This Time the Laws and Constitution Win! Obama looses

[rushmc 23]

Court: Obama appointments are unconstitutional


http://news.yahoo.com/court-obama-appointments-unconstitutional-154915026.html

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 898]

You think being an "expert" in constitutional law would have helped....

[rushmc 23]

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You think being an "expert" in constitutional law would have helped....

Got nothing to do with me

But the judges did make a ruling now didnt they

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[lawrocket 3]

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if it stands, it means hundreds of decisions issued by the board over more than a year are invalid. It also would leave the five-member labor board with just one validly appointed member, effectively shutting it down.

And thus resulting in an additional miscarriage of justice. Decisions to play fast and loose with the rules have consequences beyond the initial decision.

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[rushmc 23]

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if it stands, it means hundreds of decisions issued by the board over more than a year are invalid. It also would leave the five-member labor board with just one validly appointed member, effectively shutting it down.

And thus resulting in an additional miscarriage of justice. Decisions to play fast and loose with the rules have consequences beyond the initial decision.

I just read an appeal is coming

To the SC i am guessing

How long will that take?

I am guessing they will refuse to hear it and let it stand (maybe hoping is a better word)

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[GeorgiaDon 380]

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Decisions to play fast and loose with the rules have consequences beyond the initial decision.

Which decisions to play fast and loose are you referring to? The decision to keep the senate "in session" with a sham campaign to have one senator come in every couple of days, gavel the session "open" and then close it 30 seconds later and go home (and yes I know that both sides have done this)? The decision to use "secret holds" to prevent a vote on a nominee, effectively blocking the ability of departments to function? Or the decision to treat the Senate as if it was in recess (which it was in effect if not in name) and proceed with the appointments?

Don

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[normiss 898]

Not sure about what this could ever possibly have to do with you...I was simply making the point the POTUS IS a constitutional law professor.

Yet he says things like this:
"When Congress refuses to act and as a result hurts our economy and puts people at risk, I have an obligation as president to do what I can without them," said the President in January 2012. "I will not stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people they were elected to serve.""

Uphold and defend my ass.

[rushmc 23]

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Not sure about what this could ever possibly have to do with you...I was simply making the point the POTUS IS a constitutional law professor.

Yet he says things like this:
"When Congress refuses to act and as a result hurts our economy and puts people at risk, I have an obligation as president to do what I can without them," said the President in January 2012. "I will not stand by while a minority in the Senate puts party ideology ahead of the people they were elected to serve.""

Uphold and defend my ass.

My bad
I misunderstood your post

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 898]

I suck at expressing myself.
A LOT.

[Andy9o8 2]

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Uphold and defend my ass.

I thought you had that covered.

[lawrocket 3]

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Which decisions to play fast and loose are you referring to? The decision to keep the senate "in session" with a sham campaign to have one senator come in every couple of days, gavel the session "open" and then close it 30 seconds later and go home (and yes I know that both sides have done this)? The decision to use "secret holds" to prevent a vote on a nominee, effectively blocking the ability of departments to function? Or the decision to treat the Senate as if it was in recess (which it was in effect if not in name) and proceed with the appointments?

Those are the rules. They have been used for a long time. As stated in the article, Democrats have done it, too. And something strange happened – previous Presidents realized that they had no choice and so did not do things like ignore the whole “advice and consent” of the Senate thing.

Yep. It’s action resulted in “effectively blocking” the ability of the departments to function. Then, apparently, the President found the Constitution to be an unnecessary legal barrier and ignored it.

The President decided that he’s da man and screw the Senate and the Constitution. He’ll do what he wants. And he did it and he shouldn’t have and now it’s a double mess. The Senate played fast and tight with the rules. Look at it as the Senate deciding to arbitrarily put stop signs every half mile on a deserted highway. Then somebody decides to say, “Fuck this” and runs through them and broadsides a bus.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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The President decided that he’s da man and screw the Senate and the Constitution. He’ll do what he wants.

I think that's a bit of an extreme descriptor for a level head. He engaged in slick parliamentary maneuvering, just as legislators and executives do at every level of government in this country, and every other democratic country. They made a calculation, they rolled the dice, and they lost. In my perfect hindsight, their legal analysis was shoddy; but whatever. But let's just keep this in proper perspective.

[lawrocket 3]

Most presidents do. So do legislatures. Hence we have a whole series of judicial review finding laws unconstitutional.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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Most presidents do. So do legislatures. Hence we have a whole series of judicial review finding laws unconstitutional.

Well now that descriptor I agree with.

[lawrocket 3]

Of course I have a problem with that. And since the current president is the one doing it, he's got the brunt of my wrath.

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[wayneflorida 0]

from article
"The three-judge panel, all appointed by Republican presidents, flatly rejected arguments from the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, which claimed the president has discretion to decide that the Senate is unavailable to perform its advice and consent function"

President Obama no doubt will dis these judges in the next State of the Union address.

[Andy9o8 2]

Actually, he pronounces his "th" just like a regular white man.

[wayneflorida 0]

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Actually, he pronounces his "th" just like a regular white man.

Of course he does.

[muff528 3]

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Actually, he pronounces his "th" just like a regular white man.

Well, then he would be mispronouncing it. "Dis" is short for disrespect or maybe disregard.

[Andy9o8 2]

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"Dis" is short for disrespect or maybe disregard.

You don't say.

[muff528 3]

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"Dis" is short for disrespect or maybe disregard.

You don't say.

Sorry. I was only trying to give you the benefit of the doubt in your not knowing the definition of "dis". I really was trying to not misinterpret your comment as an attempt at race-baiting. On the other hand, you could have, for some unknown other reason, only been informing us how Obama pronounces "th".

[Andy9o8 2]

True dat.