beowulf 1 #101 January 28, 2013 QuoteQuoteSo Dianne Feinstein hasn't proposed any legislation? Please provide a bill number. Are you saying there is no Dianne Feinstein bill in the works? Or that the President is lying when he says he supports a ban on high capacity magazines? Your comparison to Beenie Babies is not accurate. There are reasons for people to be worried about a possible ban and those reasons have been articulated by our president. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhaig 0 #102 January 28, 2013 QuoteQuoteSo Dianne Feinstein hasn't proposed any legislation? Please provide a bill number. semantics. You know what she's proposing. yes, it is speculation causing the price to rise. No, there has been no NATIONAL bill set forth to ban magazines over a certain size. You earlier said "there is no proposed legislation" you didn't state the scope of your declaration. So if you're going to be nit-picky, so will I.-- Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #103 January 28, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteSo Dianne Feinstein hasn't proposed any legislation? Please provide a bill number. Are you saying there is no Dianne Feinstein bill in the works? Or that the President is lying when he says he supports a ban on high capacity magazines? Your comparison to Beenie Babies is not accurate. There are reasons for people to be worried about a possible ban and those reasons have been articulated by our president. I'm saying it's premature to react with as much panic buying and selling as people have so far. There has not yet been a bill proposed. Even after one gets proposed, it will go through a huge amount of debate and haggling and in all likelihood will ultimately not pass. Even if it does pass it will almost assuredly go immediately to the Supreme Court. Speculators are preying on the fears of gun owners and whipping them into a spending frenzy for something that isn't even really a possibility yet. But of course, this is only the first wave. At every step along the way, they get to whip up even more panic and sell even more. Then, if something actually does pass, just like before, the manufacturers will find the right loopholes and make just the right changes so they can . . . sell you all new weapons that conform to the new spec. It's history.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #104 January 28, 2013 How do you think they would modify magazines that would allow them to still hold 30 rounds and yet conform to a high capacity magazine ban?? Your comparison to Beenie Babies is still wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #105 January 28, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote A friend told me he recently priced 30-round .223 magazines and they'd increased from $19 each in early December to $80 each in mid-January. I guess I'm good on those for awhile. 30 round magazines are the Beenie Babies of 2013. So the Government considered banning Beanie Babies too?? The only reason 30 round magazines are going up in price is because of the proposed legislation banning them. Otherwise they would be cheap. Nagative. So far there is no proposed legislation. The price increases are based on pure speculation of sellers and collectors, just like Beenie Babies. No proposed legislation???? So you are ignoring the bitch from CA's Senate bill?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #106 January 28, 2013 QuoteQuoteSo Dianne Feinstein hasn't proposed any legislation? Please provide a bill number. Your kidding right?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #107 January 28, 2013 http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/a-timeline-of-barack-obamas-positions-on-guns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #108 January 28, 2013 http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/politics/feinstein-bill-details/index.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #109 January 28, 2013 QuoteYour comparison to Beenie Babies is still wrong. Nope. Exactly the same thing. I think you just don't like being compared collectors of toys intended for children. I get that, but it's still exactly the same thing.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #110 January 28, 2013 http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=9a9270d5-ce4d-49fb-9b2f-69e69f517fb4 Is this good enough for you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #111 January 28, 2013 QuoteI'm saying it's premature to react with as much panic buying and selling as people have so far. actually, it's too late to react with intense buying. That would have been before the prices starting shooting up. NOW is the time for panic selling (profit taking) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #112 January 28, 2013 QuoteQuoteYour comparison to Beenie Babies is still wrong. Nope. Exactly the same thing. I think you just don't like being compared collectors of toys intended for children. I get that, but it's still exactly the same thing. I don't have a bunch of 30 round magazines. And no your comparison is not accurate. There is reason to believe that 30 round magazines will be banned. I hope they aren't and that no new bans on anything relating to guns are passed. Beanie Babies were collected for no good reason. There is a reason to buy up 30 round magazines because there are people in the government that want to and are trying to ban them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #113 January 28, 2013 Quote http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/a-timeline-of-barack-obamas-positions-on-guns Hell no It is the NRA Good link Thanks"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #114 January 28, 2013 Quotehttp://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=9a9270d5-ce4d-49fb-9b2f-69e69f517fb4 Is this good enough for you? I'm sorry, has that been proposed in the US Senate yet?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #115 January 28, 2013 I don't know if it was officially submitted yet. Her website says it was introduced. Not sure if that means it was proposed to the Senate. Either way, it is an effort to ban among other things 30 round magazines. Which destroys your comparison to Beeny Babies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #116 January 28, 2013 There are lots of really stupid bills introduced into Congress, or proposed. Maybe it has something to do with pandering to the electorate at home? Happens with conservative congresscritters, too. They don't target guns, but that doesn't mean they're not also stupid. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #117 January 28, 2013 Considering what the President has said it's not unreasonable to consider that a ban on high capacity magazines is likely. That is what is driving the crazy buying of magazines and guns. People are not going to wait for the Government to pass legislation before reacting. I don't think they are going to be able to pass much any time soon. But they will try and people do react. It's not due to anything the NRA has said or done, it's the politicians wanting to ban these things that are causing this uproar. The NRA couldn't do this by themselves and they are certainly not going to cooperate with people Dianne Feinstein or Obama to create this buying spree. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #118 January 28, 2013 Could the NRA be sending out material that makes sure people understand the threat? Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #119 January 28, 2013 QuoteCould the NRA be sending out material that makes sure people understand the threat? Wendy P. I wasn't before this but I am now a member of the NRA and they did send out an email with a link to a video of Wayne LaPierre's very public speech, but it's no more then we see in the news. Also some other emails asking for donations to fight the upcoming proposed bill by Dianne Feinstein. It's nothing special or arm bending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #120 January 28, 2013 QuoteI don't know if it was officially submitted yet. Her website says it was introduced. Not sure if that means it was proposed to the Senate. Either way, it is an effort to ban among other things 30 round magazines. Which destroys your comparison to Beeny Babies. He is playing the ass This was submitted last Thursday"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #121 January 29, 2013 Thanks, I thought it was, but I haven't kept track and couldn't find anything that specifically said it was submitted to the Senate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #122 January 29, 2013 QuoteQuoteI don't know if it was officially submitted yet. Her website says it was introduced. Not sure if that means it was proposed to the Senate. Either way, it is an effort to ban among other things 30 round magazines. Which destroys your comparison to Beeny Babies. He is playing the ass This was submitted last Thursday Oh! Thursday. That explains all the previous madness then, they clearly had access to some sort of crystal ball. So, you must mean S.150. Why didnt you say so. Can you link the actual text of that? It's not on Thomas yet.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #123 January 29, 2013 Quote I'm saying it's premature to react with as much panic buying and selling as people have so far. One thing I've learned in life is to act before it's to late. Quote There has not yet been a bill proposed. Written and submitted? No? Are you sure? Verbally proposed? Yes....unless the media is making it all up...come to think of it, that IS a possibility. Quote Speculators Liberals, Legislators and the media are preying on the fears of gun owners and whipping them into a spending frenzy for something that isn't even really a possibility yet. FIFY Quote Then, if something actually does pass, just like before, the manufacturers will find the right loopholes and make just the right changes so they can . . . sell you all new weapons that conform to the new spec. Of course! Would you expect any maker of any product to NOT do that? You say it like it's a bad thing.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #124 January 29, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't know if it was officially submitted yet. Her website says it was introduced. Not sure if that means it was proposed to the Senate. Either way, it is an effort to ban among other things 30 round magazines. Which destroys your comparison to Beeny Babies. He is playing the ass This was submitted last Thursday Hmm, you must mean S.150. Why didnt you say so. Can you link the actual text of that? It's not on Thomas yet. Awwwww Now you want to play cute Such a talent"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #125 January 29, 2013 You really think a crystal ball would be needed to predict this?? Seriously!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
