let's face, what better way to sell MORE College Debt Securities at the time they were introduced than to publish: so and so bought a ton of secuities so maybe you should too Mr. Corporation.
I think you don't have a clue.
Why do you think they want to bring illegals in the fold and give them all college educations. Goldman was at the White House yesterday talking about immigration. They want them money.

thank you, now i fully understand. the holdings are evidenced by the LACK of evidence of the holdings. they are not disclosed on the SEC filings and that is the proof that they have been hidden. since they are hidden, as proven by their non existence on the public filings, they are proven to exist.

again, you have bested me.

Well investment in "debt securities" sound much better than COLLEGE debt securities don't you think. The WORD "college" mysteriously left off the balance sheet.

Now go back to counting all your money, I've got work to do.

yes that explains it. they left the word college off the balance sheet therefore exposing the evidence that they are in fact long college debt.

by that logic they are also long reindeer debt securities, as a hedge against any reindeer strike loses during the holiday season on their aircraft. the word "reindeer" is not on the balance sheet so obviously they have hidden the "reindeer debt" behind the line "debt securities".

those crafty bastards. i envy them almost as i do you for your business acumen and insider knowledge. its just a matter of time before they retire to Brazil to hang out with the former "admen" who got rich pushing "front end paper."

once again, you have bested me.

You beat me to it what the instruments might consist of. Since no one knows for sure, including you, the debt could be intruments of: bull sperm loans, prostitute brothel debentures or even cocaine IOU's.

Now everone knows you've been left behind at the bank counting money and shuffling papers around and coming up with goofy financial terms to confuse the public, and didn't get a chance to cash in on all the bone(ass) money from all the ponzi's you were running that you could have gone to Brazil to open a coffiee shop or another invertment house as GS said Brazil and India are RIPE, as your peers got away with, that you're just a tad jealous you are still sitting there. Go complain to your floor manager... or do what your peers do. Come up with some papers and go sell them. You'll find your way...

Ta ta.

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"You beat me to it what the instruments might consist of. Since no one knows for sure, including you, the debt could be intruments of: bull sperm loans, prostitute brothel debentures or even cocaine IOU's.

Now everone knows you've been left behind at the bank counting money and shuffling papers around and coming up with goofy financial terms to confuse the public, and didn't get a chance to cash in on all the bone(ass) money from all the ponzi's you were running that you could have gone to Brazil to open a coffiee shop or another invertment house as GS said Brazil and India are RIPE, as your peers got away with, that you're just a tad jealous you are still sitting there. Go complain to your floor manager... or do what your peers do. Come up with some papers and go sell them. You'll find your way... "



I do know what they consist of. It says so on the 10Q i quoted earlier. i also know what they do NOT consist of, which i also quoted from the 10Q earlier.

How do you know i am not the trading room manager? after all, i sure do have a lot of time during market hours to point out how clueless you are.

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
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"You beat me to it what the instruments might consist of. Since no one knows for sure, including you, the debt could be intruments of: bull sperm loans, prostitute brothel debentures or even cocaine IOU's.

Now everone knows you've been left behind at the bank counting money and shuffling papers around and coming up with goofy financial terms to confuse the public, and didn't get a chance to cash in on all the bone(ass) money from all the ponzi's you were running that you could have gone to Brazil to open a coffiee shop or another invertment house as GS said Brazil and India are RIPE, as your peers got away with, that you're just a tad jealous you are still sitting there. Go complain to your floor manager... or do what your peers do. Come up with some papers and go sell them. You'll find your way... "



I do know what they consist of. It says so on the 10Q i quoted earlier. i also know what they do NOT consist of, which i also quoted from the 10Q earlier.

How do you know i am not the trading room manager? after all, i sure do have a lot of time during market hours to point out how clueless you are.

Like there is even a trading floor anymore. Every now and then the show a couple of guys walking around some computers trying to show its not computerized trading but they'll never be able to capture that live trading floor setting again. BUY SELL BUY SELL
Of couse you don't know what they consist of. That's what I'm talking about it. Know one knows.

Keep up the good work sweeping up the floor from all those spent order forms

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"You beat me to it what the instruments might consist of. Since no one knows for sure, including you, the debt could be intruments of: bull sperm loans, prostitute brothel debentures or even cocaine IOU's.

Now everone knows you've been left behind at the bank counting money and shuffling papers around and coming up with goofy financial terms to confuse the public, and didn't get a chance to cash in on all the bone(ass) money from all the ponzi's you were running that you could have gone to Brazil to open a coffiee shop or another invertment house as GS said Brazil and India are RIPE, as your peers got away with, that you're just a tad jealous you are still sitting there. Go complain to your floor manager... or do what your peers do. Come up with some papers and go sell them. You'll find your way... "



I do know what they consist of. It says so on the 10Q i quoted earlier. i also know what they do NOT consist of, which i also quoted from the 10Q earlier.

How do you know i am not the trading room manager? after all, i sure do have a lot of time during market hours to point out how clueless you are.

Like there is even a trading floor anymore. Every now and then the show a couple of guys walking around some computers trying to show its not computerized trading but they'll never be able to capture that live trading floor setting again. BUY SELL BUY SELL
Of couse you don't know what they consist of. That's what I'm talking about it. Know one knows.

Keep up the good work sweeping up the floor from all those spent order forms

i didnt say the floor of the exchange. i work "upstairs". each bank has a trading floor and large ones have multiple. you dont know that because you are clueless about finance. as proven each and every time you post.

(i edited to add the quotes around the word, upstairs. it occurred to me he is so clueless that his next post would be something about how the exchange doesnt have an upstairs. or something equally as clueless.)

"The point is, I'm weird, but I never felt weird."
John Frusciante

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iT'S ALMOST MANNA FROM HEAVEN
Here I started a Silent Coup d'etat thread alleging the financial guys are taking over the country and who shows up. A banker! Great.

That fact that your bank even has a trading floor is the problem. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act that allowed banks to become traders WAS the reason for the financial crisis that YOU and YOUR KIND caused. You took advantage. Now since you are "UPSTAIRS" why don't you look out your window at all the peons, marsk, or mullets or whatever you and your peers call the targeted market and think about how you can further take advantage of investors. Ready to rip us off with terms, equasions that only point to: YOU'LL MAKE A FORTUNE.

Now that we're on to you, as you fret to establish some creditability, which isn't working too good, you're not getting any more attention.

Goodbye

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iT'S ALMOST MANNA FROM HEAVEN
Here I started a Silent Coup d'etat thread alleging the financial guys are taking over the country and who shows up. A banker! Great.

That fact that your bank even has a trading floor is the problem. The repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act that allowed banks to become traders WAS the reason for the financial crisis that YOU and YOUR KIND caused. You took advantage. Now since you are "UPSTAIRS" why don't you look out your window at all the peons, marsk, or mullets or whatever you and your peers call the targeted market and think about how you can further take advantage of investors. Ready to rip us off with terms, equasions that only point to: YOU'LL MAKE A FORTUNE.

Now that we're on to you, as you fret to establish some creditability, which isn't working too good, you're not getting any more attention.

Goodbye

ONCHUTE - weekender totally owned you in this thread, as is plain for everyone to see.

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You said that JetBlue invested heavily in securitized college loans. He said he couldn't find any evidence of that in the material that he can access, and asked you to back up your assertion with data.

Wendy P.

Wendy,

Here it is. Pre SLAB labeled as Student Loan Bonds
JetBlue 10K 2005 pg. 68

And as I said, since college back securities became subject to scrutney upon the financial crisis starting in 2007, SLAB term has changed to "debt securities"

Looks like weekender got a new handle...OWNED


http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/JetBlue_Airways_(JBLU)/Filing/10-K/2005/Form_10-K%2FA/D230271