kelpdiver 2 #26 February 1, 2013 QuoteIs northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. hasn't been in the forefront in recent years. But the interesting part is the way San Francisco embraces the conversation, presuming that Northern California (Redding, Eureka, etc) would actually invite them along. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #27 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #28 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. We don't necessarily like being lumped in with you lower life forms.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #29 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. We don't necessarily like being lumped in with you lower life forms. I'm pretty sure sharks pre-dated homo sapiens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #30 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. We don't necessarily like being lumped in with you lower life forms. I'm pretty sure sharks pre-dated homo sapiens. Yep but they never evolved"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #31 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. We don't necessarily like being lumped in with you lower life forms. I'm pretty sure sharks pre-dated homo sapiens. Yep but they never evolved We don't need evolution. We have professional courtesy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #32 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. We don't necessarily like being lumped in with you lower life forms. I'm pretty sure sharks pre-dated homo sapiens. The Ultimate TEXAS Joke Once upon a time in the Kingdom of Heaven, God went missing for six days. Eventually, Michael the archangel found him, resting on the seventh day. He inquired of God, "Where have you been?" God sighed a deep sigh of satisfaction and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look Michael, look what I've made." Archangel Michael looked puzzled and said, "What is it?" "It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put Life on it. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a great place of balance." "Balance?", inquired Michael, still confused. God explained, pointing to different parts of earth, "For example, Northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth while Southern Europe is going to be poor; the Middle East over there will be a hot spot. Over there I've placed a continent of white people and over there is a Continent of black people," God continued, pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot while this one will be very cold and covered in ice." The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a large land mass and said, "What's that one?" "Ah," said God. "That's Texas, the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful lakes, rivers, streams and mountains. The people from Texas are going to be modest, intelligent and humorous and they are going to be found traveling the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking and high achieving, and they will be known throughout the world as diplomats and carriers of peace." Michael gasped in wonder and admiration but then proclaimed, "what About balance, God?" "You said there would be balance!" God replied wisely, "Wait until you see the stupid people I'm putting next to them in Oklahoma and Arkansas.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. We don't necessarily like being lumped in with you lower life forms. I'm pretty sure sharks pre-dated homo sapiens. Yep but they never evolved We don't need evolution. We have professional courtesy. Alright I am going to let you have this one as there is only one direction it can go from here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #34 February 1, 2013 Quote Alright I am going to let you have this one as there is only one direction it can go from here Are you saying you concede that sharks have courtesy, or . . .I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #35 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Is northern california still trying to seperate from southern california? I've always liked northern california,but have never cared for the southern part of the state. I like some things about texas government,but texas is to flat and dry for someone who likes 160ft evergreens and 10,000+ ft mountains.No offense meant to you texans. You have obviously never spent much time in Texas. Although we don't have any 10k mountains, we have some 7k mountains and the whole state is far from flat. It is an exceptionally diverse state in terms of people and geography. I've been fortunate enough to travel alot outside the States in my life. I always describe myself as American when asked. people from Texas when asked, always reply they are Texan. i have never met people who have so much pride in where they live. every Texan in my business seems like a representative for the Texas tourist board. There must be something to that. I think Texans are embarrassed to be Americans. Or maybe they don't truly consider themselves Americans. We don't necessarily like being lumped in with you lower life forms. I'm pretty sure sharks pre-dated homo sapiens. Yep but they never evolved We don't need evolution. We have professional courtesy. This coming from the state that casey anthony hails as home... What a fantastic accomplishment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 February 1, 2013 Quote Quote Alright I am going to let you have this one as there is only one direction it can go from here Are you saying you concede that sharks have courtesy, or . . . I am saying if I continued I might have gotten myself banned"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #37 February 1, 2013 Time poll on most conservative states in the US. 1. Alabama–50.6% conservative 2. North Dakota (tie)–48.6% 2. Wyoming (tie)–48.6% 4. Mississippi–48.2% 5. Utah–48.0% 6. Oklahoma–47.3% 7. Idaho–47.1% 8. Louisiana–45.6% 9. Nebraska (tie)–45.3% 9. Arkansas (tie)–45.5% Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/02/01/poll-alabama-most-conservative-state-in-the-union-massachusetts-most-liberal/#ixzz2JgWYpguE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #38 February 1, 2013 >most conservative states in the US. Interestingly, that's very close to the list of: States that get the most from the federal government by paying the least taxes States that have the most non-payers of federal taxes (due primarily to not working) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #39 February 2, 2013 QuoteQuoteIt's kinda like saying, "Hey, Saudi Arabia has tons of cash and no problem paying their bills, why can't the USA just do that?" So we can assume you have no idea how much oil is in the US? Good argument in concept, bad example to use though. I'd have gone the South Africa/Diamonds route maybe? All I know is what Wiki tells me, I am not an oil driller personally. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves 2 Saudi Arabia 265,405 - 267,017 13 United States 20,682 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bignugget 0 #40 February 2, 2013 QuoteHow many people in the US starve to death? A lot less than would starve to death without govt. assistance in times of need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #41 February 2, 2013 Quote Quote How many people in the US starve to death? A lot less than would starve to death without govt. assistance in times of need. Just for a few years. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arvoitus 1 #42 February 2, 2013 QuoteI thought california had some oil fields like around bakersfield,and they have the silicon valley along with tons of military bases and alot of agriculture as well. Oil production could explain a lot of the surplus I think. If you look at the production levels Texas has double from 2009 to 2012 where as California has been in a steady decline.Your rights end where my feelings begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #43 February 2, 2013 Quote>most conservative states in the US. Interestingly, that's very close to the list of: States that get the most from the federal government by paying the least taxes States that have the most non-payers of federal taxes (due primarily to not working) And states with the lowest educational attainment.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
