rushmc 23 #1 January 10, 2013 ...since Sandy Hook Gotta than the Dems and their threats to gun ownership for this"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #2 January 10, 2013 100,001 My dad bought me a lifetime membership for 300 bucks last week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 January 10, 2013 Quote100,001 My dad bought me a lifetime membership for 300 bucks last week. I uped mine to lifetime too"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OHCHUTE 0 #4 January 10, 2013 Since NRA supports many campaigns, I doubt seriously NRA will face much push back. It's all about money, campaign finance. I'm waiting to see any word from BIDEN/ NRA meeting today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #5 January 10, 2013 QuoteSince NRA supports many campaigns, I doubt seriously NRA will face much push back. It's all about money, campaign finance. I'm waiting to see any word from BIDEN/ NRA meeting today. I had forgetten about that I sure both sides will have some spin on it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #6 January 10, 2013 If you have a family member that is a lifetime member they can buy you a lifetime membership for this month only for 300. Which is normally 1000 dollars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #7 January 10, 2013 >NRA has 100,000 more members.....since Sandy Hook Yep, they have made excellent use of it. Between that and the "Obama will grab your guns" meme they have greatly enriched the industry they represent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #8 January 10, 2013 "Never waste a good crisis"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 January 10, 2013 Quote>NRA has 100,000 more members.....since Sandy Hook Yep, they have made excellent use of it. Between that and the "Obama will grab your guns" meme they have greatly enriched the industry they represent. Yep, Obama has been responsible for more gun sales and NRA Memberships than LaPierre could have imagined in his wildest dreams. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 January 11, 2013 Quote "Never waste a good crisis" Yep Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #11 January 11, 2013 >Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh ============ NRA, Wayne LaPierre Continue To See Backlash For Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Comments Posted: December 22, 2012 The NRA is still facing stinging criticism for remarks this week on the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, with a growing number of groups and individuals condemning a proposal to have armed police officers in schools. In the first public statement since shutting down social media in the wake of last Friday’s school shooting, NRA leader Wayne LaPierre blamed gun violence on everything from video games to the media. As USA Today, the NRA also proposed a “model school shield program” that placed armed guards at schools rather than going after stricter gun control measures. In the wake of those statements, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA immediately came under harsh criticism from individuals and groups who saw the comments as tone deaf. That criticism has not waned yet. The New York Daily News tore into the NRA on Saturday for the gun lobby’s press conference, calling LaPierre the “craziest man on earth.” Even the conservative New York Post criticized the NRA, calling LaPierre a “gun nut” and “NRA loon” on its cover Rupert Murdoch, owner of the New York Post and Fox News, even seemed on board with stricter gun control, bucking the NRA. “Terrible news today,” he tweeted. “When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons? As in Oz after similar tragedy.” The NRA and Wayne LaPierre had already come under fire from Newtown residents and teachers groups. The American Federation of Teachers called the suggestion “irresponsible and dangerous,” and the National Education Association said it was “shocking.” ================================ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 January 11, 2013 Quote >Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh ============ NRA, Wayne LaPierre Continue To See Backlash For Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Comments Posted: December 22, 2012 The NRA is still facing stinging criticism for remarks this week on the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, with a growing number of groups and individuals condemning a proposal to have armed police officers in schools. In the first public statement since shutting down social media in the wake of last Friday’s school shooting, NRA leader Wayne LaPierre blamed gun violence on everything from video games to the media. As USA Today, the NRA also proposed a “model school shield program” that placed armed guards at schools rather than going after stricter gun control measures. In the wake of those statements, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA immediately came under harsh criticism from individuals and groups who saw the comments as tone deaf. That criticism has not waned yet. The New York Daily News tore into the NRA on Saturday for the gun lobby’s press conference, calling LaPierre the “craziest man on earth.” Even the conservative New York Post criticized the NRA, calling LaPierre a “gun nut” and “NRA loon” on its cover Rupert Murdoch, owner of the New York Post and Fox News, even seemed on board with stricter gun control, bucking the NRA. “Terrible news today,” he tweeted. “When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons? As in Oz after similar tragedy.” The NRA and Wayne LaPierre had already come under fire from Newtown residents and teachers groups. The American Federation of Teachers called the suggestion “irresponsible and dangerous,” and the National Education Association said it was “shocking.” ================================ Ah so cute No links no attribution One out of what, a 100 stories that state how that community wants armed protection? Nice try thanks for playing You and Andy working together?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #13 January 11, 2013 QuoteQuote "Never waste a good crisis" Yep Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh The NRA has opposed seemingly common sense measures like barring individuals on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons. Interestingly, conservative pollster Frank Luntz found that clear majorities of NRA members are more reasonable about implementing such common sense measures than their more rigidly ideological parent organization. For example, 71% of NRA members would bar people on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons, according to a poll Luntz conducted for the Bloomberg-backed group Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Likewise, 79% of NRA members support requiring background checks on gun retail employees, 74% would support background checks on all potential gun buyers and 64% support requiring gun owners to report lost or stolen firearms. The NRA itself has changed since the conservative movement coalesced to take over the previously sportsman-focused organization. In the 1930s, the NRA supported the U.S. ban on machine guns, which still stands. Likewise, the NRA backed the 1968 Gun Control Law passed by President Johnson after the assassinations of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Bobby Kennedy. "Today's NRA is not that of our grandfathers," said Gerney. "Unfortunately, the leadership of the NRA has turned the organization into an obstacle, rather than the partner of decades ago, in the effort to pass smart laws to keep guns away from dangerous people."... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #14 January 11, 2013 QuoteQuoteIf you have a family member that is a lifetime member they can buy you a lifetime membership for this month only for 300. Which is normally 1000 dollars. Ah, I see. So are their any lifetimers out there that can sponsor/refer me? +1 I let my membership expire. Time to renew. Lifetime would be convenient. Guess I'll call my dad and see if his membership is lifetime.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 January 11, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuote "Never waste a good crisis" Yep Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh The NRA has opposed seemingly common sense measures like barring individuals on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons. Interestingly, conservative pollster Frank Luntz found that clear majorities of NRA members are more reasonable about implementing such common sense measures than their more rigidly ideological parent organization. For example, 71% of NRA members would bar people on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons, according to a poll Luntz conducted for the Bloomberg-backed group Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Likewise, 79% of NRA members support requiring background checks on gun retail employees, 74% would support background checks on all potential gun buyers and 64% support requiring gun owners to report lost or stolen firearms. The NRA itself has changed since the conservative movement coalesced to take over the previously sportsman-focused organization. In the 1930s, the NRA supported the U.S. ban on machine guns, which still stands. Likewise, the NRA backed the 1968 Gun Control Law passed by President Johnson after the assassinations of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Bobby Kennedy. "Today's NRA is not that of our grandfathers," said Gerney. "Unfortunately, the leadership of the NRA has turned the organization into an obstacle, rather than the partner of decades ago, in the effort to pass smart laws to keep guns away from dangerous people." Oh please John It is only an obstacle to those like you who would ban nearly all people from owning guns and you do not post your source either Hypocritical when examining your past dont you think?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #16 January 11, 2013 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote "Never waste a good crisis" Yep Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh The NRA has opposed seemingly common sense measures like barring individuals on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons. Interestingly, conservative pollster Frank Luntz found that clear majorities of NRA members are more reasonable about implementing such common sense measures than their more rigidly ideological parent organization. For example, 71% of NRA members would bar people on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons, according to a poll Luntz conducted for the Bloomberg-backed group Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Likewise, 79% of NRA members support requiring background checks on gun retail employees, 74% would support background checks on all potential gun buyers and 64% support requiring gun owners to report lost or stolen firearms. The NRA itself has changed since the conservative movement coalesced to take over the previously sportsman-focused organization. In the 1930s, the NRA supported the U.S. ban on machine guns, which still stands. Likewise, the NRA backed the 1968 Gun Control Law passed by President Johnson after the assassinations of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Bobby Kennedy. "Today's NRA is not that of our grandfathers," said Gerney. "Unfortunately, the leadership of the NRA has turned the organization into an obstacle, rather than the partner of decades ago, in the effort to pass smart laws to keep guns away from dangerous people." Oh please John It is only an obstacle to those like you who would ban nearly all people from owning guns and you do not post your source either Hypocritical when examining your past dont you think? You equate "dangerous people" with "all people". I guess you are just projecting again.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 January 11, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "Never waste a good crisis" Yep Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh The NRA has opposed seemingly common sense measures like barring individuals on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons. Interestingly, conservative pollster Frank Luntz found that clear majorities of NRA members are more reasonable about implementing such common sense measures than their more rigidly ideological parent organization. For example, 71% of NRA members would bar people on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons, according to a poll Luntz conducted for the Bloomberg-backed group Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Likewise, 79% of NRA members support requiring background checks on gun retail employees, 74% would support background checks on all potential gun buyers and 64% support requiring gun owners to report lost or stolen firearms. The NRA itself has changed since the conservative movement coalesced to take over the previously sportsman-focused organization. In the 1930s, the NRA supported the U.S. ban on machine guns, which still stands. Likewise, the NRA backed the 1968 Gun Control Law passed by President Johnson after the assassinations of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Bobby Kennedy. "Today's NRA is not that of our grandfathers," said Gerney. "Unfortunately, the leadership of the NRA has turned the organization into an obstacle, rather than the partner of decades ago, in the effort to pass smart laws to keep guns away from dangerous people." Oh please John It is only an obstacle to those like you who would ban nearly all people from owning guns and you do not post your source either Hypocritical when examining your past dont you think? You equate "dangerous people" with "all people". I guess you are just projecting again. As I said hypocritical"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #18 January 12, 2013 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote "Never waste a good crisis" Yep Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh The NRA has opposed seemingly common sense measures like barring individuals on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons. Interestingly, conservative pollster Frank Luntz found that clear majorities of NRA members are more reasonable about implementing such common sense measures than their more rigidly ideological parent organization. For example, 71% of NRA members would bar people on the FBI terrorist watch list from buying and owning weapons, according to a poll Luntz conducted for the Bloomberg-backed group Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Likewise, 79% of NRA members support requiring background checks on gun retail employees, 74% would support background checks on all potential gun buyers and 64% support requiring gun owners to report lost or stolen firearms. The NRA itself has changed since the conservative movement coalesced to take over the previously sportsman-focused organization. In the 1930s, the NRA supported the U.S. ban on machine guns, which still stands. Likewise, the NRA backed the 1968 Gun Control Law passed by President Johnson after the assassinations of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Bobby Kennedy. "Today's NRA is not that of our grandfathers," said Gerney. "Unfortunately, the leadership of the NRA has turned the organization into an obstacle, rather than the partner of decades ago, in the effort to pass smart laws to keep guns away from dangerous people." Oh please John It is only an obstacle to those like you who would ban nearly all people from owning guns and you do not post your source either Hypocritical when examining your past dont you think? You equate "dangerous people" with "all people". I guess you are just projecting again. As I said hypocritical You are projecting yet again.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #19 January 12, 2013 Quote >Dems created one that is looking to backfire on them huh ============ NRA, Wayne LaPierre Continue To See Backlash For Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting Comments Posted: December 22, 2012 The NRA is still facing stinging criticism for remarks this week on the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, with a growing number of groups and individuals condemning a proposal to have armed police officers in schools. In the first public statement since shutting down social media in the wake of last Friday’s school shooting, NRA leader Wayne LaPierre blamed gun violence on everything from video games to the media. As USA Today, the NRA also proposed a “model school shield program” that placed armed guards at schools rather than going after stricter gun control measures. In the wake of those statements, Wayne LaPierre and the NRA immediately came under harsh criticism from individuals and groups who saw the comments as tone deaf. That criticism has not waned yet. The New York Daily News tore into the NRA on Saturday for the gun lobby’s press conference, calling LaPierre the “craziest man on earth.” Even the conservative New York Post criticized the NRA, calling LaPierre a “gun nut” and “NRA loon” on its cover Rupert Murdoch, owner of the New York Post and Fox News, even seemed on board with stricter gun control, bucking the NRA. “Terrible news today,” he tweeted. “When will politicians find courage to ban automatic weapons? As in Oz after similar tragedy.” The NRA and Wayne LaPierre had already come under fire from Newtown residents and teachers groups. The American Federation of Teachers called the suggestion “irresponsible and dangerous,” and the National Education Association said it was “shocking.” ================================ personally I don't see anything wrong with the idea... Gun control advocates all but called the U.S. National Rifle Association insane Friday for proposing putting armed police officers into every school in America in the wake of the Newtown, Connecticut, school shooting, in which 20 children and six adults died. Some even blamed the NRA for causing the massacre. And yet no one in Toronto thought it was insane to put armed police officers into dozens of city high schools in the wake of the fatal shooting of Jordan Manners at C.W. Jefferys collegiate in 2007. Sure, they were called “school resource officers,” and Chief Bill Blair and the school boards emphasized their role was to build relationships with students based on mutual trust, in order to reduce gun crime and other forms of violence. But let’s not kid the troops. “School resource officers” weren’t, and aren’t, social workers. They’re armed cops, and, as the NRA rightly noted, one of the ways we ensure our political leaders are safe is to surround them with armed guards. So the idea of protecting people by putting police officers among them is hardly a new or radical one, in either the U.S. or Canada.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #20 January 13, 2013 Quoteas the NRA rightly noted, one of the ways we ensure our political leaders are safe is to surround them with armed guards. And I pity a country where the only way you can feel safe is if everyone has armed guards or is armed themselves. Fortunately, outside Speakers Corner I am well aware that a huge percentage of people in the US are pretty well balanced and do not feel that way.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #21 January 13, 2013 QuoteQuoteas the NRA rightly noted, one of the ways we ensure our political leaders are safe is to surround them with armed guards. And I pity a country where the only way you can feel safe is if everyone has armed guards or is armed themselves. Fortunately, outside Speakers Corner I am well aware that a huge percentage of people in the US are pretty well balanced and do not feel that way. your pity, along with a bus token, might get you downtown...If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites